Finnish is seriously in the Incubator now
Years from now, it'll be hilarious to see a Finnish to Russian being incubated. If you don't know what I'm talking about, google White War.
I don't want to be rude, but could you explain to me why that would be hilarious?
That was a truly great war. The cold weather and the Russian superior resources put the Finns in a difficult position and they played their cards admirably. I can't say how much I am in favor of it.
Nate, work, work, work; campaign, campaign, campaign; w a i t - i n - l I n e . . . all with remarkable, collective, solidarity !
After 1000 posts on the forum, it’s there. After 2000 upvotes for the posts on the forums, it’s there. And after 3000 comments for the upvoted posts on the forum, it’s there.
Oh, that's a really interesting idea. I've never seen anyone suggest Sanskrit, nor even a language learning site offering it
@CoolKangar It is an interesting idea, no joke. I always have been fascinated by this language. Unfortunately, none of the language learning sites seem to offer this language.
I want to learn every language. That is how I intend to be most valuable to my unit.
I've been hoping for Icelandic since 2014! But I'll take Finnish for now, pretty cool language as well.
We must speak some time about all the languages you speak. I think you could potentially contribute to a little military project I'm working on...
Okay Bjorn, how do you have enough time to learn all those languages? After taking French for a couple of years in high school, I started taking Spanish as well, any tips for keeping the words from both languages straight.
What about elfish? and dwarfish? and orcish? One of duo's latest adventures was to Middle earth!
My family is Iranian so I'd love to learn it before my grandparents (the only ones who have perfect use of the language and I am in frequent contact with) pass away.
Those would be great! I would also like to see a Cherokee course. It's grammar is still mysterious to me.
Latin would be interesting. The military application could be astounding.
Amen to that. I could get by a little on Hawaiian because remembering old Don Ho records but never purchased audio material to The Dene book I once owned .
+Respect on the comment and the amount of languages you learned plus a lingot for you.
I would love to learn Icelandic! I was surprised to learn they didn't already have it here tbh
Farsi would be amazing. So I do the same for Amharic and Armenian? Haha.
We also need Telugu for English speakers. It's my native language and I only know how to speak it. I wanna learn how to read and write it
Yes to Icelandic and Persian, but also Maltese! and Georgian! and Basque! and Sami! and Occitan! and Faroese! and Elfdalian! and Scottish! and Cornish! and Manx! and Breton! and Venetian! and Neopolitan! and Chinook! and Wolof! and especially Romansch!
seriously gotta have croatian (or serbian or any of the varieties of serbo-croatian, i'm not picky)
@Riley_Emel Well, you have a good amount passed off too! I have SUCH a little amount and I started a whole three days ago!
What's the difference between an upvote and a downvote? Do they have any worth?
Upvote=the comment was correct/I agree with it Downvote=the comment is spam/incorrect Yes they have worth, the more upvotes, the higher your comment goes on the discussion, so more people see it.
Finally, this is a miracle guys! How long have students been begging for this course? Years. After Latin, Finnish surprised me here, that's very good!!!!
Portuguese is my mother tongue, but I prefer English to read, study, etc...
I love brazilian jazz and the language! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfYlt6yClfU&list=PLWcUg8Faq5GyubJFTQFXFK6WAsZxJBOex&index=2
Did you know that the Finnish state radio broadcaster made Nuntii Latini news program in Latin for several years until about two years ago.
Hawaiian is a challenge, my friend! I've studied a lot, but speaking Hawaiian is another level! If you study Hawaiian, you'll see how difficult it's it.
Honestly, this whole thing is giving me huge vibes of an April Fool's joke. The flag colors are not consistent (compared to Greek and Swedish), there's no contributors (despite the many people that have applied), and it's set to be finished in exactly one year. Perhaps that's just my anxiety speaking.
Regardless, I'm still pretty excited.
if this really is a cruel April Fool's joke I will yeet myself off a cliff
I think DL is probably making a meta-joke by choosing to start it on the first of April. The fact that they bodged in an inconsistent flag at short notice is consistent with this idea.
All new courses initially have no contributors and an arbitrary completion date.
Anyway, thank you DL for finally doing what needed to be done! As a mark of my appreciation I'm not even going to use the rest of this post to complain about the redesign and testing-out changes.
not even going to use the rest of this post to complain
How magnanimous, lol
As we say in Finland: "Aprillia, syö silliä, juo kuravettä päälle!" (let's hope this isn't the case -- I've applied to become a contributor)
I did April Fools and really hurt my boyfriend's feelings, I really should have thought it through tbh.
