Plans Now That I've Finished My (Currently) Perfectly Golden Portuguese Skill Tree: Books, TED talks
I started about 11 months ago on 6/29/13 and since then have gained 16128 XP and have learned at least 1950 words (I'd guess that I have learned more than the 1950 words Duolingo taught me since I have been watching Ted talks in Portuguese and have been using Immersion). Now that I have finished the skill tree including all the bonus skills I plan to keep practicing Portuguese to keep all the skills golden (I have a completely golden tree as of when I started writing this (you never know when it will start to decay and fall apart on you though of course)), use the immersion tab (in pt), continue watching Ted talks (in pt), and maybe start reading some Portuguese language books. I've thinking about The Alchemest, or maybe an English book translated to Portuguese that I've read and am familiar with (like Harry Potter e a Pedra Filosofal) or maybe an English book that I always meant to read when I was younger but never got around to reading (like Os Jogos Vorzes (The Hunger Games) or O Senhor dos Anéis (Lord of The Rings)).
Also if anyone else has ideas for books or movies or quality TV in Portuguese (especially those originally in Portuguese, or maybe some way you've found to watch certain U.S. TV shows or movies dubbed into Portuguese in the U.S.) I would be happy to see recommendations in the comments section!
Outside of the topic of Portuguese, but still on the topic of language learning, I also plan to work some more on German.
Update: May 28, 2014
People have been asking about TED talks so here are some links:
- Integração e operação - um verdadeiro recomeço: Marcelo Arigony at TEDxSantaMaria
- Práticas educacionais inspiradoras escondidas Brasil: Caio Dib at TEDxUnisinos 2013
- Paixão por empreender: Cristiano Silveira at TEDxSantaMaria
- TEDxOporto (I just found this website. I don't know if there are any talks on it, but many of the European Portuguese TEDxtalks I found on Youtube came from TEDxOporto)
Some advice about the TED talks: Avoid using Youtube's closed captions in English (no matter the quality) as your brain will not be forced to learn the new words as you watch. Also it may be worth watching the same talk multiple times (sometimes even on different days) to really understand it. Maybe you might even go back to a TED talk that completely confused you months before and then watch it and find that your comprehension has improved greatly. Also I have found that Youtube will often give you links to English (sometimes Spanish or even other languages too) TED talks from the Portuguese ones. Sometimes (other times you might be fine) there are no links that are easy to find to other Portuguese TED talks from the TED talk you are watching (as opposed to the usual finding another similar Youtube video when watching English Youtube videos). Don't think you have used up the last TED talk in Portuguese, you just need to be able to find other TED talks. One thing I do is writing down the TED talk's TEDx event (like TEDxOporto or TEDxSantaMaria) and use the event to find other TED talks (that might have links to more Portuguese TED talks from other events (in which case it may be useful to write down the name of the event or keep track of it somehow for future reference.
Also while we are on the subject of TED, here are some TED talks in English that either have to do with language learning or can be applied to language learning. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND these:
- How to learn any language in six months: Chris Lonsdale at TEDxLingnanUniversity - A psychologist talks about psychological principles being applied to help in language learning.
- Hacking language learning: Benny Lewis at TEDxWarsaw Benny Lewis talks about the importance of speaking a language you are learning from day one.
- How to become a Memory Master: Idriz Zogaj at TEDxGoteborg A memory athlete talks about the creative side of memory and old memory techniques.
- The art of memory: Daniel Kilov at TEDxMacquarieUniversity Another memory athlete. Similar to the one before, but I thought it was worth my time to watch both.
Thank you for the book suggestions! Here are some of the books and authors people have recommended so that they are all in one easier to find place than scattered throughout the comments (I might miss some of them though... Sorry!)
