https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Finnmark

West-Frysk Application

Frisian. Do you know what this language is? It is fields, meadows, beautiful islands in Northern Netherlands. It is the culture of Fryslân, where I lived for six monthes. Truly a wonderful place. It had very cool winters (Circa 0-10) and coolish summers (Circa 10-20). About 470'000 people speak it though, so it is an endangered language. That is why I am going to apply for this language in the incubator, but before I do, is there anybody that wants to learn this language and show off your skills at Fryslân (https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frysl%C3%A2n)? Plus, it will be a really easy language to learn from English.

Bûter = Butter Brea = Bread Tsiis = Cheese

Do you want to learn it?

EDIT: See this discussion - I want to hear from you. https://www.duolingo.com/comment/3148773

May 25, 2014

81 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Andrealphus

I wasn't super interested, but the moment you teach me cheese in a language I take to it like a fish to water. I love me some cheese.

May 25, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Finnmark

Well, consider it done. Goed brea, bûter en tsiis.

May 25, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jbolliger_vafud

I am so for it! I want to learn all the old germani. Languages. This would be perfect

September 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/inkybaba

I love Frisian! Also, it is apparently the closest language to english.

May 26, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Finnmark

Other than Scots. And I'm glad I have so much support!

May 26, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Malesperanto

"Scots" referring to "Lallans" here, rather than Gaelic. The discussion on whether Lallans is the closest language to English, of course centres on whether Lallans is in fact a separate language. I would say Lallans is the real English language, and what they speak in the South is a bunch of divergent dialects, poluted with a lot of French and some Flemish. No wonder some Frisians dislike being associated with those, even though neither English nor Frisian are in origin Frankish dialects.

"Skots" tsjut hjir "Leechlânsk" oan, net Gealsk. De diskusje of Leechlânsk de neist oan it Ingelsk besibbe taal is, rjochtet him fansels op of Leechlânsk wol in selstanniche taal is. Ik soe sizze dat it Leechlânsk it wiere Ingelsk is, en wat yn it suden praat wurdt is in protsje ôfwikende dialekten, fersmoarge mei in soad Frânsk en wat Flaamsk. Fandêre dat guon Friezen dêr net graach mei yn ferbân brocht wurde, sels al binne Ingelsk en Frysk fan oarsprong beide gjin Frankyske dialekten.

December 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Laurann333

I would! My grandparents speak a dialect of this language (not Frisian, but West-Frisian) and I don't.. so that's not good.. I would like to understand all of those Frisian words they throw into their Dutch.

May 26, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ingrid.rollema

West Frisian is Frisian. Only referred to as "West" outside the region, and it is another language entirely which is called that in the Netherlands to distingush it from the languages spoken in parts of Germany (or dialects, not sure).

Sorry if that's already been clarified, on my crap phone. :-/

August 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Laurann333

Oh really? I didn't know. Thanks!

August 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ingrid.rollema

I had to ask my dad and my Beppe, because I wasn't sure myself...they are Frisian from Fryslân.

August 27, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/-Jurjen-

In 2018 Leeuwarden is the European Capital of Culture, and in this year they (or we, because I'm am a frisian too) also want to promote the province of Fryslân (that's Friesland in Frisian and the official name in the Netherlands too). Maybe you should go to 2018.nl to propose it as a project for ECC and make people enthusiastic to take part in the project.

June 27, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Zententia

Yes that's a great idea : D

June 28, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jorno1

i actually did my final school project on that topic :D

May 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnCatDubh

YES!! Yesyesyesyesyes Frisian is one of my favourite languages and I would LOOOOVE to learn it but can’t find where YEEEEESSSS I’mma give ya a Lingot for bringing this up <3

September 2, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Zententia

I have been looking for a thread like this. I would absolutely love to learn Frysian. If you are having trouble getting it off the ground, should we e-mail some Frysian people? Maybe even some Frysian schools, radio stations... The language could really use the support.

May 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MidEmpire

BramZon, in terms of a linguistics point of view in the Germanic languages, branching down going into West Germanic and Ingvaeonic and then Anglo-Frisian branch, the two languages there are English and Frysk. Along with that, there are several sound changes from other Germanic languages in English and frysk that are common. It is true over time that due to a Norse influence and a French influence for English and a Dutch influence and Low German influence have shown that frysk has a lot in common with Dutch and also the low German dialects and English has adapted from a North Germanic and non Germanic influences. Through family however they are still related and the closest to one another, they might sound similar to one another but they're still part of the same branch. I'm not trying to upset you or anything just thought maybe I could help you out :)

December 16, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Navojka

I bet it would be very popular on Duolingo!

April 6, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ingrid.rollema

Yes! My dad and his siblings are native speakers (along with Dutch), as were his parents (and his dad's siblings) who came to the US after WWII.

Aside from the Frysk Akademy's wurdboek (dictionary), there really is not much out there in the way of learning any of the Frisian languages, particularly "west" Frisian.