It really does look like something that Duolingo would do for April Fools' Day. However, it appears to be real.
I assumed the next language to be announced would be Lithuanian or Tagalog, but Icelandic seems interesting.
I think Thai is next (hopefully). We already have English for Thai speakers, it's time to do the reverse course.
If they make it to the finnish line simultaneously, the result would be a thai...
I want to learn it to perhaps try to connect Hindi to the European languages in my mind. A Farsi course would also help me in that, but after giving a look at the Hebrew course, I am really not willing to take abjads, let alone one that is not at all functional.
I think tagalog, but that might be because I live in california. In california it is the 3rd most spoken! https://www.mercurynews.com/2013/03/04/californias-top-12-languages-after-english/ Tagalog is also the most commonly spoken foreign language after Spanish in Washington and Nevada. here are others! 24/7’s Most Commonly Spoken Foreign Languages for the 10 largest states by population:
• California — Tagalog • Texas — Vietnamese • Florida — French Creole • New York — Chinese • Illinois — Polish • Pennsylvania — Chinese • Ohio — German • Georgia — Korean • North Carolina — French • Michigan — Arabic
For me learning a language that is useful, can be a top priority! I wonder what is more useful in other parts of the world?
Yes Tagalog! It would be really nice if I could learn to fluently speak it because my mom never really taught me but always speaks it at home lol
Waitaminnit! What you say about Michigan comes as a small shock. Are you saying that there are more Arabic speakers in Dearborn than there are Spanish speakers in Mexicantown in the shadow of the Ambassador Bridge between Detroit and Windsor, Ontario? ¿Será posible?
Sounds like I have to update my list of most-requested Duolingo courses. Icelandic, Lithuanian, Tagalog, and Thai are on my current list.
Duolingo already has a team fluent and literate in English and Thai. Once they finish taking a break from the incubator (which they totally deserve, especially after getting English for Thai speakers to Phase3!) they may start working on Thai for English speakers. :)
I'm thinking about Persian, Pashto, Yoruba, Bengali, Burmese, Tagalog, Thai or Bulgarian.
My Tagalog understanding is 0%, but it would be cool. I see there’s an English for Tagalog speakers course, so it shouldn’t be too hard. Also, are there any Australian or more American Native languages?
The Australian Aboriginals speak various languages in their own languages but one of their common ones would be interesting to learn. I have heard them speaking in their own language at times and of cause their languages are very different to the other languages
It probably though would be hard to find ones to put together a course of that. I got permission and stayed in one of their camps one time and many/most of them cant count money and read. Illiterate (I was shocked at the numbers of children in their camp which do not go to school, they did not see it as important).
At their community group. I was horrified when they covered the table we were eating on with fly spray thinking it was cleaner with not one of the 8-10 aboriginal women there able to read so see what the donated fly spray was. They had no idea what common products were.
Their language also may not even be a written language unless they have made it this. Traditionally they only used symbols to mark things eg there is a symbol they carve into rock faces which is their symbol for waterhole (I think it may of been a circle within a circle, I have used it to find waterholes when out camping, anyway their traditional language was in symbols).
When the British first came, there were some 900 tribes speaking around 300 different languages. I don't think many of those languages exist today, and the number of people who speak them is very low. I have lived here my entire life and have never heard anyone speak any of them.
I wonder how many speakers are literate enough to even consider making a course, because as you said, most of them can't read, let alone use a computer to construct a language course.
That being said, it would be interesting, but perhaps divisive. Which language would be chosen? And why that language? I sincerely doubt it will happen.
Which camp and languages are you talking about?
I've read books that were written in Warlpiri and Nyangumarta then translated into English, and read more books by Australian Aboriginal writers who wrote those originally in English (so, definitely literate). :)
It would be nice to have the Nordic set (maybe Faroese too! I like that Duolingo is teaching rare/ endangered languages)
Icelandic, Faroese, Elfdalian, and for good measure, at least one Sami language, probably Northern.
It's honestly hilarious that they would announce this on April Fools Day.
Nice to see you again, Lisa! I love the new lessons on the French 12 Tree and Memrise has changed a lot, too. I'm still taking university courses and love them! This semester, I'm learning about the food culture of France! I love hearing from the people I used to chat with on Duolingo! I hope you and your family are well!
FINNISH IS COMING TO DUOLINGO!
Honestly, I'm really excited for this course, especially knowing that this isn't a cruel joke.
