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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Flavo.Felicitia

Any updates on Arabic?

I am trying to be patient but arabic has been stuck on 68% for as long as I have been on duolingo and I am wondering if there have been any updates recently that I may have missed?

It just seems worrying that it hasn´t moved in so long im kind of worried it has been abandoned.

Edit: If nothing else, we will get an update on May 1st. If they dont update the date then we need to bombard Duolingo with emails to intervene and find new contributors.

April 6, 2019

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sousoudoudo

I tried to participate in creating it, but nothing new =(


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

I don't think they want anymore contributors tho tbh it's barely progressing + _ +


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sousoudoudo

so why they do not just work on it?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

IDK I applied but I got totally rejected X _ X maybe if they let in too much people there's a higher chance of them not being good enough or something?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sousoudoudo

yes, maybe.... you speak Arabic?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

Ya it's my second language and English my third but my parents taught me it since I was like three so I'm fluent at it :)... Did you apply for it as well? :o


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sousoudoudo

Nice! what's your first? yes, I did :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

Amazigh is my 1st, what's yours? :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

شني دزيرية؟ تحكين عربي ولا إي؟ @_@


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sousoudoudo

هههههههههه آسفة، لا شيء لا شيء... من أيّة دولة أنت؟

لغتي الامّ هي العربيّة :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

إني من دولة الخراب و الغباء المستحفاء بقولوها "ليبيا" هههههه لو بتعرفيش يا اختي بيحسودك على شعيرات اقادمك ههههه. من وين انتي متقوليش ليبيا ههههه! XD


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sousoudoudo

لو تعرفين XD أنا جزائريّة XD خراب أخرب من الخراب نفسه هنا XD


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

I was just looking at the contributors but to me it seems like they haven't been on for more than two years now... :o Just wondering, who accepts applications? Cus if it's the contributors, then clearly no-one will be able to join if they haven't even seen the applications anyway? :O


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sousoudoudo

Really?! that's awful! I mean they want this course to stop or what then?!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RadioScotch

If its duolingo then they really gotta look at applications submitted by people. I've tried applying for Scottish Gaelic as I come from a family of speakers but they haven't responded


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

ههههه اعرف لكن خراب ليبيا اخرب من خراب الجزائر. أول مر إحسبتك إنغليزية لإنك بتعرفي إنغليزي كثير مليح ههههه XD


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sousoudoudo

هههههههههههه نفس الشي بالنسبة ليك ^^


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sousoudoudo

Hi Sassy! how do you do?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

Hellooo ;) I'm doing just fine... except my easter break ended! - aka: no more sleeping in :'( ... and you?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sousoudoudo

I'm fine! Oh! waking up on 7 am is tragic, no?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

LOL I wake up at 7am too ;p Yeah I know it's torture!! you totally understand me :D


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sousoudoudo

Yeah, I know, plus, studying here is boring, nothing makes me sad as school =(


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

Yeah like having the worst lessons last thing on a Friday, there used to be a class that had English all day except for the last lesson where they had Maths X_X


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sousoudoudo

LOL right >/< organizers hate us, don't they?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

Ya IKR! ... And they always decide to do the most running in PE when it's Ramadan :o


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

Do they not do that to you?! Wow it must be my school @_@


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nanase4367

I checked the incubator today and the number of contributors working on Arabic has been cut to four from six.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

^Yeah, I saw that as well...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/woozlification

Could you do an Amazigh course, please? :-) I have friends who speak it, and I've got on really well with the people I've met who are speakers of it, but am limited to Azool and basic things like that... and there isn't even a course on Memrise, as far as I can see.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

I mean I would, but if they can't do Arabic I don't know how they're going to do Amazigh, it does have a completely different alphabet you know and doesn't rlly have a standard version cus it differs where you are from :L . Plus, I doubt anyone other than me who speaks it will actually apply for it tbh. :) + I've seen quite a few courses on Memrise, have you searched it?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Flavo.Felicitia

Thats a shame. They really should be open to new contributors if they are qualified but oh well.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

I know, I think that it's because the old contributors are the ones who look over the applications, but it also means that if they're not even online then I don't know how anyone's gonna get accepted 0_0 ?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Flavo.Felicitia