I would love to pick up some of the language using Duolingo.

August 26, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MidEmpire

Please do this West Frysk language it's the closest language to English today and it would make me happy to learn the language anyway cause I love learning languages and Frysk really interests me

September 10, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/StopMeNow

My Pake and Beppe immigrated to Canada in the 1950's, I've always been interested in learning Frisian and would love if Duolingo had a course!

January 30, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ingrid.rollema

Small world. :-) That is when mine came to the US. Do you know where in Fryslân they lived before immigrating to Canada? Some of my Beppe's relatives ended up in British Columbia also.

February 1, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/StopMeNow

My Mom's parents were both from near Sneek. My Pake on my father's side was from Harkema. I'm from BC!

March 5, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ingrid.rollema

My Beppe is from Koudum, near Sneek (Snits), and Pake was from Poppenwier. His side (the Rollema family) ended up mostly on the west coast of the US, and her side (the Schuurmans family) in BC mostly, if they came over at all. Most of her family is still in the Netherlands.

September 22, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Malesperanto

I would say it's Poppernwier that's close to Snits; Koudum is probably twice as far.

May 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ferjo_Kalma

I must disagree with the northern Netherlands part. But I'll read it's spoken in the Western part of Frisia. Westerlauwersk-Frysk is spoken in West Frisia. I sure like to see Sealtersk and Northern Frisian languages as well. But ok let's start with Westerlauwersk-Frysk.

I sure like to get some East-Frisian and North-Frisian language lessons since i studied some West-Frisian. But of course you have my vote for a West-Frisian language course. Nice to hear you had a good time in Westerlauwersk Fryslân.

July 27, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/syc200123

Hi guys,

I'm working for a language IT consulting company called Appen in Australia. We are currently running a Frisian project to improve the current language systems (voice recognition, keyboard etc.) used on some PC and mobile devices for the language and we're searching for Frisian speakers to help with the creation of a wordlist. We found it extremely difficult to find them so it would be very helpful if someone could spread the words and let people know about this project, I am sure someone could find it interesting.

Here is the link to apply in case you are interested: https://goo.gl/XbJQIB.

Many thanks for your help!

Veronika

October 11, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Celyia

Please. I'd love to learn Frisian and, in all honesty, I'd pretty much drop everything I'm doing for the opportunity to learn it. Heard it (West) when I was a young girl and it really stuck with me ever since. :)

May 26, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ragnar82

I've been wanting to learn Frisian for a long time. I would take the course.

September 1, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/babslw

Count me in as interested.

August 31, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mothabraxxas

Would be interested! My great grandparents spoke it, but didn't pass it on to their children. :(

May 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnCatDubh

Are you kidding? It’s one of my favourite languages. I’ve wanted to learn it for ages.

July 4, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Malesperanto
August 8, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EvdogMusic

Has anything come of this yet?

February 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Malesperanto

It doesn't look like it's in the incubator as yet.

May 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LennartdeFraeisk

Thank you for use of the phrase proudly used by the (West) Frisians. We don't really over here in the East we're more or less Saxonised...

December 30, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ikamjh

Are you a native speaker who applied on the incubator or something?

May 27, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Finnmark

Not native - but I know it well. But otherwise, you have the gist right.

May 27, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ikamjh

cool!

May 27, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/samenvloeiing

I'd love to learn Frisian! Lived there briefly but never had a chance.

August 19, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LouisDedman

I know this is necroposting, but I would really appreciate a Frisian course. I am taking the Dutch course, and it is really helpful to me, so a Frisian course would be a dream come true. So yes, I want to learn Frisian.

October 2, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lewons7

I'd learn it.

May 16, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ingrid.rollema

I know this is an old, kind of dead thread, but...

This is happening: A free FutureLearn course in Frisian, from the University of Groningen. https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/frisian

I've signed up. Starts in five days. Lasts three weeks. Free.

September 22, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/driedstr

I took this course, and thought it was GREAT. Looks like it will be offered again soon, aspiring Frisian learners should check it out!

(I'd also love to see Frisian on Duo, FWIW)

October 18, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BramZon

I am a native (West/Dutch) Frisian, I'm prepared to help out if Duolingo decides to implement it.

December 16, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LHA4

I would like to learn, my beppe speaks frisian and has many frisian books that I would love to be able to read.

May 19, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mystwun

I would love to learn this language. Are they going to put it in?

July 2, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/-Jurjen-

There is no "they" at duolingo, everybody can start making courses for languages at incubator.duolingo.com. Everything needed is enough people who can speak/write in Frysk.

July 4, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Malesperanto

I think there really are "They". You can apply to contribute to building a course, but it looks like you can't actually do anything until you get approval. Apparently, not enough Frisian language speakers have committed themselves so far, thus "They" haven't included a Frisian course in the incubator as yet.

July 4, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/-Jurjen-

I understand. I used "they" to say "people at duolingo who make all those language courses", because those people don't exist. Courses are made by people at home who are enthusiastic about a language.