- Paulo Coelho
"the language he uses is very simple and easy to follow" -Elen-ka
- José Rodrigues dos Santos (European Portuguese)
"If you want more challenge try José Rodrigues dos Santos , his books are amazing" -Elen-ka
- Chico Buarque (Brazilian Portuguese)
"If you want more challenge try... Chico Buarque" -Elen-ka
- Machado de Assis
"...was a Brazilian novelist, poet, playwright, short story writer, and advocate of monarchism. Widely regarded as the greatest writer of Brazilian literature, nevertheless he did not gain widespread popularity outside Brazil in his own lifetime. He was multilingual, having taught himself French, English, German and Greek in later life." -Wikipedia
- Luís de Camões
"...considered Portugal's and the Portuguese language's greatest poet. His mastery of verse has been compared to that of Shakespeare, Vondel, Homer, Virgil and Dante. He wrote a considerable amount of lyrical poetry and drama but is best remembered for his epic work Os Lusíadas (The Lusiads). His collection of poetry The Parnasum of Luís de Camões was lost in his lifetime. The influence of his masterpiece Os Lusíadas is so profound that Portuguese is called the 'language of Camões'." -Wikipedia
- Monteiro Lobato
"...was one of Brazil's most influential writers, mostly for his children's books set in the fictional Sítio do Picapau Amarelo (Yellow Woodpecker Farm) but he had been previously a prolific writer of fiction, a translator and an art critic." -Wikipedia
- José de Alencar
- Aluísio Azevedo
"...Brazilian novelist, caricaturist, diplomat, playwright and short story writer. Initially a Romantic writer, he would later adhere to the Naturalist movement. He introduced the Naturalist movement in Brazil with the novel O Mulato, in 1881." -Wikipedia
Books: (Author in Parentheses)
- Os Lusiadas (Luís de Camões)
"That would be the holy grail. But it's not easy. Bit like taking another tree..." -DesmondCoutinho
- Memórias Póstumas de Brás Cubas (Machado de Assis)
"most preffered book I've ever read. It's a classic Brazilian literature book." -NicholasPadilha
- Dom Casmurro (Machado de Assis)
"Dom Casmurro is considered [Assis's] masterpiece" -Davu
- Lucíola (José de Alencar)
"Lucíola is an urban fiction novel written by the Brazilian writer José de Alencar. It was first published in 1862. It treats mainly of the late-nineteenth century Rio de Janeiro society, exploring its deficient morality. This novel is said to be influenced by Alexandre Dumas' novel The Lady of the Camellias." -Wikipedia
- Iracema (José de Alencar)
"one of the three indigenous novels by José de Alencar." -Wikipedia
- A Hora da Estrela (Clarice Lispector)
Very good literature, but not too hard to read. -Carolind
Wow! Compiling that list with all the links and formatting and everything took quite a while (a few hours)! Thanks a lot for all the suggestions, and I Hope you enjoy reading the books on the list and find it useful (It wasn't too long and cluttered a discussion was it?)!
Davu also made a good point about classics:
The nice thing about classics like that are they are in the public domain and can be downloaded free of charge. The not so nice thing is that the language used can be challenging nowadays.
Other Places to practice:
This editorial from the Folha de Sao Paulo has both a written text as well as an audio component, so you can hear the correct pronunciation. It may be that other editorials in Folha have the same feature. -emeyr
Hi, it is very cool. Congratulations for you. My english is not very good, I am brazilian student.
Congratulations! I will have to start watching TED Talks in Portuguese; I can't believe I didn't think of that. Thanks a lot!
One Portuguese (Brazilian, I think) movie that I watched was Cidade de Deus. I watched it with English subtitled because I was scared that I wouldn't be able to keep up with the speaking, as it gets fast at some parts. I really liked the movie.
Here are a few discussions where people share movies/ songs in Portuguese (as well as some other languages):
I recommend any of Paulo Coelho books, the language he uses is very simple and easy to follow. If you want more challenge, try Jose Rodrigues dos Santos, his books are amazing ( European Portuguese) or Chico Buarque (Brazilian Portuguese).
P.S. I've read The Hunger Games trilogy in Portuguese and loved it! In European Portuguese the official name is "Os Jogos da Fome".
Congratulations! I definitely recommend reading THG series if you are into dystopias and all that jazz.
