Why Chinese is an important language By KyleChin6
Chinese is an important language to learn. In the United States, we do a lot of trade deals with China. It would be important to know Chinese so you can translate, and you might have a higher chance of being hired. Same with other jobs; you have a higher chance of being hired with a second language, particularly Chinese.
i agree i also would think being bilingual in Spanish and Arabic would also be beneficial. since a good chunk of the world either speaks Spanish, Arabic, Chinese, or languages relative to India (mostly Hindi) and Russian.
Totally agree. China is every day more important for the whole world and today is the 2nd economy. Most experts agree that by 20 or 30 years in the future, they will be the 1st economy, surpasing even USA.
Anyway, i'm from South America, so, from the same reasons you have said, i want to learn both english and chinese. More chances for jobs, more people and cultures to know, and of course, for the fun of learning new things. :)
Let's support each other learning this exotic (for us as americans) language!
Yea but i have been learning chinese and a bunch of other languages and i don't get to use chinese as much as a lot of smaller european languages most chinese people are not allowed to use many websites i use so i don't see them as much online.
I am a Chinese, if you want to learn Chinese further, I think maybe I can help you.
Hi. Yes. I'm wondering too... I have begun the Chinese course, by curiosity and because it's fun. And right now I just have tried the MEMRISE course (corrected, is wrote "memorize" at first instead): I like a lot the voices, as for German which I study since months on Duolingo.
I'm wondering : Knowing that actually real Chinese learning means a pretty long commitment, how do you think I will be able to embed the language in my life?
I mean that theoretically I would never commit myself in learning a language that I won't use on an almost daily basis. I would consider it as a huge lost of time.
I easily and very beneficially embedded English in my life, thanks to the Internet and my PC, with News, movies, e-books ( i have a Kobo e-reader), forums, conversations with people in real life. And some nice TV programs too (BBC News).
German : There's very interesting German TV programs. News, documentaries. I plan to go to Germany too.
What about Mandarin ? No interesting and accessible TV I guess? For sure I could try to befriend with Chinese people in Paris. But through my computer, for learning and for the long winter evenings of 2019-2020? What do you think about that? I'm not working in international business. I don't necessarily plan to travel to China. I like to learn languages. it's kind of a fun hobby for me. the music of the language attracts me in some ways... :-)
If you really want to talk with real chinese people, the best way is to use Weibo, Wechat or Youku. There's so many chinese people that you can eventually get tired lol.
If you are not that advance (as me), there's some good youtube channels out there that would help you a lot to understand real spoken mandarin.
Reciently, a user has recommend "Mandarin Corner", and is excellent. It's nos just useful to lear the basics, but also have a lot of intresting videos on full chinese, with pinyin and hanzi subtitles, specially designed to get acustomed an recognize words in real life, while you get a fun time knowing about chinese culture, opinon, actuality, and so on.
I strongly recommend both ways, that's how i (kind of) learned english. :) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2fAiRQHRQT9aj9P_ijYeow
Thanks for these good infos
I've listened to the beginning of the video : lovely!!!!
Never watch Chinese youtube channels when you are hungry, 50% of them have to do with food and culture (more food). You can talk to me? I'm a native?
There is still a lot of good Chinese content available on the internet but not as much as in many smaller languages like german or Russian but still way more than something like dutch or Greek.
You can talk with me anytime you want, Chinese is my native language.
Thank you. I'm just discovering it now. I really start from scratch; so I can't talk about a serious commitment for the moment. I'm thinking about it, and discovering the thing
I'm mainly committed and focused on German for the moment
By curiosity, are you learning Spanish because you are living in Spain or in south America? (I 'm bilingual Spanish - French)
Chinese is also my mother tongue and I also am glad to help Chinese learners~ www
BTW it's so cool that you should be bilingual in Spanish and French! Are you from an international family?
My parents were immigrated Spaniards in France in the 1960s. They only spoke spanish at home. I had to learn French when I was 3 years old at school. (I'm more 50 y.o. now)
Foreigner learn Chinese for Chinese things. Chinese adult learn foreign language to travel or live in another country. Chinese students learn English for test. (It is true , better test score,better school)
I once heard that Chinese is the second most spoken language on earth. That seems a pretty good argument. For me it's mostly just that I'm interested because it's so different from western languages.