July 4, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lottelientje

I would love to see this! My beppe speaks Frisian, but no one in our family has bothered to learn it. I seem to be the only one with a thing for languages. This would be awesome!

July 6, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Fordaemdur

Interested in Eastern Frisian learned from German, as far as it is spoken solely in Germany.

July 24, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BryonSmith

I want to learn Frisian! That'd be fascinating.

August 6, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ignacio866002

I would absolutely be interested in a Frisian for English speakers course. Heck, I'd be even more interested in a Frisian for Dutch speakers course, but either would be great. Fryslân boppe!

September 9, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EvdogMusic

I would take both trees just so I could translate between each easier, instead of having to do double translating in my head.

February 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/OwainMorris78

Yes! I'd be really interested in learning Frisian! :)

September 27, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WarioCraft

I want to help with this course. I would definitely learn this language I love Germanic Languages

October 30, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/cmheerma

I am Frisian by ancestry and would love this language.

December 13, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Neron510880

ok yes

April 28, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/-Josh.

I have interest in learning this language

July 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/insanefool

I just found this thread. I would love to be able to learn Frisian. My dad emigrated from Friesland but never had the patience to teach it to us.

January 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KaisaLindf

I found this worksheet very useful!! please make some more!!!!!!!

June 11, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Monosmith

Yes, definitely, for all of the reasons that you mentioned, plus I have ancestors from Friesland.

October 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BryonSmith1

Personally, I would love to learn Frisian.

October 31, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nimbletea

My great grandmother is Frisian, I don't know enough to help but I'd love to see it implemented so I can speak to her in her native language

November 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Friesbert

I would love to have Frisian be an option on Duolingo.

November 5, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DaveOverZero

I MUST learn Frisian.

November 29, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gjvillegas25

I would love that idea! I have always wanted to learn the language, but couldn't find anything on it

May 20, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ounieh

I would love to learn Frisian.

June 12, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Roos033

I know this is late, but I'd love to learn this language

June 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Guzenko

Would be a good course for native Dutch speakers, maybe :)

July 14, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Roos033

A lot of dutch people consider it as a dialect :( (which it isn't), and I think it'd get a lot more appreciation from English speaking persons considering it's very closely related to English. I'm mainly curious how the Frisians would react, I think very happy

August 12, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GaryGoodma2

FutureLearn offers a course in Frisian, it is conducted by the University of Groningen. I have taken this course and found it enjoyable. In my opinion, it sounds like a Frenchman trying to speak both Dutch and English with mostly German verb conjugation patterns. Being a native English speaker who also knows Dutch and German, I found Frisian to be a pleasant language to study (is it appropriate to call a language "cute"?) and I hope to learn more. Memrise also has several Frisian courses; they are short, but they could be helpful - especially as it is not particularly easy to find resources for Frisian. Hopefully Duolingo will come to our rescue! :)

July 24, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marethyu9

OMG PLEASE DO THIS!!! I'VE BEEN LOOKING SO HARD FOR RESOURCES TO LEARN FRYSK!!!!! IT WOULD MEAN EVERYTHING!!!

August 31, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Eddyspeeder

I'd love to see this getting added to Duolingo. The Futurelearn course is nicely made but not enough to get one going.

November 2, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mrypma

Yes, I want to learn Frisian.

November 21, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ItsJohnny_

Bûter, brea en grin tsiis... I will study Engelsk and also friesk!

December 2, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/P_Azul

Butter, bread, and green cheese - is good English and good Frisian Bûter, brea and griene tsiis, is goed Ingelsk en goed Frysk

December 2, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/driedstr

In the meantime, there's now a r/Frysk subreddit with some interesting resources -- https://www.reddit.com/r/frysk

January 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ARCANA-MVSA

I would totally learn Frisian.

Volgav vitsenanieff nivya kevach varatsach.

February 21, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LaPlaya5

Finnmark: thankyou. It would be great if you could get a Frisian course started. Don't worry about not being a native speaker, the native Frisians are sure to jump in with corrections. And there is "The Frysk Academy" who may help you. There are Frisians and their descendents in many countries. I met some from the south of Chile who now live in Australia. My Frisian father (who has now passed away) always regretted that he was illiterate in his native language, although he was literate in several other languages. Frisian was not allowed to be taught in school during his youth. And this may be a reason why he didn't teach us much Frisian. Some older members of the Frisian diaspora might want to learn what they were denied so long ago, and their descendents, such as myself, want to learn too. According to Duolingo "there are more people learning Welsh than there are native speakers", perhaps Frisian could do the same. Also there is something to aid translation on itunes: an album of Bob Dylan songs sung in Frisian. Just make the course using phrases from Bob Dylan songs !

April 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nathaniel364482

I seriously want to learn this. I wanna visits the land of my ancestors with knowledge of the endangered language they speak. Most of my DNA is Frisian.

April 28, 2019
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