Duo - please, PLEASE give us an option to opt out of the redesign.
Exactly the title. That's it. That's all I want. This new design is ridiculously cartoony, the insanely high contrast and the hard-to-read font are legitimately straining my eyes, and it's generally kind of an eyesore. Please, I know the likelihood of this happening is incredibly low, but at the very least, just give us the option to opt out of the redesign. Whether it's by a toggle in settings, or like what Reddit did with old.reddit.com, or heck, both, just let us have the old design back if we want it.
I second this request. Honestly, my eyes are in so much pain with this new design. Please bring back the old design. Please.
Caroline, it's the opposite of me. I think it looks very nice, but my eyes are in pain.
Hasn't anybody tried using the Dark Reader extension on Chrome?
If you're using Chrome, Dark Reader automatically darkens bright, and white containers and backgrounds on webpages. You can also select it to be just for Duolingo (or the site you're adjusting it for). Additionally, there're more options for dynamic adjustments/static... I suggest actually taking a look at Dark Reader before delving too deep into the settings...!
Best of luck!
Today it looked more like bubbles than strait lines.I like that,so I agree with you!
How you said that it is "kinda little kid-ish" is exactly what the designers were going for. They want to avoid making duolingo look like a textbook and more like a game, and a casual game, at most. Plus, with Duolingo for Educators being a significant amount of their usage, they have to take that factor into it, due to children using it, which may be why it is childish, because children are using it.
I would say that rather than gamification this was an attempt to cater to a younger user base, school children in this case.
Exactly. I have a feeling that some future updates are going to start to cater more to Duolingo for Educators. The real question is, how will they?
They could throw in 4 skins to choose from. the old design, the old design dark theme, the new design, the new design dark theme. Kinda like how Discord has light theme and dark theme and you can choose.
Then there's another reason to give us the option, if the update was made to appease to children, how about still keep the design us older people like? Now everyone's happy, can't even go wrong with that
I find it easier to look at the website during a brighter time of day, but that is still not enough.
I literally just went outside with my laptop because the weather is very nice and sunny, and thought "huh, the screen is actually bearable out here."
Please fire your graphic designer. It's just horrible to look at. Sorry. I wish I could be more constructive, but the new design is really bad.
Edit: Down vote me all you want. This goes beyond personal preference. I can't look at this. I'm out. It's hard to read and after three lessons I just can't look at it. That's as constructive as I can be - there is no way I could sit in front of that screen and do more than a couple of lessons. Towards the end of the first lesson I was pushing just to be done with it. I did a second but could barely concentrate. By the third I just wanted to quit.
---your graphic designer.
Let's have compassion. To me it's like watching kids frolicking about in the sun.
What do you do when their parents smile away not caring about UV rays, saying "What melanoma? Such a melodrama ! It doesn't happen to us (YET)".
We can't fire either kids or parents, who will continue even if fired, but we can do our part of giving the info.]
I got it just 20 minutes ago - did a couple of practices and now I am going out. My eyes hurt!
P.S. I don't mind the design itself. It's the colours and the contrast that hurts that much. Just go back to the old colours - the new design itself could stay. We'll get used to it, but not to the colours.
The new design is way too childish in my opinion, and I would say most people who use this app are older anyway, so please help change the design back!
I've notice every redesign gets worse and that includes the trees. It just keeps getting worse. They started out with something awesome. Now if you want to go from 3rd to 4th level you have to answer 30 basic lessons on each circle that's not including much if any new vocabulary and it's not worth the time. Way too many circles now. It's not a smart change. It's gone from great to good to ok to awful. Don't fire the designer get rid of the entire design department. They're sinking the product. And, STILL NO LATIN. But we've had Klingon for years. This is beyond bad decisions. Go update your tree. Level 3 to 4 should eliminate 99 percent of you with the never ending redundancy. I'll bet nobody new can complete a tree without there suddenly appearing 50 percent more circles to complete and losing all progress before they finish what they started. Horrible duo. Horrible.
Well, a lot of things that grinds my gears about this comment. The design is meant to look childish on purpose. On this website, there are a lot of kids and teenagers on this website, especially with Duolingo for Educators being a thing. For that, they need to get the attention of the kids, therefore the design being childish. Having a lot of circles in each lesson is most likely intentional. 20 lessons might be enough to remember it now, but once you wait 3 weeks and come back to it, you will most likely forget, hence the large amount. You do not have to get level 5 on a lesson before moving on, you can keep going until you fully memorize it. Also, about Latin, think of it from the company's perspective. Would we rather have a dead language only people in select college classes have, or a widely known constructed language from a movie franchise with millions of fans? Of course, the latter. But Latin is being made in the incubator, and when a language is rushed to completion, you end up with a bare skill tree. It sounds like you are learning the language for the short-term, even though that is obviously not the case. But, a small amount of people ever consider the company's view onto this. But hey, complain that the redundancy should be deleted because it is boring and avoid that repetition is a key component to learning a language.
I myself am a teenager and I absolutely despise the new design. It makes my eyes hurt and it's distracting as hell. There really should be an option to choose between this and the old design because I really loved the old one, and this one looks extremely ugly to me. And yeah, this does get my attention, but not in a good way at all. Instead of being interested, I'm just asking myself ''Who thought THIS was a good idea???'' I don't think any sane person would like this design, it makes me want to puke. I really don't know who would find this appealing.
Since Duolingo is a free language learning service, I don't think we should criticize them so harshly. Dissent is different than uncontrolled rage.
This is not uncontrolled rage. I'm a systems engineer giving an accurate assessment and I'm a paid subscriber. I've watched it descend. Start a new tree, see if you can get through the first time without some major change wiping out all of your progress and giving you 50 percent more circles - most redundant. Good luck. If you want to get through all levels beyond level 2 in a tree, it's unusable already. Try it!
