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Solar and Lunar

My born language is Spanish and I really don´t understand what "solar" and "lunar" means, are those a different group of letters? can someone help me, guess is important for the possessives.

April 16, 2019

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/rumnraisin

(Unfortunately I can't get the dothraki.org wiki to load, so this is from memory.)

High Valyrian is a language with gender, where gender just means "category into which a noun goes". It doesn't have masculine and feminine gender, it has solar, lunar, terrestrial, and aquatic. What really characterises High Valyrian noun genders is (with a few exceptions) what the last letter is (in the nominative singular).

Nouns which end in:

  • a vowel (in the nominative singular) are nearly always lunar: vala, ābra, taoba (man, woman, boy).
  • an -s are nearly always solar: zentys, hontes, zaldrīzes (guest, bird, dragon).
  • an -n are nearly always terrestrial: blēnon (mountain).
  • an -r are nearly always aquatic: lōgor (ship).

It is also worth noting that people are often lunar, animals are often solar, and things which are liquid or associated with the sea are often aquatic.

Each gender in each declension follows slightly different patterns. An overview may look complicated, but there are patterns which the course hopefully helps the learner get a feel for. For example, the nominative plural of a solar noun is often the last vowel and consonant repeated in reverse order: hontes -> hontesse, azantys -> azantyssy, zentys -> zentyssy (birds, knights, and guests).

Just like genders in natural languages, the gender of a noun in High Valyrian will sometimes require other parts of speech to agree with it. Just like in Spanish when the ending of an adjective changes to agree with the gender of a noun, a similar thing happens in High Valyrian, except it's a little more complicated in High Valyrian. And yes it happens with the possessives too. There are declension tables for nouns and adjectives in the High Valyrian section of the wiki I linked to above. The noun and adjective agreement follows patterns with some variations (designed to make the language sound more harmonious I believe).

So we get:

  • rōva taoba (the big boy)
  • rōvys hontes (the big bird)
  • rōvon blēnon (the big mountain)
  • rōvar lōgor (the big ship)

But the endings of adjectives and nouns will change depending on the grammatical case. High Valyrian has 8 grammatical cases; in my opinion they are not as complicated as they look at first.

(Any errors in the above are my own, and I will try to correct them when either the wiki loads for me, or I am more focused on High Valyrian, or I have my own notes to hand.)

April 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Graerys

Nice overview.

April 17, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nykelos

Son los géneros en Valyrio. El idioma no usa masculino y femenino como estamos acostumbrados, sino estos cuatro géneros (solar, lunar, acuático y terrestre). Por eso una frase como "el príncipe" no tiene género en este idioma como lo tendría en inglés o español, porque su género es "solar" pero no nos dice nada de si puede ser un hombre o una mujer.

May 16, 2019
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