Laïcité = secularism
I was curious about why President Macron took the lead with public statements about the burning of Notre Dame. Where was the Archbishop of Paris? So, I looked into it. The French government owns the cathedral. Unlike, the US, when France committed to the separation of church and state it had a lot of separation work to do because the Church and State overlapped a lot. In 1905, a law made the French government neutral to religion, but it also " declared that all buildings which the state had made available to religious organizations the property of the state." Apparently, the state owns the building and the Catholic Church uses it.
I love how studying French has expanded my knowledge of the world.
I hope this post remains as a new thread because I think laïcité is a new topic.
Le message de Mgr. M. Aupetit:
Consolez, consolez mon peuple, dit votre Dieu » (Is 40,1). Ses paroles du prophète Isaïe raisonnent fortement en cette Semaine Sainte où nous accompagnons la Passion et la mort de notre Seigneur Jésus-Christ en préparant nos cœurs à la joie de sa Résurrection. Notre-Dame, notre chère cathédrale, témoin de tant d’événements majeurs de notre pays, a été détruite par un incendie effrayant après avoir résisté si longtemps aux péripéties de son histoire. La France pleure et avec elle tous ses amis du monde entier
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I clicked and read the Archbishop's remarks. Thank you. I was really taken by his beautiful French. And, I did see him on TV the day of the fire, but he was not identified as the Archbishop, but as the pastor of Notre Dame.
I love MaryAnne's post and the merging of current events, history, and culture with our study of the French language. Along with the gilets jaunes and Macron's adventures with Trump, the cathedral fire has helped me learn about French language.
That is really interesting. I spent time reading about it on some French websites, but I didn't question why it was M. Marcon who made official statements. Thanks for sharing.
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with this. I believe sometimes church and state should overlap in some cases.
Like if religious monument or others things are being destroyed. They should be able to stuff like personal investigations
True, and I think the government should be able to own something like the Notre Dame cathedral, but only because it's a historical monument, not because of it being a religious monument.
I think the decision was made to have the government own it was because the government (including kings, emperors, and tax payers) paid for it in the first place back in the day when there was no separation of church and state.
And yet, unlike the English (the Church is "established" in the United Kingdom), they don't have a word for it or "disestablishment". I think they used "séparer" and "séparation" (séparer de l'État) for their disestablishment process.
Though they did previously describe their system of government as "tricameral"... hence "the fourth estate" for the press.
Really interesting post MaryAnne.
Montesquieu is my hero. His idea of tricameral government made modern democracy with full suffrage possible. And no one ever remembers him. Of the three enlightenment thinkers, he is the one who has shaped our lives the most. Yet people are more likely to remember Voltaire and Rousseau. :(