Vai niin! Miten he hyppivät ilosta! Ymmärrän niitä.
I'm jumping for joy, too!
Så roligt att se att du fortfarande är aktiv Mari! Hoppas de är kloka nog att låta dig vara med och bidra till kursen!
Hej, Lars, och tack! Våren har ankommit och den finska björnen har vaknat! :)
Zzzz, do you or widle know how to reach Moomingirl? She's waited so long for Finnish!
No, I don't have a way contact her either. Hopefully she'll check back here before the course is done so as not to miss anything.
Mari and widle, I found Moomingirl and told her the exciting news! She'll let Annika and Stephenbal4 know because she keeps in contact with them. She sounded great. I miss talking to her on Duolingo. She said she'd be watching for a notification about the Finnish course! Unfortunately, I don't think she gets any other notifications from Duo.
Well, hello! I was trying to find your old messages on communitytranslation, but they seem to have mysteriously disappeared. Wishing you sunshine and birdsong!
I have no time to reply but just wanted to say thanks! I'll try to respond better later. :)
zanzaboonda. I use memrise and lingvist. Worddive is great too. All three are gamifications like Duo, but they emphasise different things. Forvo is great for learning about pronunciation. If you’re interested in translation, most of the folks on communitytranslation moved to Translatihan. I am not there myself but I have heard good things about it. I also have an app called Word Snack, which is not for learning languages per se, but it helps you learn which letter combinations are possible and which are not, and what sort of prefixes and suffixes are common.
I'm not a part of this conversation, lol, but your comment caught my attention. I'm very curious. Is this a learning website? If so, I'd like to learn more about it. :) I did a quick Google search but couldn't find anything.
zanzaboonda, that site is now mainly used for keeping up the social contacts formed when Duolingo still had a translation function. The actual translation has moved on to other sites. :)
Your new orange jewelry looks very nice on you - congrats! I was able to find our chat, I sent you a proper message there finally, let me know if you get any of this. Cheers :)
¡¡¡ Mari !!! Glad to see you. I bet you're out of the den and working hard! I just left my first post on CommunityTranslate. How long until Finnish is released in Beta?
Congratulations on being on the Finnish Contributor Team, Mari! I know you and the rest of the team will build an outstanding course!
Congrats on being part of the team! It's so exciting this course is finally happening. :)
jairapetyan, I could not find your post. Just in case your CT notifications are not on, I wrote you a private message. :)
duonks, glad to see you, too! Your flags have increased in numbers and levels!
I hope Afrikaans, Icelandic, and Catalan (for English speakers) appears next! Has anyone here applied to contribute for Finnish?
Yep, I already applied.
I too hope that Icelandic would come to incubator soon. It would be interesting language to learn.
i'd love Croatian, Serbian, Macedonian, Albanian, and Slovak and Slovene to come to Duo as well.
I applied maybe 4 years ago :D currently I just haven't the time. It was surprising that there were 0 contributors, usually they have a couple when a course is released in the incubator.
Probably should have waited until tomorrow to announce this, just to be on the safe side ;)
You'd better bet I'll be checking the incubator tomorrow to make sure this wasn't just a prank.
It's good Finnish is finally coming to Duo. I hope to see Thai, Persian, and the other requested languages enter the incubator.
I'm not interested in Finnish but I was/ am in Latin so congrats to all the Finnish hopefuls. That took way too long
Excuse me while I do not contain MY SCREAMS OF UTTER DELIGHT. Now I shall keep my fingers crossed for the contributors to be able to develop a very awesome course. Whatever time they might need. (Also for Icelandic to happen in a near future)
Hey this is great. This is exciting. This is fantastic. I have applied for contributing this course for two times already and apparently I haven't been chosen (It seems that no one has been chosen yet). Should I apply again or are you going to choose the first contributors using old applications?
Toivon hartaasti ettei tämä ole vain aprillipila =) Tällä pallon puoliskolla aprillipäivä meni jo, mutta kaipa se vielä jossakin jatkuu, ainakin pari tuntia.
Nevertheless, I already applied to contribute
Will we get to learn "perkele", the by-far most important word in Finnish besides vihta?
All jokes aside, I'm happy to see this isn't a cruel April Fool's joke! (Also will the flag .svg files be updated? Someone said that the current one is an off-colour PNG pic)
I think that Finnish course should introduce swear words. We have such a lovely selection of them anyway.
Finnish finally in the incubator! T-T I waited so long for this course. I am so happy! Kiitos paljon Duo.