Huh, all I have to do is look in the mirror. (lol, I'm not totally serious).
I am not a fan but let me give some specific feedback.
The new "gold" color is much too intense. It washes out on the screen. The old gold was better.
The font is too heavy on a desktop screen. I don't mind it on a phone where the screen is smaller but if they have to be the same then compromise with something lighter.
The buttons don't look like buttons. It's trying to create a drop shadow below the button face but the effect doesn't work at all. Part of it is because the shadow-inducing light source seems to be coming from almost directly above rather than top-left which has been the standard for the last 25 years of web design.
The redesign did not fix the functional problem where the page seems to be loaded, you start interacting with it, and it reloads, setting the scroll position to the top. Please pause the rearranging for now and focus on functional issues.
I use the Duo website on my phone and it's awful. I don't know if the app would be okay, but the phone itself isn't any help.
I agree that I'd rather see fixing of functional issues.
The font is the main reason why I love the redesign. It's well readable and gives the site a unique feel, two things the old font did worse.
The buttons. You definitely have a point there, if you say it's unusual. I don't know if it's important to "conform" to someone else's design. I'm sure that's a thing people will be able to get used to. At least they are functional.
Hi, I'm not one who down arrowed you.
Intuitiveness is part of ease of use which is important in good design. We shouldn't have to notice the design. A good site draws you in for it's purpose - language learning in this case. People who can't look at it have lost the functionality entirely. I feel for them. A good resource gone.
I also feel for people like me who recognize that changes have made other things unusable. I have to reset all my trees to 0. there is no other way to continue. Try getting through any circle at level 3. Now imagine that experience to be every circle since you turned them all to level 2. It's not doable for 99% of us. It's just massively redundant with nearly nothing new. The user can't get out of it without going back to 0 where there was useful material and a practical amount of redundancy. They added 30-50% more circles of total redundancy to get through with this change.
Hi there! I'd be the last person to tell anyone they'd have to be fine with changes that affects their experience. In fact, if you took a look at the announcement-thread, you'd be able to find that I was suspicious they'd attempt to sneak in some changes into the live version of the website that have been trialed on the mobile version. Unpopular features that alter the functionality quite a bit. Now we didn't get these here and that's something I'm happy about. Now people are also complaining a lot about the website design changes. This criticism is as valid and if someone shares their opinion, I'll treat them respectfully. However, I'll also add my opinion and view on the matter and in this case I disagree. Of course it's a matter of taste and neither right or wrong to find the new design "cute" or "ugly". My main point is that the changes are objectively rather minor and the way some people react to that is out of proportion. "The new colours are so bright, it's like a heat ray straight out of my screen, burning out my eyes. It affects my daily life to the point where I become dysfunctional and how is it that noone ever thinks about the children? The brutal new imagery will cause traumatization!" Yeah, I don't mean you, but please, scroll through this page, you'll see what I mean. The colour scheme is virtually unchanged, compared to the old design, by the way.
Now, reading your reply, I'm a bit wary, there might have been a functional change that I didn't notice yet. I've done my lessons daily, but I haven't noticed anything off with the level 3+ lessons. Is there a thread or anything explaining what exactly is going on and the issue?
OH, about the downvoting: Yes, no, never worry about that. Not with me, at least. I post, I get arrows under my post people can play with. That's how things work. A lot of people decide to never expose themselves to this "danger", by just never showing their faces, yet making heavy use of the arrow clicking instead. If someone disagrees with me, please feel free to downvote me as heavily as you can. You won't even have to worry this might peer pressure me into only voicing popular opinions in the future.
Going on like what? I asked you what's the issue with the third circle, because I don't notice a difference myself. If the functionality is somehow altered in a bad way (what you hinted at before) I'd support asking duo to revert this.
Nono, I understood you didn't give me a down arrow. You said so. I wanted to point out that I don't care. Not only to you, but also to the others that read my posting, because they do. For everyone posting, there are several others, sitting in the shadows. Lurkers only there to click arrows, afraid to post, because then others could click their arrows.
Just got switched over to it overnight. It is absolutely terrible. Visually, not appealing at all. Functionally, significantly worse on a computer monitor. I have no idea what they were thinking, I don't see how it is an improvement in any dimension. It sort of reminds me of bad late '90's website design.
I am confused on your comment, how is it "worse" on a computer monitor? Visual design, harder to load, doesn't fit dimensions, or something else?
I like cartoons but it feels like my eyes are burning out of my skull.
Please make it stop Duo. I do not want to go blind just to learn German.
I agree completely! I've never complained about any of the other changes, after all DuoLingo is free, but this is just ridiculous. I cannot fathom the reasoning behind this new design, unless they want everyone over the age of 12 to leave the site! I lost a 936 day streak a while ago, and to be honest, now I'm just not inclined to start again. Pity, I like the way DuoLingo works, but the way it looks now overshadows its benefits. (I use 'overshadows' with irony, considering you need night shades for the current glare!) At least there's still Memrise, Busuu, EDX, Futurelearn, Parlate, Manu.... gosh, so many other options, you would think DuoLingo wasn't aware they have competition. Hopefully they get the message that this design is just awful and a huge mistake.
over the age of 12
The under 12 and the 'I can see, there's no problem' likely will sooner or later have their vision wrecked, both from glare or, even if using workarounds, from faint tiny fonts. Some of the latter commenters may wither later from an Empathy Deficiency Syndrome <-- I'm joking playing with words.
need night shades for the current glare!
during daytime too! To illustrate perhaps it's like designing shoes at EXTREME large and expecting most people to hop around with stuffing. It's like flood lighting your bedroom and expecting you to bind your eyes to sleep. Some comments are like, if you don't like it -leave; That syndrome again.
There is a solution to the size of the font. You can just use the zoom on the computer to make the text bigger. An option would be better, but for now, there is a way to fix the text and nobody has been using it.