We need intervention from duolingo ASAP then


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

I could make a post, but I guarantee they'll down vote it, delete it or lock it so... :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Flavo.Felicitia

Make a post. If this one did so well so should yours


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

I just did right now - Lol I wrote a whole essay :p


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

I don't think my essay was much appreciated lol - I told you they won't like the idea from the first place ;)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RadioScotch

yeah, it's a bit annoying that they don't really look at forms that people submit in the incubator.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Meital640

Arabic and Yiddish courses are paused :(


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

"Once there is an opening, you might be contacted by a team member to help construct the course" - What do they mean by once there is an opening? * _ *


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CheshirePat

When I started German, I challenged myself to finish the tree before Arabic was in Beta. That seemed like a challenge because Arabic was at 68% I'm now about 3/4ths through the tree and Arabic is still at 68%


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sebbo19763

So you're saying this is your fault, and once you get your owl, Arabic will be back on track.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CheshirePat

I suppose that's a possibility. I saw it as a race I'm definitely winning...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

Hopefully it's like the race between the hare and the turtle ;p


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WinterSoldier.

I am not sure we want it rushed out of beta. Think about it! Last time a course was rushed out it was a total flop. Hawaiian and Navajo. Nice idea, but the course is what? 10 skills long. Not nearly enough material to EVEN SCRATCH the surface of such complexed languages.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hxvan
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I woudn't mind if it is rushed as beta soon, with 10 skills at least. But it is not like we have that option either. All we can do is wait because that depends on the volunteers and the Duolingo Team.

As I was telling you, I wouldn't mind if they released it as beta. Because some of us are slow learners. So it is more likely that in a few years they add new skills than we finish even half of the tree.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WinterSoldier.

@Hxvan. It thought thats nice. But in reality? No. It might SEEM nice to have ANY arabic available, but it the course is with out sound, bugs all over the place, only one lesson per skill, and is 8 skills long I don't think it would be to good. I would rather have a nice long complete course with lots of skills and lessons, with sound and relatively bug free. And have it take longer than a poorly planned rushed out course.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

Maybe if they just release the alphabet with sound, cus if you ask me, it'll take you guys at least a month to learn the alphabet well... If you take less, you're either a walking dictionary, or you just haven't learnt it good enough :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Evan825567

hello everyone i am really happy seeing so many people with such a desire to learn Arabic.i really wanted to help cause my native language is Arabic but i am not very good with using computers and such things .i hope you can find some updates soon.i wish you all the best in learning it.It is very amusing.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Elgatobandido

I too am eager to see the Arabic tree released.
Until then this might help:
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeA5t3dWTWvsP3fzKigR7hKKaJtWB1eHJ


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MAKAFAT

WeeklyIncubatorSummery said there is progress on Arabic, But I'm not sure about that...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nanase4367

Arabic hasn't moved in the WIS for months now this year. It's most likely going to be delayed again.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alexandernext

I would like updates about this too!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ErinAndW

Also, we can hope that they are working on things behind the scenes that aren't measured in Duolingo's incubator. For example, they might be planning things on a shared google doc, and aren't planning to transfer their work until more is completed. We'll never know what happens behind the scenes!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

Unlikely, but you never know? (tho I doubt it!) :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

The incubator page has changed now, it looks so old... It's like we don't have GUI ;D


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slogger

No, there have been no updates that you have missed. It has gotten nowhere for years, that anyone on the forums can tell. Don't be too hopeful. But sometimes Duolingo introduces something after months or years of seeming inactivity, so it's possible Arabic will eventually be ready for beta test. They also say that miracles happen. Keep watching the Incubator for updates. And if there suddenly is actual progress, you'll probably see dozens of reports about it in the forums.

