https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Just completed the German Tree. All level 5 , all gold.....for now

It's taken nearly two years but today I finished the German tree all to level 5 and all gold, at the moment. I initially started with Duo to try to learn a few basic phrases for a proposed trip that never happened.

I'm not sure if I'll continue now, no real need, although some sort of 'Stockholm Syndrome' may kick in and make me come back to try to keep things gold.

I've enjoyed it overall despite it being a chore at times, being held hostage to complete each day even if I'm busy and using a few 'Streak Freezes' along the way.

Many will have done this much faster than me but I just thought I'd post this here for people who understand, as I'm sure if I mention it to my work colleagues I'll just get a blank look.

February 27, 2019

109 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mwbrand1

Gut gemacht! Mit Videos und Büchern kannst du noch Deutsch lernen.

February 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

With all the comments I've been giving Duo a second thought. I have started the reverse tree and will continue with that and other sources .

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mwbrand1

Ich mag den umgekehrten Baum und finde ihn hilfreich. Genießen!

March 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Judy_Blue_Eyes

Congratulations

February 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Thank you, I wasn't expecting the response I've had.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/m52011

Fantastisch. I am at about 430 crowns now and will compete by year end. This has become my hobby now. I listen to Peppa Pig and Sesam Straße as well as herr Antrim.

February 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrauSchock

Herr Antrim has amazing videos! I play them for my students to reinforce grammar that I just taught! I'm a huge fan of his!!

February 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Thanks. I've seen other refers to Peppa Pig but will have a look at Herr Antrim who is new to me.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Firestartergold

Hold on, Peppa Pig helps you learn German? I know like if you watch a show in German and are familiar with the context, it helps but I find it hilarious your using Peppa Pig. Whatever works though I guess. (No Offence)

March 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AdamKean

Congrats!
Not to put you off from coming back at a later date, but I don't believe the tree fades like it used to. Since I got everything gold to level 5 I haven't had anything jump back.

So, you can probably change "for now" to "for good" :P

February 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnnieMod

Not in Duo directly.

But if you go to Duome: https://duome.eu/AdamKean/progress - you will see the old decay mechanism (now in percentages instead of the old bars).

February 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AdamKean

Thanks, Annie!

That gives me something else to aim for! :D

February 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnnieMod

:) If you want another challenge - try the reverse tree - learn English from German. It has some interesting words you had not seen before and you need to think in German from the beginning :)

February 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrauSchock

I did this recently and it was awesome! I saw grammar that I hadn't seen before and it made me think about German in another way. Great suggestion!

February 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AdamKean

Thanks again, Annie!
I've been wrestling with the idea of doing the reverse tree for the last two years or so (maybe longer :O), but now the majority of my German learning (the vast majority I should say :P) is done outside Duo, so that's the reason for my hesitation.
But that's no reason to not give it a go! :D

February 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnnieMod

Well, if you are around anyway, think of it as extra practice :) You may want to turn off your mike and speaker while working on that tree - they ask you to do things in English - but because it is a reverse tree, it asks you to write in German a lot as early as level 0 and 1. And its German is not as restricted - not advanced but as the restrictions are on the English side, it get to more German constructs.

February 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AdamKean

Alright, I'll give it a go and see how I get on :P

Wish me luck!

Edit

Well, I won't say no to the 2500xp I just got from the Einstufungstest! :P

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Someone had mentioned the reverse tree to me previously and this morning I took my first steps :-)

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Despite doing this for a couple of years nearly your answer made me aware of 'Duome'. Wasn't aware that existed.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Thanks, doubtless at some time I'll come back and revisit the German tree.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HappyEvilSlosh

I believe that in the current system once a skill is gold it will never ungolden.

February 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RHgQ5wlQ

I think you should have a diploma for persevering and meeting your goal. Congratulations!

February 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

I think there was a certificate to print for completing the tree initially but nothing appeared to happen when I completed the level 5 stuff>

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Seattle_Scott

Congrats! I'm hoping to finish mine by the end of the year, which will make 3 years to finish it.

February 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Keep going. It is worth the effort. I've seen people say they've done it in a few months and people say a few years. I know from my age things don't stick like they used to and it feels sometimes that as new stuff comes in it pushes the older stuff out :-)

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/malrod

Congrats! I'm just starting on my German tree. I have a long way to go.

