Great concept, but maybe you should be able to do it between friends if you have a certain amount of active ones
Weird. I never thought of myself as a competitive person, but i really like the leagues. They keep me motivated to study. Otherwise, I'm just too lazy.
There really needs to be a way to turn off the league while not hiding the profile.
I understand it's fun for some users, but for others, it's a distraction or a bit of fluff. Yes, I can ignore fluff, but I'd prefer a simple button I could click called "opt out of leagues" or even "I'm a grumpy sod and don't want to play, just to learn" - I'd still click that.
This is what I did and I am taking this course on my own, no classroom situation. It says that my teacher has turned off the clubs option....Sign on to Duolingo on website. Click user name; click on settings, go to privacy and uncheck clubs. This opts you out of clubs/leagues and competitions. That is what I did after doing over 25 lessons in one day to ‘keep up’ with the competition. It takes too much time, anxiety and gives a feeling of inadequacy when all I am doing is trying to learn a language....
That's exactly the feeling I got... I don't know how the number 1 on the list manages 7000 points, but for me it went from language learning with fun to language learning with a whip. You "must" take umpteen lessons, because otherwise you'll be moved down to a lower league (which is like a teacher saying that you have to re-do 5th grade). It's rather ironic: DuoLingo gives me a "well done" when I get my daily 30 points, but unless I get 300 points a day I'll end with a "oohh... too bad, you're being moved down".
So everyone that is on Duolingo to learn a language should switch of Leagues and the Notification of being passed in a league. Then the cheating zap gamers can brag about how good a cheat they are to eat other in their native language and they sure as hell won't be able to do it in their cheat language as they haven't learnt it properly have they? Then, Duolingo could rename the League function as something like Zap Gamers Cheat League and serious learners can get on with the primary Duolingo function of learning a new language! And of course Duolingo could have a better reward for the cheats as 400 gems for a winning cheat is pathetic. How about the kind of winning scores you see in the hall of fame for Zap Gamers, say start off at 10,000,000 for third place and work upwards to a Gogol for first place. Then, once every cheating zap gamer on the planet has stupidly exposed all of the cheat pathways on Leagues, Duolingo could block them, and reintroduce Leagues for the real language learners and Zap Gamers can move on elsewhere. Bet this post lasts less time than it takes a Zap Gamer to get 10,000 points in the Zap Gamers Cheat League!
That's what was great about Clubs; they afforded exactly that cooperative experience you mention.
Oh my god, thank you so much. I've been trying to get out of this endless competition forever! I was exactly like you described, got anxious to do more and more lessons every time I got notifications especially after I reached the final leagues. When I reached the ruby and last one I thought I would get a prize or something and it would finally end, but then it just prevented me from going backwards. I feel much better now, I can keep my regular rhythm without this extra pressure. It was fun in the beginning but then it became a major bother.
Welcome out of the hamster wheel ;-) It's really way better when you can learn at your own pace and focus on improving your linguistic skills instead of just racking up points. At school, the teacher wouldn't announce: "Well, guys, Linda will be leaving us this week as she's simply too stupid to keep up the pace. Let that be a warning to you all", but that's pretty much what DuoLingo is doing.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!! I hated having to spend literally a few hours on Duolingo to actually place to advance. It made learning stressful rather than fun.
I agree. It turns out that I am a highly competitive person. When I was put into the first league it was fun and I ended up #1. The second time, I realized that I was making too many mistakes so I backed off a bit and let a very intense woman claim #1. By the third league and the notifications that I had (intentionally) dropped out of the top ten, I stopped competing so that I could learn. I wish the league thing would be replaced by something more personal and learning driven. Duolingo is a gamer's paradise.
I had been using Duolingo for about three years and completely unaware of leagues. Then one day up popped my name on the sapphire league close to the top ten. Since I read that the top league was next (gold) I got curious as to what I would be rewarded with if I could get there, so I stopped concentrating on learning and devoted my efforts to speed. I was in sixth place when the week ended but I didn't even get any praise that I could find so I just went back to the privacy setting and simply trying to learn. I hope that wasn't a mistake.
You have to turn off/unchecked "Leaderboards" under Settings (in iOS), both "Leaderboards" and "Someone/Somebody passes me" under Settings (for Android and PC).
I can't find any way to turn off Leagues in my profile (there's nothing about clubs or groups or leagues or anything on my Privacy page).
So I just used an Ad Blocker to treat Leagues as an ad, and forcibly blocked it.
I think options are great, but I don't want them forced on me. (And it's especially terrible that a lot of people who were members of groups they specifically chose somehow lost access to those groups.)
Being part of a League is hugely DEmoralizing to me and makes me not want to use the site.
Thank goodness Ad Blockers let you block things like that unwanted League thing.
I have clicked on "Unfollow Discussion" thousands, perhaps millions, of times and every time it makes me follow discussion. I think I may have to kill myself.
“Friends” are no longer friends nowadays, especially with the new leagues - they should be more aptly renamed as “target“ or "curiosity".
I've following this useful discussion since 3 months ago (Thank you for starting it). Now we know, that there is a very bad solution to solve the problem: to go private, in order to opt out of the leagues. I believe, that now we need to concentrate on convincing Duolingo programmers to change the solution to a better one. Let's go!
I'm not sure what the leagues are all about. It just popped up on my screen one day (I use a laptop for Duolingo). I'm second or third from the top on the bronze level. But have two questions about it. #1 Why does the list of people sometimes appear and other times just have the picture of the "shields" but no listings of people? I don't know how to get it to show the list of names? And #2 when I am in third place it has a lingot next to my name with a 5, when I am in second place it has a lingot next to my name with a 10. What do those mean???? It doesn't seem to be giving me lingots for reaching those positions???? Why is there no explanation of these leagues. I'm doing French and there have been A LOT of upgrades to the program recently. Some good, some bad. Thanks to anyone who can help me understand what's gong on!
Thanks for your reply. Good to know. I'll try to stay in one of those top three positions until the end of the week and see what happens.
Instead of leagues this what we should have available to us all , this discussion forum .I believe it would be more helpful than making us compete thus making it a game than a serious learning tool I liked it alot better when. I felt good about get my 40 xps a day and not having to worry about being demoted… .. Btw I am now 4th in the Silver league with 1246 pts smh And Je m'appelle , Duo ! I hear that in my sleep
Just go to privacy settings and uncheck the box next to "make my profile public".
Wow, I totally disagree with you! I racked up 1100 points this week cause I wanted to be in first place. I learned SO MUCH MORE than I would have otherwise. You know you can just ignore the leagues, and they mean nothing right? It's just for fun...
The leagues encourage you to compete and learn more, but I think they should have more things in the shop. Because I can't waste my lingots!
Im with you. It's madness. It's the GOTTA get xp's game. Counter productive.
Being sucked into the pointless league competition counter productive. Learning in that way is like hearing music without taking the time and effort to actually listen to it. Racking up points for the sake of racking up points is consumerist BS. NO, you cannot properly learn by doing a cursory once over. That approach is smug. "ok. done and done, I'm fluent". TAKE YOUR TIME. Take the time to understand. Please get rid of the leagues.