https://www.duolingo.com/albaduine

“Classic” or “Bold”… Why not offer us a choice?

There has been a lot of talk about Duolingo’s new look. Some people like it, but many seem disappointed, judging from the comments here in the forum. Earlier today I got the updated look, and I must admit I’m one of the disappointed. To me the old version looks more elegant, easy on the eyes and a pleasure to work with. The new version with its bright colors looks garish, harsh and distracting to me. I was similarly disappointed when the new look came to the mobile version a while back, and wish we could have the old look back.

I am writing not to complain, but to offer my feedback and a suggestion, with a hope that it might be helpful to all users.

Why not put in a selection button that would allow us, the users of Duolingo, an option to choose between the old or the new version that would not affect the usability, but purely the aesthetic pleasure of using the site. The html and css styling for the old look are already designed and ready to go. Why not let users use it? Perhaps the two themes could be called “Classic” and “Bold.”

In the meantime, today I saw a wonderful post by FieryCat showing how change back to the old look. It took me a while to figure out where to paste the command, but it worked! I was delighted to have the old look back, even if temporarily. I have two windows open, one with the new look and the other with the old, and what a difference…. https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/31465576

How about you, do you like the old or the new look better? Do you like the idea of having a choice? Leave a comment, and remember that we are a community, all of us here because of our passion for learning languages. Please be polite and respectful with your comments.

March 28, 2019

31 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Daniel589120

It could be something you can choose in the settings. They can call it themes or something! Another thing they could look at is having a "theme" that is configured for the visually impaired, I saw a few posts concerning this, considering that a lot of learners here are older than the bubblegum crowd it would make their lives easier.

March 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/albaduine

Thanks for your comment Daniel. I've seen a number of comments asking for more consideration for the visual impared. I hope our developers are listening and give us a choice.

March 30, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Giovanna-Louise

Ciao , Michael

I really like the way you worded your post, very thoughtful, professional and refreshingly not whining, as compared to most posts in the Forum about the issue

I think your idea is great! It would be right to offer the users to choose the layout they prefer , by clicking the options..

Personally I actually have no problem with the new look..It really matters not to me one way or the other, as long as I can continue to learn and practice on my trees..I am one of those who liked the update of Spanish and French trees, because they expanded the material to learn and drill , and it is so much better. I really do not care about few reduced crowns, golds and levels, that people complain about....(You cannot put them on the resume anyway..or anywhere for that matter, they are worth nothing..only the knowledge is)..The new courses are much more realistic in terms of teaching the knowledge of the everyday language that is usable.:-))

All I care about that they will still keep the Clubs going..:-)) Ciao, see you in our Club!

March 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/albaduine

Thank you for your comment, Giovanna. It seems to me that my suggestion to offer a choice of layouts would be easy to implement, and give users a choice.

I'm a fan of the Spanish and French course updates as well, which I got the same day as the new layout, and have happily started working on the new lessons. I also have no objection to the reduced XP for testing out.

Ci vediamo nel club!

March 30, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Giovanna-Louise

Grazie Michael! Si, ci vediamo nel club e goditi il tuo fine settimana..:-)

March 31, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/MAKAFAT

I cannot agree more...

March 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/albaduine

Thanks Makafat. I appreciate your support for my idea.

March 30, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Linda7Italian

Ciao albaduine. I haven't yet had the excitement of the new look so purtroppo can't add anything constructive or destructive. Hmm...

March 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Giovanna-Louise

I have the new look and it isn't making such a big difference.. It is much more important that hopefully the update will not terminate the existing Clubs, including our Italian Club, non e vero? I appreciate that (so far..) they are allowed to exist.. The new look of the website , and the updated trees(those actually are much better now) ,I am sure,we will be able to survive that..:-)) Buona giornata a te..:-)

March 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/albaduine

Ciao Linda. Personally I prefer the excitement of learning about "il passo remoto" or "l'imperfetto del congiuntivo." Ci vediamo!

March 30, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Mary76459

I am in a panic because when I logged on yesterday, all of my Levels were gone. I had reached Level 5 in each section of French & was on Level 4 in Adjectives 3, & that was wiped out, too. I am so discouraged. I have been using Duolingo for almost a year now, diligently, every day, doing 5 lessons or more a day. Now all of my work has been wiped out. What to do? I am SO DISCOURAGED!! HELP!!! PLEASE!!!

March 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Judit294350

This isn't the look but the new French tree which is being rolled out. You still have done what you have done - but they have added more - lots more. In theory if you complete the new DL French tree now you will have completed up to A2 (without the oral component - but that's another issue).

March 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/albaduine

Hi Judit, Thanks for your comment. I think the new French tree looks great. It will keep us busy for quite a while.

March 30, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/NancyMihalich

Mary76459, yesterday I logged on to a new French tree and went from French Tree 3 to French Tree 12! I'm learning more vocabulary on this new tree! For example, touchante, écœurante, dégoûtante, inquiétante, surprenant, etc. I must have the "Classic" look because everything looks the same, except the new French tree. Don't panic! Your progress is still there! You still have your crowns! You can check your progress on https://www.duome.eu/Mary76459/progress. You have the opportunity to learn more vocabulary now! Have a good evening!