February 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mrs_Midnight

Ditto.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Elizabethd511651

I also finished the German tree and got my certificate on Wednesday. I enjoyed every class. I am Afrikaans and English is my second language. Go for it!!!

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gottogetout

Hello. interesting. congratulations.

One can see on a map, on this site that a lot of Namibian study German on DL. But curiously not a lot of South Africans. I have just read what is an Afrikaner. Roots in Netherlands, Germany, Scandinavia. You helped me to fulfill a gap, thanks.
The Wiki page ( in French) for "Afrikaner" says :
"An Afrikaner is a white South African of Dutch, French or German or Scandinavian origin, which originated in the language of the Dutch of the seventeenth century: Afrikaans"

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Elizabethd511651

Thank you....... Danke Schön........Baie dankie.

March 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Thank you. Your English is far better than my German.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Keep going, it seems like it'll take forever at times but you'll get there.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/wpdls

Congrats, the German tree is one of the best imo. (though I haven't finished it, I liked the format.)

February 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Tedee15

What is a German tree?

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

The German tree is the 'tree structure' of the the language course as it is shown on the screen.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Tedee15

I don't still know what that is. Is it those circle things that you have to touch to complete.

March 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AdamKean

Yes, Mike's post is about getting all of his circle things golden (to level 5), which is called a golden tree—because if you look at all the circle things together, they kind of look like a tree.

March 3, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Thank you. I've only done German in any depth so far so I have nothing to compare it to, a lot of people mentioned it was a good one to do.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Tink629986

Heh. Guess that's one of the downsides of gamification; people have "achieved their goal" and see no reason to keep at it ;) ... Take if from someone who has all but "lost" two languages (Latin and classical Greek) by not using them - keeping at it is important.

February 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Yes, I think that was partly what I was meaning when I said chore and 'need' was probably the wrong word to use regarding learning it in the first place. The gamification/chore aspect was the lack of option at the end of a long day to leave it until the following day as I would have the option of with a more conventional language learning method. I shall continue and my trip that was cancelled nearly two years ago is now, as of today, being planned for a few months time, partly thanks to a few of the comments here.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Vetkent

Vielen Dank für Ihren Beitrag, ich bin auch auf der Suche nach einem goldenen Ende. Ich möchte nur dazu sagen, dass das Studium einer Sprache ein Ziel hat, aber kein wirkliches Ende. Das Lernen einer Sprache hat viele Schritte, die man nicht zu einem Endpunkt bringt. Die Schritte bringen man nur das Ziel näher. Ich wünsche Ihnen eine „Gute Reise“ mit vielen schönen Schritte aber kein Ende.

February 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Thank you, while I've learnt a lot from Duo I'm far from confident with my German as my comments belie.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Samah686772

Congratulations. Well done.

February 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Thank you.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hero5owls

Gut gemacht! Ich hole schnell nach!

February 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

You seem to be doing quite well with your other languages.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Susan242221

Fantastisch!!! Gratulation!!!

February 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Thank you

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DanielKost8

What do you mean by "To keep things gold"?

February 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnnieMod

Under the old pre-crown system, a skill decayed with time - even the ones that were gold. With the crown systems, this is not the case anymore on the site - if you get a crown, you are done with lessons in that level until the tree is updated (although you can still practice of course) . But you still can use duome to look at the old decay numbers :)

February 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Tedee15

What is a German tree?

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gottogetout

"tree" refers to the "tree structure" the lessons are located.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

When you completed a level and made it 'gold' over time, if you didn't practice those 'specifics' you would lose the gold 'status' of that topic and you'd have to practice it again to bring it back to gold. From what others have said here that no longer happens on the main tree but if you go to Duome and look up your username the percentages can still be seen as they fall

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lorel90

Congrats!!!

February 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Thank you

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SynthRapt

That is inspiring! I'm new to playing on Duolingo. I have barely passed the first checkpoint, and I'm already trying to watch Netflix in German too. It's interesting because I have noticed German Subtitles mismatching German Audio. I wonder if that is common.

February 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnnieMod

It's interesting because I have noticed German Subtitles mismatching German Audio. I wonder if that is common.