Huh. Whenever I zoom, it applies to the current website only. I have multiple websites set on different magnifications. Changing one does not affect the others. Maybe this is a setting you can adjust somewhere?
Don't get me wrong, the new font and graphics are still garbage. You can improve it only so much through magnification and extensions!
From what it looks like, you aren't upset about the new design because of it's looks, you are upset because of the nostalgia. Maybe try it for a few weeks and you may get back into it.
I am supporting this necessary request. I cannot focus on the text, it is too shiny that it drives my attention away. Also I don´t think that adding a user-defined (or user selected) color theme is that hard for a site as complicated and professional as Duolingo.
So please Duo, take this thread under serious consideration.
I just received it a few hours ago and it's horrible. I installed a Chrome extension to change font and I use Windows' "Night Light" to make the screen yellow so it's easier on the eyes.
Although I don't like it in general, it is the grey on grey for the accented characters which is my main problem. I really have difficulty in reading which one is which.
This new design is a bit much, in my opinion. The bright colours could be seizure-inducing for some.
It's just a matter of time until the first casualties are registered! This is so utterly different from what the colour selection has been! Or wait... is it?
Like every modern website update, it's a direct downgrade:
- Background made brighter for no reason, it's harder on the eyes
- Can't select word card options with numbers anymore
- When typing words in, their display lags behind key input
- BIG ONE: Can't view word hints just by hovering, have to click it
- Not only that, but you have to click back on the word to make the pop-up disappear
- Sometimes can't even use Enter after typing to check the answer
How did someone consciously made things require more clicks or mouse movement? That's breaking UX design rule #1. WTF.
Although I don´t like it and find the colors quite horrible, the new design personally doesn´t affect me. BUT when there are so many people having serious problems with it, Duolingo should consider going back to the former design, which apparently didn´t cause any problems. I don´t know what necessity there was for having a new design? - Better use the time/ressources to fix other items! So what could you lose going back to the former design for the sake of a part of the community, when the other part doesn´t care about it. I found only a few comments favouring the new one, and I guess that most of us don´t care, so take the chance to make feel better those who do!
An option to pick which design would be brilliant, because the old design was nice and I really got used to it
I'm seriously never coming back to this site. Website designers trying to justify their jobs with pointless changes. It was just a matter of time before this site also decided to f*** itself over for no reason.
I feel like I'm playing mariokart. Why not just change the font to comic sans while you're at it?
Well, well. This was done intentionally? So all of the requests to change it back will be summarily ignored. They work "hard" on this change for the sake of change? They even found a way to make the owl look like a goldfish that's about to puke. They managed to dumb down the look of the site even more than it already was at. What would be the point of that?
"Visual changes tend to elicit passionate responses, and we expect this to be no different"
They knew it would piss people off and they did it anyway???? WTF
Duolingo in about a year.... Two years....
Tragically it's already worst than this now.
The Thundercats called. They want their "hair streak" back.
Good web page design/layout should facilitate the functionality – not impede it. This new design discourages use of Duolingo. I encourage the designers to remedy this problem. The current redesign is hard on the eyes: the white vastness is like going for a walk on a cold sunny day after a fresh snowfall. The light grey text on a bright white background is a particular abomination.
I agree on giving users an op out, the design changes they made to the forum are horrible, the font hurts my eyes and just gives me a headache, I think they really need to rethink the deisgn changes that have been made.
yes, me too. I am straining my eyes trying to pick out the accented letters in the pale grey and I am getting them wrong because I just can't see the accents in the pale grey.
Yes, please. It was an attractive, tasteful design before. Now, it is a frightfully hideous combination. I am not sure why it needed an 'improvement'.
Unless of course, the design/aethestic crew were thinking: 'you know, we have a handsome website, we just can't go on like that'....
Well, they sure as heck fixed that.
I am now much less likely to use Duolingo.
I agree. I'm all for change, but this new design isn't great. The contrast is simply too high, and it strains my eyes. I can also handle cartoony, but the new gold is WAY too bright. The overall design makes me want to spend less time on the desktop version, which is a shame since it was my preferred way of using Duolingo.
Another thing. Level progress isn't intuitive anymore. In the old version, you'd complete a level at the top of the circle which makes a ton of sense. That's because our progress within a level mimicked a watch. Or any kind of dial for volume or light. But it's strange to complete a given level at the four o'clock position, don't you think? I sort of turn my head to the side and have to reimagine the way every other similar volume graph has ever worked. And with the new contrast and colors, this makes it even more confusing to actually see what level you're at.
I don't know if you can give us a mirror version of the old site, but please consider our comments since we love this platform and clearly have some pretty strong opinions about the way it has changed.
I don't know about the options, but the new design is a big no-no. I don't even have eye problems! This is the first website that has made me install a browser extension to make it more painless to look at. This is a sign and a very bad one. They need to either tweak the new design or go back to the old one altogether. We get it guys, you tried something, it didn't work out, it happens to the best of us. We won't be complaining, just make the website painless to look at again.
I've just done one practice and given up with a headache. Horrible font, accented characters all but unreadable.
My Duo completion trophy for Greek used to have olive branches coming out of the ears and a Greek flag around his neck. Now he's just a generic gold bird. I am sad.
awww... I wish it was still like that. I personally like it when the Duo's are different or personalized. That honestly really sucks. I am also sad. :(
I just recently joined Duo and was loving it. I was spending too much time on it, but this redesign is fixing that. I can barely get through a lesson. Please do something about the brightness.
Not critical, but the circle measuring progress through the level starting at the crown is annoying me. I liked it better starting at 12 o'clock. I realize this is a minor detail and a matter of preference. I can live with it, but please fix the brightness.
I didn't have a lot of experience with the old design, but it never struck me as odd. The new design, particularly the colors, are absolutely eye-straining. The new font MAY be bolder and should be easier to read, but the backdrop of the rest of the user interface is glaringly hostile. Colors appear washed out or faded or over-exposed. At first I thought my video card was acting up.