March 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Giovanna-Louise

@Judith and @ Nancy

You are absolutely correct, I got that new tree as well along with the new Spanish tree and I absolutely love it!! Now I feel that the course is actually teaching me something that resembles a college level..

More skills added is exciting and much more realistic than plain basics from before.. All the complainers should check duome to see that their progress is still there , like you correctly explained

Thank you for a sensible comment among all the complainers!

March 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/albaduine

Hi Nancy, It's great to hear from you. I personally like the new update in the French course. We have our work cut out for us. My plan is to go through all the new purple units first, and get my golden owl back (bright yellow in the new look) here, and on duome.eu. À plus tard!

March 30, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/NancyMihalich

Ciao, Michael! I counted my purple units and I have 109. I just noticed my Golden Owl has flown away! Do I get my Owl back after I do the purple skills? I only have 5 golden units. Do I have to re-gild the whole tree before I get my Owl back? Now I'm confused! I'm not unhappy, just confused. Thanks for responding! Buona giornata!

March 30, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/albaduine

Hi Nancy, I discovered this the last time I got a French update, which was to Tree 8. If you complete all the purple units, which seems to be level 0, all your units will be at level 1 or higher, and the owl will reappear at the bottom of your tree, and in full strength at duome.eu/NancyMihalich. You may have noticed you can still see your French owl on duome, but it is very pale.

After I completed all the purple units in the French course, I did the same in all my other courses, and sure enough all the owls appeared in full strength. If you look on my duome.eu page, you'll see that my French owl and my Spanish owl are faded again, because of these new updates.

You can probably test out of most of the purple units, since it is the easiest level.

Goditi!

March 30, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/NancyMihalich

Thanks so much! I'll work on my purple units to get back my Golden Owl. I appreciate the information!

March 30, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/NancyMihalich

I just realised that I went from French Tree 3 to Tree 12. I wonder why you had French Tree 8 and I didn't?!?!? Oh, well! I love the new French Tree 12 because I'm learning advanced vocabulary. It's really hard but I love it so much! The French Tree 12 is going to take a while to conquer! BTW: what is Goditi?

April 5, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/albaduine

Hi Nancy, I'm not sure why I had Tree 8. I think I had Tree 2 before that, so who knows who had all those other updates. Yes, it will take us a while to conquer. I just finished my last purple unit this morning on my Spanish course and sure enough my owl is back. I was able to test out of most of them. Now to work on the French purple units.

Goditi is a form of the Italian verb godere, which means to enjoy. The tu conjugation for both the present and the imperative is "godi." So if I want to say "enjoy," I could say "ti godi" or "goditi."

Goditi la bellissima lingua francese!

April 6, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/NancyMihalich

You are a wealth of information! I've decided that we must be geniuses going from Tree 2 and/or Tree 3 to Tree 12! ha! ha! Congratulations on getting your Spanish Golden Owl again! Thanks for the Goditi lesson. I checked wordreference and read all about the Italian verb Godere. I must have forgotten about that verb! In bocca al lupo! Buon divertimento!

April 6, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/albaduine

Hi Mary, as Judit and Nancy have assured you, you haven't lost anything. All of your hard earned knowledge is still there. They've just added a lot of great new material. Yes, it will take longer to get through the course, but learning French is a grand adventure, wouldn't you say? Take your time and enjoy it. Meilleurs vœux!

March 30, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Giovanna-Louise

Well said , I totally agree! :-) Je suis completement d'accord avec toi :-)

March 31, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Songve

The new look is swell and the canary's tusks.

March 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/ProfesorAntonnio

This helped me to change the annoying new bold fonts https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/31497217

March 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/albaduine

Thanks for sharing the link, Profesor Antonnio. It's nice to know we have options.

March 30, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/NancyMihalich

BAM! Today my account looks quite BOLD! I just got it!

April 4, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/albaduine

How do you like it? I haven't seen so many protests about an update since all the protests about Health last year. I think my suggestion to offer us a choice makes sense, but I haven't heard from anyone anyone in the leadership of Duo, and I don't know if they have even seen this post.

April 6, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/NancyMihalich

I don't mind the "Bold" look but I don't have any problems with my eyes. I use my laptop and don't have a smartphone. It might look different on a smartphone. I rarely look at the Discussion Forum. I agree that if there are a lot of protests, Duolingo should provide an option to choose Bold or Classic. I didn't have Health so I don't know anything about that! I'm sure Duolingo is interested in their users' views. They've changed a lot since we started using it in 2014! I have friends who are thrilled that the Finnish language is in the Incubator! Duolingo is constantly improving their site! Sono soddisfatta di Duolingo!

April 6, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Graham622842

The really annoying thing to me is that the new tree 12 actually DUMBS DOWN the old tree. The tips and notes are nowhere as good, and major grammatical elements are missing, such as the Subjunctive and the plu-perfect.

May 14, 2019
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