Pretty normal - subtitles need to fit 2 lines and stay on the screen long enough; voice over or audio as a whole fits differently. Close captioning is usually closer to the audio than subtitles are -- but even it won't be 100%.

February 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Thanks. Keep going especially if you're doing extra, it will all help.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EL5tEL

Congrats! Impressive. The forum is a great place to share your accomplishments.. Outsiders have no idea how much work goes into finishing a tree to level five. Hopefully you'll make it to Germany some day soon.

February 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Thanks. As of today my trip is back on for a few months time :-)

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ccswain1311

I just started on mine but I'm determined to finish!

February 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

It'll seem endless at time but it's a good learning tool and worth sticking with.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Todd50

Great job! The 'Stockholm Syndrome' comment was hilarious. I think I have a bit of it myself with Duolingo. I think I am 1/3 way done to completing all the crowns.

February 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Good luck, hope you enjoy it. Duo's a good tool with a supportive community.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/compsognathus

Wonderful job!! That's a fantastic achievement; you should be proud!

February 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Thank you.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DeborahLes7

Congrats Mike! I am plugging along on a daily basis, and have reached Questions 3. The negatives and conjunctions were very difficult!! Thanks for posting!

February 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Thank you. You will get there, it's just a day at a time.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slamRN

Okay, jetzt schreibst du alle deine Kommentare auf Deutsch.

February 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

I don't think I'm at that point yet. Having got to this stage I'd feel happy to engage someone in a functional conversation if I went to Germany. They'd have to be patient and bear with me but not sure I'm up to the level of a lot of the written comments here in German just yet.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/adam606139

Congratulations on your tree. It's a ton of work to get there. Someday, hopefully I will get there.

February 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Thanks, I remember feeling the same when I started, you will get there in the end.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dmitry_Gid

Du hast jetzt nicht gesagt, kannst du deutsch gut sprechen und Live-Rede verstehen?

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

As I've said elsewhere I wouldn't feel confident writing German as a comment but would be happy to try conversation if I was visiting or around German speakers. I don't think Duo is a 'one stop solution' to learning a language and I'd be the first to say I need to apply myself to other sources, books, videos etc That said if I find something German language on TV or Netflix I find myself understanding some parts of dialogue only to trip myself up on a certain word I don't understand.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/spottyhorse

Congratulations! That's a lot of work! How about applying your language learning skills to Italian? I've recently started and really like the course structure.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Thank you. I did a little Italien when I was at school many years ago but for now am going to have a go at the reverse German tree.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HeathKampb

WOW!!! You finished it I still have a LOT to go.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

The times soon passes a day at a time, you will get there.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Katy_Beauty

I've been learning 6 languages with Duolingo, including German, but none of them has finished... Very impressive for your persistence. Congratulations!

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

I think as I'm getting older I wouldn't be able to jump around mentally between learning that many at once. You seem to be making good progress and I'm sure you'll finish them as you obviously enjoy the process. Good luck.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gottogetout

Wow. It's wonderful.
I'm on the same way and I'm almost sure that it will take me at least 2 years too. it's normal.

Congratulations

One little question, by the way : Which other sites (or apps if you use a phone) have you been using along with DL?

are you using a phone or a tablet, or a PC ? I'm only u0sing a PC, personally. No smartphone.

I'm personally now using www.memrise.com and I realized that I would have been better inspired in doing it at the same time as duolingo, for the vocabulary, from the begining. The voices are fantastic.
I also like a lot forvo.com

if you can give us information... I'm very very interested :-)

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/brucethom1950

You're on level 19 in German? I thought you just recently started learning German. Maybe, I have you confused with someone else.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Thanks, I know when I started I thought my progress was slow, others were flying ahead who'd started about the same time as me but we all work at our own pace and get there in our own time.

I've used a mixture of PC, tablet and phone while I've been learning, whichever was most convenient depending on my situation at the time ie at work, at home, realising I'd forgotten to do my practice and in bed at 11.40PM lol

I have watched some youtube videos to help at times and I did use Memrise for a while but as I sometimes found little time to get my 'Duo' done it fell by the wayside although I did find it helpful as you say. I think I also tried Babbel in the early days too.