You are the best!!!
Well, I had some fun this morning. To say "Thank you" is not enough. I would award you with a lingot for your link!
Fabulous! Thanks Duolingo, I was starting to despair of ever seeing this! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
ppl still won't belive you................... just give it a rest til 2morrow and ppl will belive it
Señores, el Catalán no es un milagro. Entiendo Catalán muy bien a pesar de que haya aprendido solamente Español. Decidme por favor que opinéis del Vasco? Este es un verdadero milagro! Quiero ver un curso de Vasco aquí. Estoy enamorado de los idiomas difíciles.
Nunca iré parar de misturar español con portugués y ser penalizado por eso (esto? ello?!). Demasiado cercano para que haya confuerto. :/
Creo que no hayan cursos que enfocan en las diferencias entre el portugués y el español, al invés de la lengua entera (que ya conosco).
@isnottogive I don't fear mixing Catalan with Spanish, for I already mix Spanish and Portuguese. I find the differences from Catalan to the other two very characteristic. Spanish is much, much closer to Portuguese.
Native spanish speaker here: I think you are doing nicely so far!
I would suggest reviewing a bit further Spanish though, before you ever get to Catalan because they are really really similar (like I can understand when my friends or some politicians speak it and my knowledge of it is practically non-existant) and can somewhat mixed too.
@blurflux I think the three, from my own experience, are really close (specially if you go with Spanish from Spain, which is where I am from), but still, good luck on your endeavour!
When I went to the DL site on April 2nd, the first thing I checked was the incubator to see whether Finnish was still there.
Whooohooo!!!! Now THAT is what I call good news! :D :D :D Finnish is what I was originally looking for when I came here (though I liked the site enough to stick around for the other languages). I think duolingo's method is exactly what my stagnating Finnish needs to give it a boost towards fluency (rather than just slowly staggering through texts).
Since when does Duolingo Plus include access to additional courses and a way to opt out of the new theme?
YES!!!! I have wanted to learn Finnish so I can speak my exchange student's language. I can't wait!
Finnish? This is clearly the most awesome thing that has happened on Duolingo in a while!
I just moved to Finland last month. Would love to test the beta once it's out!
Yep... that means this is really happening. Now THIS, this is EPIC.
When I was little I always dreamed of speaking Finnish! I'll have to give it a try!
I hope next they give Icelandic or Scottish Gaelic. I come from a small family who speaks Gaelic. If Scottish Gaelic pops up I will contribute. I also would like to see Icelandic up there for a few reasons including the fact that it has some letters that were dropped from the original English alphabet
I definitely agree on both, Icelandic would be a nice way to complete the Nordic languages, and I love all Celtic languages, so having Scottish Gaelic here would be amazing
finnpojke, if you can (have time, etc.), please consider becoming a contributor for the finnish course! here is a lingot bribe!
A good April Fool's joke would be to have the course teach the different qualities of Finnish conversational silence.
Any idea how long it usually takes to get the initial contributors selected and Phase 1 on its way? There must be a ton of old and new applications to sift through.
I can't wait! This is one language I've always wanted to speak, and Duolingo should help give me a good start with it!
Awesome. Finnish is a very exotic and interesting language and I will be very happy when it's finally done.
I don't speak a word of Finnish, but I've seen comments from people who do and have applied, so I guess it won't be long till it's more than zero :)
I was a contributor for a week and a half before my name showed up on the incubator page (for Latin). They might have already interviewed three or four people and we wouldn't know.
You can't fool me. Even if this stays up, gets fully developed, and comes available for everyone to use, and people start learning Finnish, I will still believe it is an April Fools joke!
Great. It's exactly what I wanted. Finland is the country I most want to go to again.
Yes! I hope to become a contributor, I applied already. Finally a proper use for being a native Finn.
OMG! i'm hopefully going abroad to helsinki and ive been looking for finnish courses so i can learn to talk to my best friend in her native language, if this happens, im gonna lose it! :DDDD
tealvie, We are, yes!, in the incubator, with many, many, many contributors! :)))
Is Cantonese your native language? So, fill the form here:
I don't know where are you living. If you're in Hong Kong you can find other enthusiasts and invite them to join the contribution to Cantonese. If you're in Australia maybe you know other members of Cantonese community there, then invite them. The more contributors will join the more chances are for Cantonese to go to the Incubator. Though it does not guarantee 100% success. I don't know what makes Duolingo to decide if the language will be in the Incubator.