Rather than waiting for Duoling, you would be better off finding another way to learn Arabic IMHO. (Duolingo has said it will be teaching Modern Standard Arabic, by the way, rather than any of the regional languages.)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Flavo.Felicitia

That´s a shame, thank you for the succinct answer though. I probably should look for other options. Modern standard is the best to teach because you can easily adapt to any regional dialects from there without being too biased to one or the other.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lynngot

Any suggestions for online Arabic learning? I've tried Memrise, but that doesn't really do it for me. Thanks!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

You could try Busuu but I can't remember if they have the alphabet...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Christiane1037

I have tried Busuu, they have the alphabet. But I really don't like how they ask me to give them money all the time, "20% off your purchase, buy our course" you can use about half of the stuff on that website for free and the rest you have to pay for. Which I guess would be a good start if you are desperate. Duolingo is so much better though...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Christiane1037

the one good thing that busuu has that duolingo doesn't is Arabic, for starters, and when you record your voice it is sent to native speakers to correct it which is really useful.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lynngot

Yes, I love this!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lynngot

I just went ahead and paid for it. I've been waiting for a long time for Arabic. In fact, it's the first course I looked for when I was first introduced to Duolingo, maybe 4 years ago, and I've been waiting ever since. I was a bit disheartened to learn that Duo is probably not releasing Arabic anytime soon...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lynngot

Busuu is what I found last night, and I love it! I do have a little practice with the alphabet already. I think the beginning lessons I started on would have been difficult if not for that. I haven't found alphabet exercises yet. But I'm already enjoying the interaction with native speakers. Thank you, SASSYandsisters!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

No problem. I used to do Spanish on it too but then I couldn't login for some reason so I don't use it anymore. It was good, but like Christiane1037 said, it's better when you pay and if you don't, you get limited access and they bug you to pay 24/7 @_@ Shame, I could've corrected your exercises on it but alas, I can't login so... :) Good luck!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MattyMcMattMatt

I've been using Mondly for a few years now, as well as Drops for building vocabulary. They're nowhere near as helpful as Duolingo, but it's something


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sousoudoudo

Is it free? I mean Mondly... what about Drops?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MattyMcMattMatt

Mondly has some free content and some pay content, I forget which is which. At the least they have some daily lessons which are free and good for practicing your writing. Same for Drops, although I’ve only ever needed the free version of Drops. It gives you 5-10 free minutes every 10 hours; you can pay to get more time doing the same kind of activity (vocal building) but I’ve never felt the need to do that


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sousoudoudo

Oh thank you! I'll test them ^^


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

5-10 free mins for every 10h?! :0 I think the person who divided work days and weekends must be behind this as well...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/woozlification

I spent quite a few lessons on the Memrise one that is the most popular, and realised I was learning nothing. To do all the forms of each letter all at the same time was too much for me. I am happy to learn them all, but want to do it properly, and really recognise them. I switched to a different course on there, and learnt twice as much in 2 lessons as on around 20 before. Try different courses. They are not all the same :-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lynngot

Thank you for that. I may go back to it as a supplement to Busuu. I think every program has its own strengths and weaknesses.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnitaRRC

Yes please, is there any way we can make them listen? They have fictional languages of little use, but this is spoken in so many countries. It is the 6th most spoken language in the world https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_total_number_of_speakers?wprov=sfla1 Also, a course in Arabic would help to overcome many misconceptions and cultural bias.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

I think it's the 4th most spoken actually, and they find it rude if you say it should be prioritized because it's more popular (tho it is). They just down vote you when you comment about it then your post disappears :L


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnitaRRC

@wintersoldier, - I don't genuinely believe it is much more difficult than Japanese or Russian - Yes, there are so many misconceptions about the Arabic language and culture in this world I have seen too much war and conflict, but I have also seen the beauty of the architecture and music, the hospitality and how much we have in common. If I could speak more a few words it would help. When I lived in France I had many Arab clients. I used to explain technical details on the phone to Algeria, Morocco etc. It would have helped a lot if I could have explained better. For what it's worth, I still have a gift from a thankful Algerian here in Costa Rica to remind me. Now please don't tell me high valerian has more importance in automotive electronics.

Yes I know I won't learn my trade vocabulary here. But at least I will get a start. Maybe I can also help to fight simple ignorance about Muslims.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WinterSoldier.