(btw, you don't have to say "By [name]", DL adds your name to your post automatically)
i had so many people in my school who were Hispanic FAIL Spanish class that they chose to take.
My high school Spanish teacher told me that learning Spanish at school and learning it at home is different. In school, you learn the grammar, the conjugations, and all the details you wouldn't really learn when speaking with your parents. Parents also teach slang and shortcuts that one would not learn at school. Hispanics fail Spanish classes because they aren't familiar with the grammar and specificity of the curriculum.
I've heard that Spanish class can also be very different depending on where your teacher came from. It appeared that in different countries used different vocabs to express the same thing, making it difficult. A lot of my Spanish friends have parents that are illiterate, so they can't read or write at all.
I'm over 50, I'm French-Spanish. In high school at the time, we had a few hours of English classes each week, during 5 years.
We were ALL UNFIT to speak English! It was like that for everyone.
(I seriously tackled the issue 6 years ago, and may needed about 2 years to feel comfortable in English. I read, write, speak fluently English, today)
It was just mission impossible! Learning a language requires serious daily dedication and implication, and there were not the wonderful tools we have today. Internet changes everything.
I would say that at school we have kind of a boring initiation and theory learning, and that rest had to be done by us out of the school. The unbelievable number of people who are unable to speak English after years of supposed "English courses" is (or was, I don't know) just delirious, in France. it's or it was the norm for everybody I'd say in France some time ago.
Someone has said something like "You can learn a language, you can not teach a language".
I agree with that. The teachers don't like that sentence of course. There's good teachers, I don't deny it. But how do want to speak English in a classroom of 25-30 pupils "Mission impossible".
It IS the world's most spoken language with over a billion speakers last time I checked.
I totally agree. My parents are going to kill me if I don't keep up with my friends back in China.
When I was younger, I hated learning Chinese and never realized how useful it is. It wasn't until I went to Taiwan a few years ago that I realized how much I should be grateful to my parents for forcing me to speak this language.
China is such a huge market now, even more than before. China is now the 2nd biggest movie box office in the world and is quickly overtaking the US/Canada. As a casual moviegoer (but a HUGE Marvel fan), it sparked something in me that this language is useful after all. Marvel is incredibly popular in China, with almost all movies showing in China and even hosts premieres with cast members in China.
Several reasons: 1. There's a lot of Chinese, in and around the world. 2. Chinese people love to talk to other Chinese in Chinese, making it an inner circle. 3. Chinese people can't speak 5 other languages like Europeans do. Chinese spend most of the language skill learning Mandarin (or Cantonese) and the other 10 (?) most common different region dialects to travel around China. 4. Chinese people really emphasis on being "our own people", so being in the "Chinese circle" grant you extra resources (including in the business world). 5. Chinese laws and business rules are only written in Chinese, if you want to do business in mainland China, you must be able to speak, read, and write in Chinese to gain access. Reading the English version typically get you no where.
Well...as a Chinese I can say that actually most of us spend a really lot of time to study English at school and English lessones weigh heavy in Chinese schools, but taking exams is the main purpose instead of communicating...so many of us are bad at oral English so that we are just kinda shy to express our feelings in English. But if there is a chance for us to communicate with foreign cultures, we are definitely willing to. The "our own people" circle is not as hard as you might think. And actually, when we are abroad, we can also feel hard to blend in other circles, so I guess it's not a Chinese thing, it's just a matter of familiarity~ :)
Are Chinese people culturally rather open or rather closed to westerners? I'm afraid that the Chinese culture contains some bad ideas about western people, because it's a little what I did experimented around me in Paris (20 - 25 years ago, that said). To be honest it slows down a little my enthusiasm. but yes I'd love to discover this beautiful and different language.
I may be have bad biases, myself. I don't know. Excuse me if I am a little direct :-) I don't want to insult anybody.
