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"Wir rennen zum Garten."

Translation:We run to the garden.

April 9, 2013



How do you distinguish zum and zur?


Zur = zu + der Zum = zu + dem

In the sentence, "Wir rennen zum Garten", "zu" is used with the dative case. Because the article of "Garten" is "der", it becomes "dem".



But why is it dative? I thought motion toward something is supposed to be accusative.


You are right that accusative is used when showing motion towards something. However, there are some prepositions that are always used with dative. "Zu" is one of them.


Lovely. German drives me nuts! I'm thinking of writing a formal request that they make a few changes...starting with "diers" for ALL nouns, please.

But thanks!


In all fairness to German, most languages with cases also have things like this. For example, in Latin contra (against) takes the accusative, while cum (with) takes the ablative,

In general it's best not to try too hard to ascribe meanings to cases. Their names, like "accusative", "genitive" etc., reflect the most common use, but far from all of them. Think rather of it in purely mechanical terms: zu makes the nouns it governs go dative, because that's the rule of the game.


Brilliant! Count me in


It's really frustrating to me because German is so close to being a perfect language. So much of it is well structured, logical, powerful, and beautiful.

If they'd just get rid of noun gendering (an absolutely useless feature that's in far too many languages,) clean up the pronouns, clean up the articles, and make the cases more consistent, it would be possibly the best language in the world :(


Mark Twain already wrote such a letter 140 years ago! https://www.cs.utah.edu/~gback/awfgrmlg.html


I don't understand: you're saying that "zu" is always used with dative. So how is it that in some cases we have the word "zum = zu + dem" ? Dem is genitive, isn't it ?


Dem is dative, when it applies to a masculine or neuter singular noun. For feminine singular, der is dative, hence zur


Der ist dative for die (feminin)


Sorry, I'm confusing myself. "Zu + dem" is dative. Then what about "Zu + der" ?


Do we have to contract zu and dem to make zum, or would saying "zu dem" still be acceptable in a conversation?


both is acceptable and used in conversations.

If you are talking very fast it may sound a bit weird not to use the contracted version, though.

But if you are still thinking about what you are going to say next it's better to use the uncontracted version than to make a pause. That's what I do, so of course I like it best. ;P


why is the Continous Tense "We are running to the garden" not accepted?


"the yard" is an Americanism. An English speaker does not call a garden a yard.


We try to accept US and UK variations. As you point out, "garden" is preferable for "Garten". That's why it's the displayed translation :)


Why does one of the options include 'garden' and one 'yard'? The answer terms should be consistent.


Because "yard" means different things in American and British English.


As an American, I've never referred to a garden as a "yard." To me, a "yard" is more like an open field or something.


Does Garten mean yard or garden. To me, a yard is the land around your house, and a garden is a spot in your yard to grow flowers or vegetables.


German is the most beautiful language I like all of it. So powerful and original in my opinion


Trying to get a sense of "zum". In this context does it mean "to", as in arrive at the entrance of the garden, "towards" as in the direction of, or actually to run "into" the garden as being stood on the grass?


Here it really means 'to'.

To express that we are running 'towards' the garden in german you say "Wir rennen (in) Richtung Garten.". But I doubt someone would say this, because you yourself know your destination. That's rather interesting for searching a missing child or something like that.

To express actually running into the garden in german you can say "Wir rennen in den Garten."


Why is "Wir rennen nach Garten" wrong?


Why not zur here? Garten is der


Why not 'nach'?


I'm a non-native English speaker and I wonder what is wrong with my sentence 'we run toward the garden' since it is not accepted by that owl.


Running "toward the garden" means "in the direction of the garden". But the garden may not necessarily be you final destination: you may stop before it, or you may run across the garden and keep going further to another place.

Running "to the garden" means that the garden is your destination, you'll run until you arrive there and you'll stay a while to enjoy the garden.

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    I wrote "we are running to garden" and it said it was false. Any ideas why?


    Zum = to the. So I guess you should have written "we are running to the garden".


    We are running towards the garden is wrong.

    Should it be?


    What's the difference between "Laufen" and "Rennen"?


    So what would be the difference between using "zum" and "Dem". In the original dative case lesson I thought you would use Dem in cases where you needed to say "to the blank". Or would you just use Dem in cases without needing "to". As in: You give the woman the apple Du gibst dem Frau den Äpfel.


    "We run to the back yard"?


    because that's something different. Garten= garden (or yard as seen the comments under)


    why it is to the yard not at the yard ????


    The word "zum" is a contraction of "zu dem" which means "to the".


    If it is like English, "at" means in, on or near, and "to" means toward.


    Why is this dativ?! There is movement in the sentence! Shouldn't movement be alwaýs associated with akkusativ?!


    I was confused about this for several minutes too, until I suddenly remembered that "zu" is a dative preposition, meaning that it is always associated with the dative case. It is not one of the prepositions that takes either the dative or the accusative, depending on movement.


    (a) that's "destination of motion", not just "motion". Running (around and around) in a place would be dative despite the motion, for example.

    (b) that's true for prepositions that can take either the dative case (for location) or the accusative case (for destination of motion).

    zu always expresses destination of motion and so doesn't need to make this distinction; it always takes the dative case.

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