https://www.duolingo.com/profile/drjanety

"Ils voyagent beaucoup." "Il voyage beaucoup." -- Auditoraly, both sound the same.

Hi, Duo - There is an extremely long discussion about this phrase when you get it as an audio question. Everyone is adamant that both the singular and the plural sound the same and need to be accepted as correct answers. The problem is, no one who has any "authority" seems to be listening. People are annoyed and becoming more so, mostly due to lack of response from the Duo team. Can someone who has some power/control please look into this and fix it so everyone stops freaking out when they get it right and it's marked incorrect?? thanks.

May 1, 2019

14 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CommeuneTexane

Hello,
You are right about the homophone issue; there are many words and phrases in French that are impossible to tell apart without context. In the past, contributors could disable audio exercises that had homophones.
This post is a bit dated, but you can read about the tree changes here: https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/29069435 I believe that everyone has tree 12 now.

The volunteer contributors have brought up this issue in the past and we continue to mention it. Staff has indicated that this is something that they are investigating. I don't know how it will be fixed or what the timeline is, unfortunately.

May 3, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/drjanety

thanks for your response! It is disconcerting when there are so many comments from people over months that seem to be ignored by The Powers That Be. Your answer, at least, let's me know that someone is Out There and looking at issues. It would really be nice to have a way to communicate with the Duo creators directly. It feels better just to know that we are being heard!

May 3, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GavanEvans

They sound the same even to a French person. As my French teacher said, the French don't know either, but have to understand from the context if it refers to 'they' or 'he'. There are lots of verbs when the 'they' and 'he' versions sound alike, pretty much only the ones with a vowel sound different because with 'ils' you use the liason, so hear the 'z' of the 's' as it slides into the vowel.

May 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dany650m

You are absolutely right. The phrases without context like here, it does not exist in a text, that's why a French, even an Academician (!) would also make the mistake . This is why Duo should not count this as false. But in this context: "Mes parents sont partis, ils voyagent beaucoup", we know that it means "ils" plural...

May 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/stupefaite

It's the same with french nouns: pronounced without -s at the end their plural and singular forms sound exactly the same. There only the arcticles to distinguish them, but for a foreigner it's still a difficult task to notice these subtle differences.

May 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/drjanety

I guess the thing that is frustrating me so much about this question is that OBVIOUSLY the question has been reported dozens of times to Duo with no Moderator commenting at all in the discussion. It feels like we are all just "shouting into the wind" or some similar analogy. How can we get Duo to acknowledge that there is a problem and that they are aware of it? that is my real question/concern.

May 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeNolan6

The moderators can't do anything about it, so leave them out of the discussion; that's up to the course authors. I'm not sure if the French 12 course was done by paid Duo staff, by volunteers, or by a combination of staff and volunteers.

May 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/drjanety

How am I supposed to know that the moderators have no control over this??? It has seemed to me for the 2 years that I've been using Duo that they do have some control. I am still asking why no one has responded to the many Reports that the question's answer is flawed. It appears that users have been reporting this for MONTHS with no resolution. Please explain why this is being overlooked by WHOEVER can address this on Duo..

May 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slogger

So why report it again? Just read the old discussions if you like to have company in your misery. The best you can do is report each instance as you find it, and hope . . . and take SandraStea1's advice about remembering which is currently accepted for a question.

May 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jeanne448353

Duo, here's a suggestion: Add an antecedent sentence to give the response context.

May 6, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeNolan6

This is why I don't do the audio questions.

May 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SandraStea1

Once you miss it, they will show you the right answer. When the question comes up again, use the answer they want. Also, did you report it, clicking on "my answer should be accepted"? That is what they listen to...and they DO listen and accept various answers, but it has to be reported.

May 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/drjanety

Well, in this case, Duo seems to be ignoring multiple reports and concerns. I don't think a language course should be about feeding back rote answers IF there are other correct answers, such as in this case.

May 1, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dany650m

This question was asked vice versa, as it often happens during exercises, which could explain the "flaw" that there can only be one accepted answer for the same two questions… :)

https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/29365334

May 1, 2019
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