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Why is "two times" दो बार and not दो बारें, when बार is feminine?

March 1, 2019

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https://www.duolingo.com/aaditsingh8

बार is both a noun and an adverb, just like in English. It depends on the way it is used:

1. Noun: Here, it means 'time'.
E.g. "The first time" - "पहली बार" [And yes, it is a feminine noun]

2. Adverb: Here, one can say it means 'times'. Like other Hindi adverbs, it does not depend on a related noun's gender or number.
E.g. "Two times" - "दो बार", "One time" - "एक बार".

March 5, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/vinay92

Have you ever seen बारें which is supposedly the plural of (noun) बार? I am drawing a blank about where it might be used.

March 5, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/EvanJackDiValdez

बारें is NOT the plural of बार. बारें is not used anywhere. It is always 'ek bar (one time)', 'do bar (two times)', 'teen bar (three times)'.

बारे (this bare is different from baren which has the sound of 'n') means 'about'.

March 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/rhopaloceraa

Bar is like times , one time, two times it has nothing to do with gender and also baaren does not exist.

March 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/MarcinM85

According to wiktionary (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AC%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0) बारें does exist (see the declension). However, as an example they give दो बार, not दो बारें. Do you mean that in such expressions (one time, two times) बार is not really treated as a noun and shouldn't change according to the declension rules?

March 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/rhopaloceraa

Actually the बारे exist and not ,बारें. And the former one is used as about.

March 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/EvanJackDiValdez

True. बारें is no word, unless one is trying to change the Hindi Shabdkosh...

March 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/vinay92

I think बार is an adverb there.

March 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/qqqqqqqqzzzqqqqq

Thanks for answering. It is feminine though, yes? You'd say पहली बार, and not पहला बार, is that right?

March 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/vinay92

Yes. It's पहली बार and not पहला बार but I have no idea why the word has a gender and not a plural.

March 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/qqqqqqqqzzzqqqqq

Thanks for the answer

March 3, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/rhopaloceraa

Yeah in this way it's feminine.

March 3, 2019
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