There have been complaints that the accents were hard to distinguish before. In the new UI, they light gray on white special charaters on the diagram is NOT an improvement. I find myself squinting.
Devs, you need to earnestly re-evaluate this new User Interface. You don't have to go back to the old, and DO NOT succumb to calls for a gamer-black UI. But fix the current issues -- PRONTO! I cannot put in as much screen time as I've before and it hurts.
I'll let you in on a little secret: you can put in the bare minimum of practice each day to maintain a streak. Need to practice? The hardest part is getting started. Commit to doing a single lesson or review. You can do it! If you finish your lesson and feel like you can handle more, keep going! If not, then at least you fulfilled your daily commitment.
I try to approach most things in life with this similar concept in mind. Overcome inertia, and it will all add up in the end. Some days will be more productive than others, and that's okay as long as you try every day. Have a lingot. ¡Buena suerte!
For me, practicing is a daily ritual. I put incredibly low effort in but walk away with satisfaction. Well, at least, until the blinding white light made me consider if perhaps I should stop the ritual.
Seconding what acopperlily said, though, conquer the inertia.
Someone gets it! Great job, by the way.
Have you tried any dark mode extensions? I'm using Dark Reader on Firefox, and it's pretty customizable. It's not perfect, but you can get rid of that blinding white and tone down the contrast. Keep the ritual alive!
I hadn't been on Duo for a month and I thought I'd opened the wrong the page. What the hell is that???? It is just horrible
I second to opt out of the redesign. Looks like Legoland to me (sorry designers) and readability much diminished here. Laptop.
YES, thank you for posting this. I have vision issues and this new condensed high-contrast layout is giving me such a headache. I'd hate to stop using Duolingo because it was negatively impacting my health.
Agreed! I just re-joined Duo recently all excited to learn languages again, and just near the end of my first week, this redesign. I had no attachment to the old design but this new one is really hard on the eyes. To the point that its headache inducing at times. I used my first Streak Freeze yesterday because I just couldn't make it through reading all the lessons. Its not fun anymore...
please give an option to have the old design back. The new is unpleasant to look at.
Duo, please go back to the old design, or allow users to opt out of the new design. It's not an aesthetic issue, it's a medical issue. Some people will simply not be able to work with Duolingo any more. And that would be a shame, because it's been such a wonderful educational tool. If you're not sure what the general opinion is, please let people vote.
Install Stylus https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stylus/clngdbkpkpeebahjckkjfobafhncgmne then keep an eye on out here https://userstyles.org/styles/browse/duolingo . The old themes do sort of work on the redesign but not well but they should be updated soon.
The old design was way better! Why can't Duolingo have a setting that u can change the look?
Utterly atrocious redesign of the interface. This is enough for me to stop using Duolingo completely tbh. I mean do your design teams not comprehend basic systems design best practice? Or Human Computer Interface principles?
This breaks quite a few of those for starters. Not giving us an opt out and straining our eyes is another.
Do you want to be sued for the eye strain your poor design is causing people? I would suggest you reset the design if not.
Ive been on here 5 minutes and I am about to have to leave. This is going to make it impossible now to complete my studies. Congrats Duolingo, how to monumentally mess up a good thing. :(
Thank you, CbfRideruk. Duolingo please hear this.
. . . the eye strain your poor design is causing people
. . . the eye strain your poor design is causing people
. . . the eye strain your poor design is causing people
I've already commented, but, after a few days of this, I feel this necessary to say... I love Duolingo, and almost always go more than the daily goal. But I find myself doing my bare minimum daily goal just to be done with it, because this new design hurts my eyes so much. I simply don't even want to use this site anymore, opting for more traditional learning practices. And that sucks, because I love this service, and have paid a fair bit towards it. Please, give us an option to opt out of this design. This design is the sole reason I do not use Mobile, and the Mobile design on PC just makes it look even WORSE.
Totally agree. Too bright, too hard to read the alternate characters. Did anyone beta test this revision? Was there any feedback? Was anyone listening? Is anyone listening now?
i think the main problem with the new design is the OVER GLOWING colors, if the staff will reduce the glowing they'll solve the problem AND will get to keep the new design.
You're right. I could forgive the flat, ugly graphics if only the colors wouldn't violently pierce my retinas.
I agree, the new look is awful, it terribly hurt my eyes and looks so childish. Please give a chance to change to the old look, because it discourages from learning.
Yes I agree, it is hard on the eyes, please give the option to have the "classic" look. The upgrade is a down grade!
So bad new look. I cant read well, the colours are to bad. Are you serious, or it is just late first April day?
I get that everyone is trying to be minimalistic in their design nowadays, but if nothing, take good colors, my eyes really hurt from looking at this
This design kinda reminds me of that Dr. Steimann's rant in Bioshock - "Ugly! Ugly! UGLYYYYY!!" =^..^=
No, really. What happened to colors and fonts? When I first saw it, I thought it was me. Maybe some sort of vision impairment developed in a nanosecond. But no, it's just this new design. What's this tendency to change everything everywhere? You use a site, you like its design then... they IMPROVE it. If it's working, keep yer bloody paws off! Don't fix something that wasn't broken in the first place.
It think this is relevant to practising language use, to express. We can have a collection! And dramatic words are great for language exercises (and stress relief). Oh beloved eyes? My precious? Tear-filled? Tearful? 'Tearing' is interesting, to refer to tears falling or something like fabric pulling apart. :-D
I agree. The new design is too white, too bright, has too much contrast. It hurts my eyes and makes me not want to use the website anymore.
When I tried the new design on my phone it looked fine, but the colors are way too bright on my computer. It is better during the day, but at night my eyes really start to hurt. I don't like the design, but I think I will get used to it, but the colors are a serious problem, especially the extremely bright yellow - looking at my tree has actually become painful! The font is also a little bit harder to read, at least for me.