Old Norse! I hope the Latin course means they will make more "dead" languages. Would love to see Ancient Greek or Olde English!
Would love to see a Maltese course, it's a very interesting language.
Excited for learning finnish :P
Yes, I would like getting to know Maltese, too. It's like Arabic, but contains many Italian and English words. Latin alphabet is its advantage, too.
Same, until then there's the teach yourself book, which I used, but not much past that sadly. At least that I'm aware of.
There's also this (followed by this) and this (there's also a workbook to go with that); they are all out of print, but so is the TY book (which, itself, leaves a great deal to be desired, such as nowhere covering how to say 'hello'). Scour the internet for a while and I'm sure you'll be able to track down copies at a reasonable price.
Two working weeks has gone and still no contributors. Does anyone know how much time it usually takes before they choose the first contributors?
Set up a secret second account, and learn on the sly. Don't get caught, its a serious crime.
That is horrible. No one should limit anyone. Besides, you only have two languages, and it isn't due until 2020.
I wish I had the time to contribute. Do these have strict deadlines? How taxing could it get? I wouldn't want to lose sleep over volunteering to DL.
I would apply to become a contributor (Finnish is my native language), but I don't have the time required.
I don't really have the time either but I'm making the time needed. Too excited to miss this.
I think it would be good to apply (if you really want to contribute) even if you can't be very active. The more there are contributors, the sooner the course will be finnished.
Little help is still help
Well, it's four days later now... but I did send an application. It was too tempting, and I can always spend less time on unimportant things.
Wow, I still can't believe it! I can say that I've been waiting for that course for more than 10% of my lifetime and now it's finally happening! :D
OMG, I've been waiting for this and now it's FINALLY HAPPENING!! That seriously made my day, lol.
I had pretty much given up on this ever happening. Decided to check discussion today out of old habit, and then there is this post... The hype is real!!
If this is a joke I will Finnish them!! ~KD
"There are no great limits to growth because there are no limits of human intelligence, imagination, and wonder." -Ronald Reagan
If I buy will you fly?
eta What does a girl have to do to get a new decal around here? And how is it working? These new levels are even nuttier than before. Ooh and guck mal, different orders in consecutive posts.
You know what? I don't really care that much about Duo's rather stilted French. Where's my Hawaiian flag?
I've seen the German one. It has pigs and sexism! :-D
(ooh, sexist racist French tree too!)
29 completed trees! A level 24, a level 23, a level 22, a level 21, a level 20, and a level 17. Tu eres mi heroe.
Jah, lisage eesti ja islandi, palun.
Já, verið svo góður, leggjið saman eistneska og íslensku.
yes! just a i was about to make a post asking if Finnish was to come to the site :D
This is exciting news. Perhaps Luis' mom changed her mind. https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/6bxr2v/i_am_luis_von_ahn_coinventor_of_captcha_recaptcha/
My prediction for next languages: Farsi, Thai, maybe then Icelandic and Tagalog. Perhaps Pashtu, Dari, Gujarati, Serbo-Croat and Cantonese? Basque, Cornish and Old English would be awesome.
Great, now can we get Yiddish moving along! I'm learning German to prepare myself in the meantime!
I'd like to see the following as well: Kalaallisut Estonian Icelandic Mirandese Faroese Slovak
Today I thought I wanted to learn Finnish but it was not on the course list. So glad to see this!
Wonderful news! I've lived outside of Finland now for 30 years and really need to brush up.
I literally came to forums just to see if there was a Finnish course coming out, and this was the first thing I saw! Holy cow I am hyped!
(Shoutouts to those who actually get it without looking it up)
This used to be an April Fools joke, now just another april fools but not joke anymore
People should realise that it’s not the Duolingo team that makes the courses, it’s us, the people who make them. So stop complaining to the Duolingo team
Let's be honest it takes a while to Duo to get a language in here I think what they should have a list of them run through the community of people and if there are 2 or more people who are willing they should be able to start making a course for that language.
I am surprised Navajo made before other languages like Arabic etc. But it is the rate of the creators that is slowing that lesson down
It's my understanding that the Navajo course (and likewise Hawaiian) is significantly shorter than the others, as it was developed quickly to be released for Indigenous Peoples' Day on the 8th of October last year. I expect they'll both have updated trees at some point.
That's awesome! I'd be truly delighted if they released Old English or any other more exotic and/or dead languages. I mean, if Latin made it, why not Gothic?
Nate, There are many, many, many contributors ready to begin working on the Incubator phase !