https://www.duolingo.com/profile/rand5816

Yet another reason to hate Duolingo: Percentages?!

So before we knew exactly how many lessons before we reached the end of a level. Now we have to calculate it based off of percentages.

It's almost like the are trying to lose users at this point.

April 30, 2019

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mirandafd

Yeah, this is really annoying me so far, as well. Hopefully, they will find a more clear way to use percentages or just realize the error and revert.

April 30, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zrWknMKN

Really, HATE, HATE, HATE the percentages. It totally messes up my system of using duoling.

May 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slogger

It's almost like the[y] are trying to lose users at this point.

Yes it really does. What's most annoying is that if a lesson has not been started, the number of lessons in it isn't shown anywhere . . . except on duome.eu. To paraphrase something once said about a co-worker: "Sometimes they just ought to take the keyboards from those people's hands."

I wish Duo would transfer programmers from the GUI team to something more useful.

May 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Celica2898

It's really weird, because the skills in my updatet French tree says that X skills is like 30% done even though I haven't even done any level.

April 30, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Kit828450

I’m having this issue, too. I can only assume that the percentage done on now-purple lessons I haven’t touched are “new” words/lexemes that I’d previously encountered on the old tree (particularly since I don’t have this issue in Dutch, where the math works out for all my in-progress skills). However, if I weren’t redoing the tree in order that progress bar would make it almost impossible to tell where I actually am, and I’m basically relying on my own imperfect memory to figure out how many lessons I’ve done in a skill node.

May 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ausir

Same, and they're like that in the web version but not the app. What the hell?

April 30, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/piguy3

New tree versions have long come out with partially-complete skills, or, alternatively, showing as unstarted, but receiving credit for more lessons than actually worked through (for example, an 8-lesson skill that jumps to complete after doing three lessons).

May 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ausir

Yeah, but this isn't about the new tree version, I didn't have that when the new tree was rolled out as such, and I still don't in the app.

May 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NoNoEsImposible

I'm guessing that's because of this update.

May 24, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lycorias

It seems like a lot of websites nowadays are making their UIs more hostile to their users. If someone made a Duolingo alternative that kept all the good stuff, I can see it getting quite popular.

On a related note, as of today I can no longer see my daily score when hovering over the daily graph. It gives a number for the current day, but hovering over previous days gives nothing. Talk about dark patterns...

May 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sharon275517

This appears to be an A/B test so far. I still have lesson counts (in both browser, and iOS app).

April 30, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Monsieur.Starr

i am curious. Where do you see percentages in Duolingo?

and for @ of lessons take a look at Duome. For example it has you at 400 out of 678 lessons. https://www.duome.eu/rand5816

April 30, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mirandafd

The percentages are in place of 5/7 lessons until the next crown level on a skill. Instead it says 71% until the next crown level. It also seems like within the same level of the same skill percentages per lesson might vary.

April 30, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/piguy3

Varying percentage gains in a skill could make sense. I believe I have seen different lessons with different numbers of questions. In principle, one could even allot different "completion percentage credit" to different kinds of questions, for example, a sentence translation worth more than a fill-in-the-blank or "identify-this-character" question. The progress bar that appears while advancing through a lesson is actually based on a fairly complicated computation, including, if I recall correctly, the difficulty of the individual questions/translations found within the lesson.

May 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SKEP2l

TIP: DuoLingo IS looking for our feedback!

I saw this post from Helpfulduo: https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/31849174

... within it they give you this link to offer your feedback

GO HERE: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeBY_RqEwl2x9heBSKL0jZSnNNiW4WzNSM33ztgMJA7Y9OahQ/viewform

Might be worth trying to tell them :) btw: I agree with you!!

May 3, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/iFail

Could be good, rather than having a static amount of lessons to rank up, a dynamic amount based on personal performance. (unless the % is solely to display progress rather than a dynamic system being behind it)

April 30, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/xMira_

From what I understand it's simply to display progress. And also you can't tell how many lessons you've done/are left, which for me was a big part of the system I had going when I was here. And, yeah, you're right, it could be nice if it was performance-based, but I think it would be helpful to know which lessons you're doing I guess?

AND it would be REALLY helpful if they would communicate to us what the percentage actually means rather than just throwing it in there.

EDIT: Ah, I just realized that came off as sort of rude-- I really appreciate you and I do agree that it could be good to have some percentages thrown in there, I just wanted to throw my two cents of knowledge in there :)

May 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeNolan6

Maybe the percentages are a way of making progress through a level dependent upon how accurate you are in answering the questions?

May 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/piguy3

I'm wondering that, too. For example, see this thread: https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/31991518

Having percentage dependent on performance would be a logical next step. Even if it's not happening yet, maybe they're paving the way.

May 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/popemaria

I agree entirely. Why change the old format? Also I can't logout now!

May 25, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mike947115

They're trying to lose FREE users. They should be wanting to keep the paying Plus members, and doing everything necessary to make sure they stay.

June 7, 2019
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