Because staring at a bright white screen for hours on end was not bad enough for your eyes, bright neon yellow icons needed to be embedded' to improve the look'.
I just got the new look applied to the forum today (4/4/2019). I got the new look on the rest of the website about a week ago. The forum looks awful with the new look. It would look a lot better with a dark theme, but I still think that the old look is better.
I have been using Duolingo daily for half a year now. One of the reasons why I liked it so much was the design and the font. Please kindly consider changing it back to how it was.
I've been using it for 10 months or so. Yes - it was so peaceful :-((((((((
I have black b ackground and grey writing . Can't read the course and in tears here. No idea how to sort it out . No idea if this is even readable or wil lpost.
DawnBorn I hope and am quite sure someone can sort this out for you. If not on this thread please consider posting on TroubleShooting. If still no joy please try Bug Report?
Some setting or extensions can help (but playing with these sometimes has a small risk of ending up with black on black and a job to revert).
It's hideous, frankly. The other style was so much more pleasing to the eye. It's like switching from a Macintosh to Windows 3.1 in the mid-1990s -- just flat, garish, and cheap-looking
I will admit that this is my initial impression; I may mellow. But at the moment, I really really do not like the new look. Duolingo had a really nice aesthetic with its geometric images before, playful and friendly, and also consistent enough not to be embarrassed when someone sees me using the site. The new images are just clownish, and (as everyone else is saying) the garishness of the colours just makes it a ton worse. The old style was fine -- why break something that didn't need fixing?!
I'm learning german and I would also like to add that the character ß looked much better in the old font. If you could perhaps add that version to this font instead.
The Japanese course characters in the notes just show up as question marks ever since this update was made. Also, I have a headache so I'm going to stick to Memrise until they fix this.
I know it is not my internet connection but since the upgrade there is a huge pregnant pause before that condescending trumpet blare after each lesson ends and the next begins.
It takes a few more seconds to load the next lesson.
Hey duolingo programers, instead of using your time changing the graphics, why don't you use your time to improve the language programs themselves? Add some more vocabulary words, that can't possibly be that difficult to do. Or if your not qualified to improve the language programs, you could at least add some more shop items. What you guys did with the graphics seems like a waste of time, it doesn't look better, it just looks different.
Agreed, please Duo, give us some options here. my eyes are hurting from the new design.
Agreed. The new design is very ugly and too childish. I can't take it seriously as a credible source to learn new languages. It looks like something from a little kids game. The font is t e r r i b l e and I can't stand it. The new look is really getting in my way of learning. Duo's look is at least a little cute, I'll give it that. We really need to change it back, or at least give us the option to switch. :( #OldLookWeMissYou (hashtag I made up on the fly XD)
Absolutely agreed. I was hoping it wouldn't affect the story pages but it hit those too on my account today. It's so hard and painful to read. I'm not keen on the new cartoonier design, but this goes far beyond that, it's actually really hard to use.
Would perhaps a site version and an app version be possible, if it looks better on phones? It's awful on a laptop.
As a person who spends a lot of time in front of bright colors in front of a computer I could recommend some ways to help out your eye strain if your request falls on deaf ears -The 20/20/20 method For every 20 minutes look at something 20 feet away for 20 seconds -Lower your brightness and contrast - Take breaks (this is good for studying in general)
yes, the best I can get it as close back to the old design is zooming out on google chrome to 90% instead of 100%, and then dimming my computer to brightness 0%. That way I can stand it and it doesn't hurt my eyes as bad.
I thought it was my imagination, but I too can attest that the design was a physical strain on the eyes. I do my language learning at night and it really flooded out my eyes.
Yes please. This new design is insanely painful for me and I am certain that if I am looking at it too long it will trigger a migraine. I came here to learn a language not risk my healt. :}
My biggest problem with the new design: With some exercises, where I have to choose the words from the word bank, there is not enough place for all the words and some o the words are hidden. I have to scaling down the whole window to about 70% to see all the words. But then the letters get so small that I can't read them anymore. I have a laptop screan with a very big resolution. Maybe that makes things worse.
The font is TOO SMALL. Hello, Hola, Oi, Salut, can you please make an option for a larger font, Duo?
Another thought, which I think deserves serious consideration by the Duo developers: the old design's consistency gave it an instant recognisability. I, and I'm sure many many others, thought "Duo" the moment I looked at those geometric designs. I think of them as a sort of trademark. If Duo were to do adverts, the old style would be a major asset for brand recognition. The new designs don't have that. They're kind of anonymous, and I don't see them developing the same sort of distinctively "Duo" feel that the old ones had.
I think Duolingo doesn't care about what we think about the new design. May be if there was an alternative Open Source project....
Gonna have to add that I also really do not like anything about the new look. Please give us the option to use the old one.
i too wish for an option out of this new nightmare design! :S feeling guilty for it since someone definitelly worked hard to make the new design but oh lord, if only it didn't look so awful compared to the old one. :(
It looks a looot less pleasant than before and also less iconic. A very bad move that was unnecessary, when they could finally have re-added forum notifications, user chat or practice recommendations.
I'm one of the users who finds the new layout painfully bright. After looking at both the old and new layouts side by side in another discussion, I think that simply changing the background to the previous color would help me tremendously. Apparently, it was a faint gray, even though I had always perceived it as white
Agreed. My eyes aren't a huge fan of this, and this design is kind of the reason I don't use mobile. It just isn't visually appearing; a mobile layout on a Desktop doesn't work. This is not a phone, we don't need that design here. Nor do we need everything to be so circular and rounded, though I get why you did it.
i stopped using mobile due to the redesign.. i should've seen it coming. please stop.give us an opt out
Yes, I loved the soft colours of the old one. The font as well, but at least the colour...I do my Duolingo lessons on a desktop, not on a phone, and the white background is GLARING. Really offputting. Used to be a calm place. :-(
I can't access all the words in my word bank for some of my Japanese activities so I would appreciate the ability to switch back to the old design for that reason
I think that the rollout should have been more slow and gradual. It feels like getting slammed with a load of bricks at once. Things will tide over eventually, but it seems a little rushed.