I'd not seen Forvo previously but will definitely be taking a closer look at that in future. As for others there have been a few mentions in the comments, Peppa Pig in German and Herr Antrim on Youtube and Deutsche Welle courses.

Hope that's some help.

March 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gottogetout

Thanks for your answer I dond't know Peppa Pig in German, neither Herr Antrim. I'll look at it.

March 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Tedee15

Please, can someone please tell me what a German tree is?

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gottogetout

it's a tree go gives Äpfel. (Joke)

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

The tree is the layout on the screen that Duolingo show the language progression as.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Rashmi217102

Awesome, congratulations! Hope you get to make the trip soon!

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Thanks. Reading a lot of the responses here over the last couple of days has encouraged me a lot and today I started planning the trip for a few months time.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nardoel

How about making that trip happen now?

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

As well as starting the reverse German tree, I tarted planning today for a trip in a few months time :-)

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dianteng_Chen

Well done and congratulations!!! That's a lot of hard work! Just like you, I am also learning German for a proposed trip. Hopefully I am gonna actually use the sentences I learn from Duo in real conversation.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Thank you. That was my original intention when I started but my trip was cancelled. I'm now planning another trip and will be quite happy to try some conversation in German.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GirishGiri4

Hey after completing the whole tree out of 5 how will you rate yourself in speaking and daily communication? I am just .. Lets say 10% with my progress on tree.. So just being curious how this gonna end up with..

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

As I've said elsewhere, I wouldn't feel happy with my written German for comments here but I'd be quite happy to engage in conversation, albeit probably 'functional', with a German speaker. I know it wouldn't be perfect but something is better than nothing and most people enjoy the challenge of communication. I intend supplementing my German with other sources, Youtube, German language programs with subtitles etc, possibly something I should have done at a much earlier stage in my 'Duo Journey'. Looking around the discussions many people seem to suggest Duo as just one of a few learning resources.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnnieMod

MikeAllen927078,

If you need some more non-sentence based practice, take a look at Deutsche Welle: https://www.dw.com/en/learn-german/s-2469

Nicos Weg - small videos, continuous story of a guy visiting Germany and Harry – gefangen in der Zeit - a guy gets lost in time are pretty good at seeing some of the vocabulary you learned here in a different way - and add some more of it - especially towards the end. The rest of the courses and material can also be useful - but these can serve as a good review :)

And have fun on your trip!

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Thanks for your reply, I really appreciate it. I've had a few suggestions regarding other sources so I'll take a look at them all in time and I'm sure will find them helpful.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Muhammad656909

Congrats Guess I am the only Bangladeshi learning German here in Duolingo. Just started anyways. Hopefully i remain consistent upon this.

March 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gottogetout

hi,
About who learns what with DL : here

March 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hassanalho2

Gut gemacht und viel Spaß weiterhin.

March 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FifteenFlame286

Sehr gut, du bist sehr fliessig

March 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AdamKean

Moin!

Ich glaube, du meinst "fleißig", was auch "fleissig" geschrieben werden kann :-)

March 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Firestartergold

Congratulations! I am about 1/6th done after maybe 3 months. I am an average level 2 on all of mine I'd say, but I plan to go back and re-memorize. I think I am progressing too quickly, but good job and good luck.

March 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Tristan694406

Just completed it tonight!

I'm retired, so it took me only a year.

March 3, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

That's good going, congratulations!

March 3, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Wow, thanks for all the responses, far more than I was expecting. Been really busy since I posted my original message so will leave it at this for now but will try to answer individually over the weekend. Thanks again.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Paul.II

First of all, Congratulations! There are many who give up on the way and only few who come to the end, but...

Please, please don't stop your intimate relationship with the skill you have so laboriously acquired. There is this thing with skills (and a new language is no exception) that if they are not practised they die in oblivion, so consider such a possibility and make a calculation.

Is it worth it to keep practising/using your German in exchange for not turning your time and effort to a waste - I know what my own answer to that dilemma would be.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeAllen927078

Thank you for your comments. Along with others here, your response has made me consider the situation carefully and I have now started the reverse German tree. I also intend to do some more work outside of Duo to help also.

March 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/OCandogan

Congratulations. Well done.

March 5, 2019
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