Arabic is an extremely difficult language. I am not surprised this is happening. We must have patience. Btw, @AnitaRRC. Could you please explain our statement "Also a course in Arabic would help to overcome many misconceptions and cultural bias"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

Hmm good point^ @_@


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Christiane1037

It says that the "estimated launch" is 5/1/19, so hopefully on May 1st...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

I don't want to break it to you guys, but let's be honest, Duo always change the date when they realise that it won't be completed so that no-one can say the date is wrong ;p clever! I'm pretty sure the estimated date has changed a couple of times now...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/the_lerxst

You are correct, it has already changed a few times. When I first looked I think it was originally due to be released at the end of the summer of 2018, then it was pushed back to October, then to early spring of this year, now it apparently says May. I've stopped looking, I just put myself onto the "notify me" list.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Stergi3

It is a difficult language for sure. There are many dialects, but I think Modern Standard Arabic (Fusha) is this most common to be taught, not a dialect. I learn Arabic using YouTube videos and specially Maya's channel. It is difficult to learn the letters first and accent second. But it is a Semetic language and the 3 characters-pattern seems quite fascinating to me. You can learn Hebrew instead, it would be easy to switch after. I try to learn Turkish as well, which is a language with many Arabic words, even though it is written in Latin alphabet (modified) and the words are adapted to the Turkish phonology. I wish a fully reconstructed team take over this difficult task, I am sure that many volunteers, Arabic and English speakers can go further this try. I hope it is soon. It's a shame a so important language, there are Nobelists in literature, and culture with so many speakers is not completed yet. I know it is difficult, but... Who is responsible?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KaraT.

If this feedback is of any help, yes please! Many people are eager for this course, still! I joined almost 400 days ago because Arabic would be ready "in a few months" per the language page. I mean, the Spanish reviewing is nice (if frustrating given the course changes have stolen my earned owls half a dozen times now) but the whole reason I signed on was to learn some Arabic for work.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ngabou2

I saw that it said that it would be done or released on May 1st, but I don't know if that is going to happen.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NoorulIman1

yes, i NEED Arabic


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/R.Tessier

It was pushed back to July, anyone know why?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/leonthornt

I am not sure, but I read something a while back that it was a technical difficulty getting the arabic script to work on the duolingo platform, not a problem with developing the course content. But I do wish that Duo would let us users know. Patiently waiting....


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

I mean this seems kinda obvious...because they haven't finished it yet? (mainly cus they haven't worked on it for a while now) and the estimate is probably going to get pushed back again if you ask me


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/R.Tessier

Oh sorry! I don't post on these discussions a lot, so I didn't know that I had to specify that I was looking for an answer beyond the obvious. Thank you!

I guess I should edit my original question asking if anyone has any insider insight, as that was the response for which I was looking.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/amk_61

I have the same question lovely - it seems that the contributors to the course are not making much progress on development and keep delaying the release date.

What I am not able to understand though, is why they are not accepting other contributors who could probably put in more time and get the course on track? Duolingo do need to intervene, but this is not a popular suggestion for some reason.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/R.Tessier

That's what I was wondering — Why Duolingo isn't accepting any new contributors. They seem very tight-lipped about their inner workings. But I do hope that they make progress this year! Or at least release some sort of update.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

Now my answer sounds rude, no need to edit nothing, maybe I just took it really obviously :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/313Mahdi

I think they afraid of Arabic the language of Islam which let's you open a window of light to the rotten minds


[deactivated user]

    Just a boring course with too many repeats of the same words. They want me to go for the payed course.?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WinterSoldier.

    @Sassyandsisters, I deleted my comment because I felt that it wasn't appropriate, and it really didn't express what I feel. It sounded too judgemental which wasn't what I was trying to to say. Mainly what I was trying to express was bias against arabic speakers comes from repeated disasters associated with arabic speakers i.e. twin towers ect, and that people, including me find it difficult to let go of


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SASSYandsisters.

    Sorry, maybe my comment was rude so now I'm kinda glad it got deleted by someone... But also, just cus one person does something you (not necessarily you, just in general) really can't go on blaming everyone who is linked to that person (race, religion etc...). :) I think we're calm now... red blob with white circle for you ;p


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/amk_61

    It's interesting you say that. From said 'arabic speakers' perspective (along with East Asia, Africa etc.), the majority of the disasters they face/faced comes from English speakers (the only use of nuclear bombs, vietnam, interference in the middle east, oil wars, invasion and exploitation in Africa etc.).

    It's a good thing we all don't find things difficult to let go of. Perhaps if you looked at other disasters, including those not affecting you, it might make things easier for you?

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