I cut my screen brightness in half and that helped a little. I think a less white background would solve the problem some of us seem to be having. Eye ease green?
I'm fine with it as long as they change the fonts for better readability and add a night mode if possible
With the new 'balloon/cartoon' look to the site, it is no longer feasible to use the site on 100% sizing, while using the word bank. I have found several questions now which require shrinking the screen to 80% to make all the words visible. So now not only is the font and contrast harder to read, it's also smaller. This 'new improved design layout' is not an improvement in the slightest...
At the very least, give us the option of a dark ("night") mode!
To be fair, though, maybe it's time to install "Stylish" or an equivalent extension. I can deal with the diabetes the new cartoon icons will give, but the glaring sea of vast bright white, in my dark room, is really somewhat maddening.
Interestingly that I've seen three posts from users who use Mac (in most cases people don't write what they use) that they are fine with a new redesign.
I'm using PC, having my monitor only with15 % brightness, and I can't look at the main page. Also, the fonts became much blurry compared to the previous one, while again those who using Mac wrote that fonts are much better now.
I wonder could it be the difference?
Yeah, glad to see someone with the same opinion. The new design looks less serious and more for kids, and I don't think there are many under 5's using DuoLingo. And my eyes feel like they're being burnt. Everything is so rounded and hard to look at.
It's our role to give feedback until heard and fixed.
And it seems that problems like extreme brightness affect some platforms more than others.
Please see if we can reach Duo by - BUG REPORT - (it is reportable if the site is unusable or has problems this serious) or reply to Duo's announcement of the new design -see under Duolingo forum subscription. (I gave an example there ~Newest)
It is simple for Duo to at least turn the brightness down.
Please note that some people who do not see the problems of extreme brightness and poor legibility or can't understand the issues or prefer workarounds to fixing problems at the source, and do not have empathy,
are using down-votes to remove newer feedback posts off the board and silence those who do face problems. Meanwhile this thread has become less visible. To Duo, and them, the feedback/complaints/issues may seem to have disappeared.
The problems remain though.
A progress update: the brightness problem has been fixed, at least for the platform I use, 2 days after I sent in a bug report and about two weeks after the forum discussions on this issue began. Thank You, Duo team.
Mm I don't know, I kind of like the new design, although it does look a bit more childlike it also looks newer, sleeker maybe, perhaps cleaner is the word I'm looking for. I myself like the redesign and don't have any issues with it. But I would have to agree that for those who get strained eyes from it should have the option to return to the old design or at least be able to change the color and/or text so that their eyes will not be strained.
I like the new graphics a lot, but toning down the colors would be nice. Something bright that grabs people's attention might be nice for a logo, but when you're trying to concentrate on the learning it's just distracting.
I think it is too cartoony, too, and the letters cannot be read well. I liked the old design much better and would prefer an option to get it back.
I also think it would be great to give people an option here. There could be a small submenu with two checkboxes: new design, dark mode.
That's from someone who is absolutely surprised in a positive way by the update. Not only does it not sneak in other "minor changes" and is limited to the design, it also looks extremely fresh, by bringing back some really old retro elements, minimalistic, nice color scheme. I'm a fan.
But yeah, give people a choice here, please!
I second the dark mode option and reiterate my request for a lighter font.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I like the new design. And I'm the type of person who usually doesn't like changes.
I don't mind it, but I remember on another website when they tried out a "beta version" that it started defaulting to after a while and it was almost universally hated although many people criticized the old version as well as being outdated.
You could still switch back to the old version and after a while the beta version disappeared, but I think they merged some changes which people didn't complain about anymore.
I like the simplicity though. It's not too crowded and everything I look for is easy to find on DuoLingo.
I sometimes use an extension called "Dark Reader" so it's not so bright.
They wont offer to undo their work because they are arrogant. Believe themselves to be special. If I wasn't invested I'd walk.
It's because they are not hiring the best people, they are hiring the ones who make them look hip and inline with modern sociopolitical ideals.
I can get used to the redesign, I'm sure, but there is noticeable delay as I'm typing into text boxes, now. Font rendering, or something? That's pretty frustrating.
The new redesign doesn't hurt my eyes, and I don't hate it, but I just wish that Duolingo would divert their attention to expanding trees, adding new bonus skills, and things such as that. To me, aesthetics aren't important.
I found something to help me with the brightness problem. I use Duo on my cell phone browser (Chrome - Samsung Galaxy S4). I found that selecting "Auto Adjust Screen Tone" in Settings cuts down the intensity of the white background (beyond the minimal brightness setting) as part of a power saving function. If newer cell phones do this without having to change the settings, it might explain why so many users weren't experiencing the painful intensity of the new color scheme.
I like trying new designs every now and then, but 1) the white background, 2) the grey fonts and 3) the cartoonish, flat icons using very bright colors are really hurting my eyes and hard to read. Please at least give us a button labeled switch back to the old design (maybe even with a menu of older "skins") - this will give your instant feedback on your efforts.
I agree I do not like the new format whatsoever! I am having many problems with some questions of which prevent me from moving forward in my learning. Many times during a lesson an error question pops up e.g.. choose the the right answer but no choices are put on the screen, or choose the right sentence, but there is only one choice & there should be 3 choices, and if I choose the only one, its wrong, and then it proceeds to put the very same question up again, so therefore I cannot move forward and have to abandon the lesson all together. I am being pushed to delete my account and start afresh, is such a shame as I have been learning for a long time. These errors have been coming for about 3/4 weeks now. Very disappointed
Exactly right. I have to enlarge the screen to find the right accents, then make it smaller again to apply. Or if I write a wrong accent I must enlarge the screen to be able to see Duo's answer. Eye strain is more frequent. Blue is not a good color for some of us. Some days i spent a lot of time enjoying the site, only to have blurred vision and be nauseated. So I backed off quite a lot. And yes, I had my eyes checked.
