https://www.duolingo.com/profile/concreteangel73

struggling with German

I am doing pretty well but really struggling with the "das" "der" and "die". the vocabulary is not hard to grasp really but the various tenses.... trinkt, trinke, etc are getting tough. Can anyone explain these to me a little better? I don't have any friends on here so I am a lone ranger here, definitely could use some help. thanks

March 11, 2019

32 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KodiLance

The endings for those are fairly simple, if you look at it a certain way.

For I, the verb is always going to end in "e". Ex: danke, trinke gehe, etc. He, She is always going to end in "t". Ex: dankt, trinkt, geht, etc. You is (mostly) always going to end in "st" Ex: dankst, trinkst, gehst, etc. They/we is always going to end in "en". Ex: danken, trinken, gehen, etc.

I am drinking. Ich trinke. She is drinking. Sie trinkt. They are drinking. Sie trinken. You are drinking. Du trinkst.

Make sense?

March 11, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/npLam

For I, the verb is always going to end in "e".
He, She is always going to end in "t".

Might be best to say: nearly always.

eg:

ich mag

er mag

: )

March 11, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/concreteangel73

thank you.

March 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alpha3099

I am not too sure that du form will be used mostly for „you“. There are plenty of places where it is appropriate to show respect to people you don’t know and should defer to the native speaker on if they would like to use Sie or du.

March 11, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AdamKean

In fact, I would recommend learning that there are three forms for "you" as early as possible, to try and avoid confusion later down the line:

  • du, dich, dir (deiner)

  • ihr, euch (eurer)

  • Sie, Ihnen (Ihrer)

March 12, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ally.x
  • 1216

1111 is a nice streak count Adam ;-)

March 12, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AdamKean

Why thank you very much, Ali :-)

I see you're not too far off yourself ;-)

March 12, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/salivanto

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https://youtu.be/x6ql8arRrsk https://youtu.be/x6ql8arRrsk


AdamKean wrote (apparently replying to me):

Awesome! Never thought that I could call it a one thousand eleventy-one day streak, but every day's a school day :P

Haha - thanks. I went back and forth between whether it's "eleven hundred and eleven" or "one thousand eleventy one." I had fun saying both. A tip of the hat to The Hobbit, of course.

P.S. If this wasn't a reply to me, please humor me to save me the public shame. :-)

March 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AdamKean

Awesome! Never thought that I could call it a one thousand eleventy-one day streak, but every day's a school day :P

March 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/concreteangel73

Thank you. Already struggling with das, der, and die.

March 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/concreteangel73

This helped a whole lot. thank you.

March 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/OakDoc1

I think DL should include the article when introducing a new noun. Instead of just saying, e.g., "Mädchen" DL should say, "das Mädchen", etc.

March 11, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AlexShirl

This seems like such an easy little addition, and it would seriously make a world of difference.

March 11, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MariaIsabe660268

Hi. Regarding the gender of words, when I started out in German, whenever I learned a new noun, I would write down the gender. You can keep a list. There are rules for gender. For example,words ending in -ung are usually feminine. For some nouns it is more tricky. Best to learn as you go.

As to verb tenses, regular verbs like trinken follow a set pattern. The ending is always the same for each person. You do need to learn the endings for different persons. Ist person ich trinke, second person du trinkst and so on. Writing down works for me.

I did German in Duolingo as a refresher. I finished the course. I have never checked any grammar notes. Not sure how Duo teaches the grammar. When I refresh a language I just work from memory and correct mistakes as I go along.

But if you go through all the lessons, you should memorise it eventually. I would not advise on skipping levels if you are a beginner. This a very complex language. In my experience it takes a while to learn this language. The grammar rules are complex. Look up different sources, not just Duo. As to the Gender learning, you can use online dictionaries.

There are lots of information on different languages on Pinterest for example., including German. I have an account and have loads on German grammar. There also loads of German apps.

I hope this is helpful.

March 11, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alpha3099
  1. der, die, das. You just have to memorize them with new words. When you learn a new noun you should learn „cat = die Katze“ „water = das Wasser“ „market = der Markt“. You will eventually catch patterns and rules that will make it easier to remember (all words that end in -ung take die and all words that end in -chen take das) but that isn’t important to start. To start, just the recognition that for the largest percentage of words, it just takes old fashioned work.

  2. the verbs you have, are only a single tense - present. They are simply the conjugations of that single verb. English does it as well, but it is extremely simplified. (If you added thou and thee back into our table, it looks almost exactly like German). Most verbs take the following conjugation with some irregular verbs, sein, mögen, wissen, nehmen, all the Modal Verbs. But you just have to memorize them. And memorize the verbs that take vowel changes. Simplest way is to take the verb, drop the -en ending (sometimes just -n like in wandern) and follow the chart below.