It's kind of a feeling I had, in front of attitudes of some Chinese people towards me. I had been working literally surrounded by Chinese people 25 year ago :-)
Yesterday, I ate something in a little Chinese 'restaurant'. I said good evening to the grand parents of the family who were eating at one of the tables. They didn't answered anything to me, they didn't look at me. On the other hand the owners of the restaurant say hello and goodbye all the time but all that sounds extremely false, as usual. :-) That's the kind of behaviors that makes me feel uncomfortable :-)
Sorry if I'm direct, I don't want to offense anybody. I'm also the son of immigrated people, and I can ensure you that I heard many times about the "stupid French people customs and behaviors" when I was a Child :-)
To be an immigrated - and to be the son of immigrated people - is not a so simple, obviously. :-)
In fact, Chinese people are not very enthusiastic about people they are not familiar with, which is a reflection of cultural differences. Chinese thought is more and more open at present. As far as I know, China has no malice towards the west. On the contrary, there are some inherent thoughts and malice on the mainstream western websites.
I believe what I see, what I experiment in real life. I 'll try to not have too many biases.
(There was no malice in what I said by the way)
Well, as a Chinese, I'm with yVJs6 on this one. You see, it's not that we don't want to be more open, I know I do, it's just most of us are the slow type. Take me for example, sometimes I really really want to get close to somebody quickly on the inside, but on the outside it looks like I'm a cool guy. Is it about the culture or something else? Honestly I have no idea. But hey, just so you know, you're welcomed in China.
Well, I won't say we are very open, but we are not very close either. Most of the time people just mind their own business, or maybe they don't felt that they know about your culture enough to be open. If you look at it the other way, don't you sometimes find it odd if a stranger just approach you and say "Hi!"? In America (NYC) and China, that's a sign that they might want something from you (like something bad). Also, a lot of Chinese prefer to keep it to themselves, according to old teaching, don't look / talk / listen to others unless you have to, so I think we are doing exactly that. I won't say it's just Chinese, every culture (actually, human beings) do the same thing?
I believe that the Chinese are very open given proper circumstances. I think as an American if I'm in a restaurant eating and some stranger comes up to me and says hello. I wouldn't say anything either. I think you can find really good language partners for practicing Mandarin on WeChat/HelloTalk/Zhihu. I don't know about the communities in Paris but I'm sure that there are Chinese Communities there. If you make a friend and start hanging out, your Chinese will get better because if they feel comfortable enough around you they will not use English or French lol. Also, I usually find that the Chinese are more open to speaking to you if you know a little Chinese. If I see someone using WeChat or reading in Chinese, I would usually say something like 你读什么？你有微信吗？ What are you reading? Do you have WeChat? This usually transitions to them either chuckling then ignoring me or we start talking and exchange WeChats for us to talk later. It is usually the latter instead of the former. I wish you luck on your learning journey. Add Oil ;) 加油！
Hi guys. In Spain, when you go somewhere if you do not say hi to people, it's you who is not normal. people answer in return. It's a normal thing, and nobody expects anything in return. Maybe this is no longer true in big cities, I do not know.
In Paris area it's different. Although many people say also hello by entering the laundry for example, and people answer. It's a question of politeness. In Spain and in France.
That said I think that thinking "the Chinese" are like this or that, is a mistake anyway.
The same as some Chinese people say "the French" are like this or like that. I think we must try not to fall too much into this kind of trap, which is human and widespread. there are probably all kinds of people in any community. even though I guess that a language usually carries a culture with models of thinking, of behaving, and so on.
For the moment I am approaching this language. I 'm attracted to these mysterious and different sounds from those which I ma familiar to.
From there to say I learn Mandarin Chinese , I'm not there yet. A few words and sentences for the moment
I discover with surprise and it's really fun !
it can become more serious maybe. I know me and it could happen. But then I'll be finished! :-) hours, months, years learning ... I'm not sure to feel like it at the moment :-)
It's the same on Brazil, there are many chinese people, spanish, arabic and others here. I believe that China it's a high potencial for trade and global market.
I also want to add the fact that China's population is quite high, and a lot of China speaks Mandarin Chinese (China's official language) so it would help a lot.