I don't mind the new look of the language courses TOO much (though I did prefer the old style, and I agree about the new look being too cartoonish). But I really don't like the look of the discussion forums now. In particular, it is now EXTREMELY difficult for me to be able to tell if I have upvoted/downvoted a post or not (I don't generally downvote unless someone is being rude). It was very easy to tell under the old scheme, but now under the new one, it is all but impossible. :-(
My initial reaction was the same but I must admit that it is beginning to grow on me
Wow, I find the new exercises not nearly as good. More comprehension, less sound - says it'll be back in an hour after only 5-10 minutes on line, less written exercise. I certainly prefer the former version. Not bothered by the colours or format.
I think it makes it more appealing to kids which is why they did so. to be honest, I never seen the old version which is probably why this "change" doesn't bother me
I got it this morning. I'm probably in the minority here, but I don't actually mind DL's new web/desktop appearance. Although it's now more closely aligned to the Android app version, personally, I don't find this update to be as bad on a 15.6" laptop screen as I did when it first appeared on Android.
I like the design, I don't see what's the matter with it. I think people are overreacting a little bit, this has happened with many websites, and people have gotten over it. My favorite coding website (scratch.mit.edu) went through a change like this, and after a week of hate, everyone started talking about how much better the new look was.
I honestly don't know why people are freaking out over this, it's just a slight re-design. Just do the lessons and go on with your day.
If you don't know why people are upset, how does it help anyone to chastise? It is NOT "just a slight re-design" that has everyone complaining. If I complain to the waiter that my coffee is bad, it's hardly helpful if he tells me, "Just drink it and get on with your day."
Do you have vision issues? Like normally, not just duolingo related?
Because I barely noticed a change. Not anything that would warrant the reaction it got from people.
But for people with vision impairment I can understand the complaints. Duolibgo has never been all that friendly to people with vision issues.
I don't have a problem with the colors or the grays, but I really don't like the look of the cartoons, it makes me feel like they are treating me like a kid...and I don't like that.
I have no vision issues that I'm aware of, I'm young, my screen is calibrated to the best of my ability since I work with visual media. This is currently the only website I visit regularly that is so unpleasant to look at. It's an extremely poor redesign.
Vision issues? Never significant before, I'm very slightly nearsighted and wear glasses when driving.
Prone to headaches and a history of migraines? Yes, from looking at bright white screens, which I usually don't do for more than a few seconds at a time. That was never an issue for me on Duolingo when there was less white space on the screen.
Turning down my screen brightness helped until I went to do lessons, where I have to read text. Bold blobby font on a dim screen blurs together, so I have to put on my glasses. I don't wear glasses when focusing on what's arm's length away in any other circumstance, and my eyes hurt after a couple of exercises. I've been mainly relying on the audio, only looking at the screen when completely necessary and disregarding diacritic marks completely. My discussion tab switched over yesterday, and I can only stand a long thread like this while sitting in direct bright sunlight.
This update just happens to be a perfect storm.
I feel like there's probably a lot of groupthink placebo effect going on. A couple complaints that everyone has picked up on and amplified out of proportion in the echo chamber. I see the differences, but the differences have had no real effect on me. It does not seem to impact my mental or physical well-being any more than the old design was. It's inherently not good to stare at a computer screen for long bouts of time, and I find the redesign is no better or worse than just about any other web page on the internet.
The only real noticeable change I would say is the color of the golden skills. They are definitely brighter, but it's not like I spend a lot of time staring at my list of gold skills.
I guarantee there are people that have actual vision problems with the site, but they are going to have vision problems with computer screens and the internet in general.
That said, this page is now showing me an advertisement for eye exams, and I find that humorous in a dystopian way :)
It's inherently not good to stare at a computer screen for long bouts of time, and I find the redesign is no better or worse than just about any other web page on the internet.
As a software engineer I've been staring at computer screens all day for decades. I have never seen such a bad interface on a professional site.
I counter this statement. I think that this re-design is very nice and much cleaner. The words are actually easier to read (for me, at least). And really, it doesn't matter if it looks "cartoony" or not; it's a website, and it would probably be a lot of work to toggle a setting that changes the entire websites look - from the flag icons to the little lingots and shop. Overall, this request seems very hard to do, especially since it took long enough for this design to be implimented into the entire website anyway. Plus, it does seem pretty unreasonable. Just gotta get over it, I guess. C'est la vie.
I agree that a "toggle" to give everyone what they want may be hard to implement and unreasonable to expect, but complaining about what many consider a poor redesign is NOT unreasonable. It's called feedback and it's how good designs get favored over poor ones.
I think the new design is fine. All of you with your eyes and heads hurting, you need to consult a doctor.
Rude - and I have. Apart from age and myopia, I have posterior vitreous detachment which they can do nothing about. One day, you, too, will get older.
Today I found this on Wikipedia. Mass psychogenic illness: "The rapid spread of illness signs and symptoms affecting members of a cohesive group, originating from a nervous system disturbance involving excitation, loss, or alteration of function, whereby physical complaints that are exhibited unconsciously have no corresponding organic aetiology".
I'm wondering if that is what we are seeing here...
No, it's called a migraine. Sufferers KNOW what triggers them, and there are triggers -like bright light!- common among different people, because, surprise surprise, that is how specific conditions work. Get this: different people with a specific condition have the same symptoms! Wild, huh?
And that's just one condition the site causes issues for. Surely you realise how absurd you're being to dismiss eyesight issues users have, which clearly show up as organic in origin on the tests we have?