Well I already was OK at Spanish when I started Portuguese (I took Spanish starting in 7th grade, and I am now a senior in high school). Because of this, I was able to understand a lot of Portuguese (and was able to get down word (-cion (Spanish) - cao (port), Ñ - nh, n - m (Portuguese words are often very similar to Spanish words with a few small changes that are easy to learn quickly. Its kind of intuitive, and often it is hard to explain) and those kind of things) and grammatical (the verb conjugation is very similar to Spanish with a few changes)).
I probably started with the TED talks a few months ago. So it probably took about 8-9 months for me to be watching TED talks. I was far from understanding everything, but it still helped me learn the language, and I was often able to get the overall meaning (thats a nice thing about TED talks - they are very speech based (and give many fewer cues about things based on the situation (its not like a movie where you can see exactly whats going on)) but you still do have some visual context of the slides and maybe some videos they throw in.
Some people have been requesting info on the TED talks so I might put a list of them at the top when I get around to it.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It is very valuable for me as a new member :)
No problem. A bunch of people helped (and still do help) me out when I started, so I'm happy I was able to help you.
I recommend to you the book "Memórias Póstumas de Brás Cubas" written by Machado de Assis. Particularly, this is my most preffered book I've ever read. It's a classic Brazilian literature book.
What do you recommend to me to read?
The nice thing about classics like that are they are in the public domain and can be downloaded free of charge from sites like http://www.dominiopublico.gov.br. The not so nice thing is that the language used can be challenging nowadays.
If you enjoyed that book you could find other novels by Machado de Assis just as enjoyable. They are all available here: http://machado.mec.gov.br.
(Including Memórias Póstumas de Brás Cubas:
and what I believe is considered his masterpiece Dom Casmurro:
(If you are like me and prefer a format more like a traditional book, try this instead:
O autor de Memórias Póstumas de Brás Cubas é Machado de Assis, e não Monteiro Lobato. Não é por nada não, mas se esse é seu livro favorito, você deveria saber. Espero que tenha sido apenas falta de atenção. :P
Não foi lapso de atenção, mas de memória. De fato, sempre esqueço os nomes dos autores. Hahahaha
Monteiro Lobato foi quem escreveu os livros do Sítio do Pica-Pau Amarelo. Machado de Assis - Luciola (não... Hahahaha, sei que foi o Aluísio de Azevedo). Machado de Assis - Iracema, Dom Casmurro e outros que não lembro. :-P Aluísio de Azevedo - Luciola e O Cortiço.
Editarei o primeiro post para ninguém mais ver. Hahahaha
Hahahaha Havia percebido isso há instantes, contudo não tive tempo de editar.
Como defesa, digo que sei o nome dos livros mas não faço questão de guardar o nome dos autores. Desculpem-me pelos erros, dependendo do ponto de vista, grotescos. :-P
I supposed you read well Portuguese...
Otherwise, let me translate.
I had noticed it a few moments ago, however i hadn't time to edit it
As a defense, I say that I know all the book's name but I often don't keep the author's names. Apologize me for my weird, depending on the point of view, mistakes. :-P
I don't know if I can say "apologize me" as an imperative form like I've written in Portuguese.
As viagens de guliver, Dom quixote... Filmes: Assalto ao Banco central, tropa de elite 2, a mulher invisivel. I can help you If you want to practice conversation.
I suggest A Hora da Estrela by Clarice Lispector. Very good literature, but not too hard to read.
Nice job. Spanish and Portuguese are awesome languages that open up so many worlds and opportunities. Keep it up.
Portuguese is so beautiful. I'm sure I'll get a bunch of hate for people who disagree with me for saying this, but I think Portuguese is the most beautiful language there is.
Did you watch TED talks where they actually spoke portuguese? Whee did you find those?
When I saw your subject line, I thought you had gained so much confidence from finishing the tree that you were going to go write some books in Portuguese and give some TED talks.
Try watching "Avenida Brasil." It is a telenovela, and is rather dramatic. As an "estadunidense," I was really skeptical about watching a "soap opera," but this show blew me away. The acting is good, the cinematography is good, and the story is suspenseful and engrossing. Plus there are a ton of episodes so you won't run out of content too quick. Check it out on FilmesOnlineGratis, which I have found it to be an amazing resource for all kinds of movies and TV shows that are either "legendado" or "dublado" in Portuguese.