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Tu vs. Tú? Ser vs. Estar? Please help!

Hi, I keep getting confused on when to use tu and when to use tú. I feel like maybe one shows possession(?), but I keep getting the two of them mixed up. Did I miss that lesson somewhere??

Also, I know when I took Spanish in high school there was a rule about when to use ser or estar, but I can't remember it. Anyone have any helpful tips to remember when to use each of them?

Gracias ;) -Stacy

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4 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/psionpete
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Tu = your (possessive) Tú = you (personal pronoun)

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Reply4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Stacy787

Thanks! I thought one was possessive, but was having trouble figuring out which one!

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https://www.duolingo.com/Ajray-
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I dont have my spanish b book with me but to outline the specific rules of ser and estar but my prof would tell me a good tip was to think of ser for (nearly) permanent things and estar for things that are easily changed. Ex. Ser for nationality, physical features, professions, personal characteristics Estar for emotions, someones location... cant think of any more but haha I`m sure google can help out. Sometimes they are interchangeable. "You are so beautiful" can use estar in a context when it is said on the girl's prom night and she's all dressed up for example I think por vs para is worse -.-

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https://www.duolingo.com/Stacy787

Thank you that actually does help! And yes, por vs. para is bad as well! I'll focus on that another day ;) haha!

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https://www.duolingo.com/AlexisLinguist
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¡Por y para son mis enemigos!

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https://www.duolingo.com/LICA98
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You don't use Google, do you? :P

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https://www.duolingo.com/CruzJoel

Ser

I am a man .. Soy un hombre or Yo soy un hombre

you are a person... Eres una persona or Tú eres persona

I am from... Soy de... or Yo soy de..

Estar

I am here... Estoy aquí or Yo estoy aquí

You are learning the Spanish.. Tú estas aprendiendo el Español or Estas aprendiendo el español

Espero entiendas :D

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Reply4 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Stacy787

Thank you for the examples! :)

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https://www.duolingo.com/OnesimusUnbound

Nice post on ser vs estar

http://spanishobsessed.com/spanish-grammar/ser-vs-estar/

For an example, from the post

Está borracho

  • He/she is drunk. However, this is temporary, and tomorrow he’ll be sober.

Es un borracho

  • He/she is a drunk. Using the verb ser indicates an essential characteristic of a person, indicating in this case that someone is a drunk.
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https://www.duolingo.com/Stacy787

That article was great and went way more in depth than most explanations I've heard. Thanks! I liked the DOCTOR and PLACE acronyms to help me in the beginning, but I did save the site because I'm sure I'll get tripped up still in the future. Thanks for your help!

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https://www.duolingo.com/wazzie
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Estar vs Ser

I've never been one to memorize acronyms and I never liked the inconstancy of temporary/permanent ('if I am still growing, is it soy alto or estoy alto?', why is death a temporary (estar) condition?)

Instead of thinking temporary (estar) and permanent (ser), try thinking state (estar) and essence (ser). When trying to decide which to use, ask yourself "does this make up the essence of the noun or does it describe it's current state?". It takes a little bit of brain training, but once you get the hang of it, these difference become clear.

Back to the previous examples, would you consider height part of your innate characteristic (essence) or your current state of being? The answer in this case is essence (ser). Your height is part of who you are, thus your essence.
Now it should be easy to see why death uses estar. Being dead does not change who you are, it just changes your current state of life.

Some more examples that often confuse people who only think in terms of temporary/permanent. A building's location is estar. It is describing the state of it's location. If the building is picked up and moved somewhere, the essence of the building remains the same. A party's location is ser. Where the party is located changes the essence of the party. If the party is moved from John's house to the beach, the essence of the party is going to be different.

This also makes sense in describing people.
Estoy aburrido. (I am bored.) This just describes your current state. Right now, you are bored.
Soy aburrido. (I am boring.) This describes who you are (your essence). At your core, you are a boring person.

Hope this helps, and it does take some practice to get a good 'feel' for it, but once you do, it is a lot easier then running through a list of acronyms or dealing with the confusion of permanent/temporary.

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https://www.duolingo.com/Stacy787

Wow I think that was the best description for it! Thank you so much for taking the time to describe it for me!

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https://www.duolingo.com/eshaan96

tú tienes una camisa- you have a shirt. tu camisa- your shirt. Get the difference? ser describes something of a permanent nature whereas estar is temporary. Hope it helps :)

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https://www.duolingo.com/rspreng

The permanent versus temporary thing is a great over generalization and causes all sorts of confusion. See wazzie's post above.

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https://www.duolingo.com/eshaan96

Hands down, my bad :)

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