So, how many different designs should they keep? It will be redesigned again. Should they then keep this one too? Should they retroactively go back and add every other previous iteration that people didn’t want to leave? Should they just keep 2-3-4-however many trees for each language so every new user gets to pick the tree they want.
How far do you take it?
I have 20/20 vision and am 23 years old and this format is giving even me a headache. That's when you know they screwed up.
I am old and I have eyesight problems, but alpha3099 is correct: it's unrealistic to expect a company to maintain multiple versions of its product, especially at no cost. Better that Duolingo should get caught up and learn about accessible software.
No, but if you have a new version, it really needs to be better than the previous one. I have not seen so many people complain about something in this forum.. Technology is improving every day, better graphics, higher resolutions, yet Duolingo's NEW version reverts to poor quality graphics and low Res fonts..
You can have the best program in the world, but if the vast majority of people can not work with it without getting headaches or mis reading the text its popularity will suffer. I am still looking forward to the new tree... but I can not see myself working on the platform as it stands...
Just a small observation, I have the feeling that this appears to have affected desk top users far more than those on phones... Yes, some of us still work on computers that don't fit in your pocket.
But plenty of websites do keep multiple versions available, even when it's a smaller cosmetic change. This one has serious usability and access issues.
it's unrealistic to expect a company to maintain multiple versions of its product, especially at no cost.
This isn't a "product" it's a skin. A website design is not like a new coat of paint on an old car. Graphic assets do not vanish unless you delete them. And it costs you nothing to host both versions and allow access to them via themes.
The condescending post from one of the devs indicates that they perceived it to be "something that looked like it was from 2000".
What it really means, in any language though, is the graphic designers didn't want to be laid off so came up with something to justify their jobs, just to be seen as doing something.
I'm not sure how convincing anyone on the fence about whether or not to go to duolingo pro their money would be better spent on whatever site replaces duolingo down the road helps keep those graphic designers employed, but they must have some logic to it, right?
Old site skin was perfect for me as well.
These people would nuke an atoll and create Godzilla because their pet lizard looked too ordinary.
Any product needs to improve. How about giving them some positive feedback and be patient. They have created a product that has won all of you over and because of some changes now you sound more childish than the graphics. I did not know that the graphics controlled me language acquisition? Asking for options for display is a good request, so how about asking in a mature way.
I am not raging, but simply could not provide positive feedback. I see no positives.
I don´t see so much childish comments here and I think it is unfair to call the people immature when they discuss a quite understandable topic. Problems with the graphics mean in fact that it is far more difficult to learn something. Or just uncomfortable. What is so difficult to understand that not seeing well could be a problem? Why shouldn´t people complain about something if they feel uncomfortable? What kind of advice is it to be patient (sounds like shut up and adapt yourself and don´t question the older ones...). I guess nobody is questioning Duolingo being a wonderful app. But does that mean that you cannot question a detail if the product is a good one? That really sounds a bit immature to me. Like IanC798471 I cannot find nothing positive. Although I haven´t any problems with the new design - besides of the lack of aestethic - I think this change in fact was unnecessary. So why not improve, but where there´s improvement needed.
Great, why don't you exercise your right to it?
@DespairNem Although that is kinda rude, and you shouldn't dish it out is you can't take it (meaning don't tell people they should delete their account if you aren't willing to delete yours), On the other hand, @Songve, you are also being rude, I'm sure they already know they can delete their account, they want the problem fixed so that they can stay. 'Kay guys? Try not to be so rude, if you don't agree the the original post, you can stay off of it.
Yeah no buzz off. I'm not interested in your lecture of "let's all be nice now." His post was clearly a shitpost and I threw it back at him. Nothing wrong with that, he had it coming. Plenty of people have been complaining about this ugly change; his post had no purpose but to rustle some jimmies. If you don't like what I said, then you're free to exercise your own advice and not waste your time replying. Which I will quote here because I'm sure you're going to forget.
if you don't agree the the original post, you can stay off of it.
@DespairNem I didn't forget my own post. You aren't being polite, and people like you in the world, who criticize other people and have the tendency to be impolite, are the ones who cause most problems. If everyone were polite and forgiving, there probably would be fewer wars and fights overall. I'm sorry if I said something that offended you, or hurt your feelings (and I really am sorry, I'm not just saying this), I don't like seeing people be rude to each other (including when my younger siblings fight over toys), so I was trying to make the whole thing kinda die down, and I didn't think that would happen without intervention. I'm sorry for whatever I did.
No. If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem. The net allows one to speak freely; politeness is not a prerequisite. It's ludicrous that you'd imply I'm somehow worse than the OP simply because I threw it back at him. This is not a Kindergarten class and you are not the teacher who gets to wag a finger at people and tell them "no, no!" just because they said something you don't like. As I've stated elsewhere in reply to you, the Internet was never polite from the very beginning. It's everyone else forcing their ludicrous rules and standards upon it.
If everyone were polite and forgiving, there probably would be fewer wars and fights overall.
If that were true, then all the censorship of dissenting views and political correctness would have taken us to the golden age. Protip: It hasn't.
@DespairNem I was trying to help. I can see that I didn't do that. I'm not trying to act superior, I just didn't want the whole situation to escalate. I'm not trying to force anyone to do anything. I'll say it again: I was trying to help. I wasn't saying any of it wholly because I didn't like it, I was saying it because I wanted to keep things from getting worse, I didn't think the situation was going in a good direction. Also, a lot of people aren't kind and forgiving all the time, so there can't ever be an actual golden age. What did I do that made you so mad at me? I don't understand, and I would like to. What did I do wrong? How can I make it better? And in the future, if I get into a situation like this, how would you suggest I change my actions? I'm sorry for making the situation worse. Can you forgive me?
Yeah, he's been posting stuff like that in every thread about the change.