Trinken - to drink
I drink - ich trinke (add -e)
You (informal) drink - du trinkst (Add -st)
He/she/it drinks - er/sie/es trinkt (add -t)
We drink - wir trinken (add -en)
You (plural informal) - ihr trinkt (add -t)
They/you (formal and formal plural) - sie/Sie trinken (add -en)

March 11, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/salivanto

I have made four livestream videos where I go through Duolingo German sentences and explain the grammar behind them. Starting with the second one, I prepared a short lesson on the very kinds of things you're asking about here. Then I work through some Duolingo sentences and then refer back to the grammar lesson that I just did.

Last week and the week before was about conjugation (trinke, trinkt... etc). Today's was on prepositions. I was thinking that today's stream was going to be the last for a while, but if people watch the replays of the last four and give feedback on what they'd like to see more of, I'll be glad to do more.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLl5PRFz0DHxbxJbm60pEt7BRTPKfzrWFI

March 11, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/XynnAN

a tip: foreign words and words ending with -chen or -lein are usually das, words that end with -ung, -heit, -keit, -schaft are usually die. I would recommend keeping a notebook where you write down vocabulary and use a color scheme to remember the gender of each word.

March 12, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/David904136

I've been struggling with it since 1982. Really.

March 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alchemyst21

when you get further along (accusative, dative), use this mnemonic from my HS German teacher: rese, nese, mrmn (we pronounced it "reesey, neesey, murman")

der ---> den ---> dem

die ---> die ---> der

das ---> das ---> dem

die (plural) ---> die ---> den

read the last letter of each word vertically and you'll see the rese, nese, mrmn :)

March 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/YOURFRIEND...

I struggle with das, der and die words too.

March 11, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mwbrand1

I believe everyone that is new to learning German struggles with the definite articles and verb conjugation. The best tip I can give is, when you learn a new noun memorize the gender of the noun as well.

As far as verb conjugation, that will eventually click the more you practice. There are some irregular verbs, but for the most part, verbs follow the same patterns.

Be sure to check out the many German Language learning videos available on YouTube. My favorites are, "Learn German with Anja" and "Easy German".

March 11, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/David838524

First I would suggest thinking about the words in terms of masculine, feminine and neuter, instead of der, die, das. It may seem like semantics now, but I found it helpful to think that way especially as most indo-european languages have gender.

There are some patterns you will pick up on, though it's not going to follow every time. One example is conceptual words will mostly be feminine like die Gelegenheit, die Meinung, die Idee - and the endings of the first two examples I gave will always be feminine, so you will start to recognize them after awhile. In other cases you just have to learn them by rote. I also agree that it's important to learn the words with their definite article, Die Sonne instead of Sonne. Good luck!

(I originally mis-stated "der Sonne" instead of the correct "die Sonne" hence the discussion below.)

March 11, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/npLam

Der Sonne instead of Sonne.

Typo?

Die Sonne

: )

March 11, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/thwain

The thing to note when studying multiple languages is that even though many languages have genders, nouns do not necessarily have the same gender. For example: in German, the sun is die Sonne (feminine) and the moon is der Mond (masculine); while in French, it is le soleil (masculine) and la lune (feminine).

March 11, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/David838524

No, not a typo, just what happens when someone stops using a foreign language on a regular basis and 25 years pass. Believe it or not, I used to be quasi-fluent in German (conversationally). I'm using Duo Lingo to brush up on German and Portuguese, also Spanish to some extent since I learned it informally, the rest of the languages are more or less new attempts :)

March 11, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sea-mist

can you edit that mistake in your post to not confuse beginners?

March 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/David838524

Will the shaming never end?

I'm just kidding, I made the correction and added an explanation.

It's a little disheartening when I see how much knowledge and language competency I've lost but in German in particular I have no reason to speak it and though I like the German language, I learned it before I discovered the best reason and also aid to learning a foreign language is listening to music sung in that language.

Hence, Portuguese:the best music that everyone knows about, and Hungarian: the best music that nobody knows about. Also Welsh: the best music that nobody knows about and is also very difficult to locate.

March 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/npLam

tune in to the rugby this Saturday and I'm sure you'll hear a rousing rendition of: Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau

: )

March 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sea-mist

Die Sonne

March 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NathanielA558488

I strongly recommend a book on German grammar. Even a basic one will develop your understanding of why different words behave in different ways, and all of a sudden you have a great deal more context to work with when reading German.

March 12, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sea-mist

Verb conjugations

I -e ich trinke

you (singular informal) -st du trinkst

he/she/it -t er/sie/es trinkt

I suggest to always be reading the tips and notes with the lessons.

Ich komme (I come) du kommst (you come) er kommt (he comes)
sie kommt (she comes) wir kommen (we come).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJZCfCh4TRE

March 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JosephineWilton

I just want to know where the tips and tricks got to on Duo. I used to be able to look up stuff to get my head around it all, but now I can't find it.

March 14, 2019
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