After 4+ years of studying German on Duolingo, I am never pressing the "Practice" button again.
So I completed the German tree a while ago, and have been studying it for more than 4 years, among other languages in Duolingo. I stopped pressing the Practice button because the training algorithm is so terrible it makes me practice words from the first bubble (e.g. water, girl, boy, etc.). What can I do now? I am using the Stories feature, which is quite nice, but I would just like to practice sometimes the old fashioned way. Throw me harder ones Duolingo!
I think you can still click on tips and notes, then backspace the url to / and type in practice
maybe go really old fashioned and read a book? i would suggest something modern (like harry potter or so) since most famous german children books are decades old and use really intrecate grammar. that's how i learned english and how my Swedish friends learned german (they read Astrid Lindgren stories... who would have thought ;) )
The Inkheart trilogy is pretty famous and is pretty much a contemporary of Harry Potter.
German Speaker: I don't think that children's literature is easier than adult books. There are tons of good and contemporary books out there, and podcasts are always a good and free training method, too. Check out the public radio stations, like WDR or BR or HR, they all have podcasts with different topics and fairly understandable pronunciation.
It depends on what kind of children's literature you go for. I wouldn't attempt Harry Potter in German, but something short and aimed for a MUCH younger audience is a good place to start, and you can increase the difficulty from there. :)
This has a ton of resources...https://www.ardmediathek.de/ard/live/Y3JpZDovL25kci5kZS9MaXZlc3RyZWFtLU5EUi1IYW1idXJn
Just a note. I read Harry Potter in German and in English. The German was easier. :o) I learned German reading Micky Mouse comic books. And later some inexpensive little magazines: Jerry Cotton, an FBI Agent or John Sinclair, a Geisterjäger, but there are also some love stories types. If any one is interested I can find out the names. Perhaps there is a download or used. Just let me know.
It'll be massive I'm sure! French tree got an overhaul and it feels more complete and challenging.
Try watching some movies on Netflix without subtitles and see how well you can follow along.
After 4 years and completing the whole tree (probably a long time ago?), you're not a typical user that Duolingo is targeting. By now you should be either on decent level (= duolingo is too easy for you) or you actually still need to practice the basics (= duolingo still has something to offer). Seems like you are in the first group. Careful and detailed study of the Stories can give you more than the tree right now. Take your German out there, listen to radio, watch TV, read Wikipedia or books, you can practice and enhance your knowledge much more by doing that.
Actually, I completed the tree maybe 2 years ago but continued practicing once in a while. A couple of months passed without me hitting the Practice button, and now it makes me practice level 1 (rather than something more randomized!). My point is that the algorithm should be smart enough to know that with somebody's XP in a language and the fact that the tree has been completed, it is not necessary to practice the most basic of words, even if not practiced for months. I think the training algorithm's simple decision-making process aims at throwing the user the little bubble that has been practiced the least lately (i.e. Lesson 1.1).
And my point is that Duolingo can't give you much after 4 years... Also you can practice any lesson you choose.. not just the general practice. If you click on any skill that is done up to level 5 it will offer you Practice for that specific skill. Me for example I know that one of the few skills that give me some problems is Relative Pronouns 2 .. I can go to that skill and practice just that. Can't always count on algorithms to tell you what to do :-)
Same for my russian course! Testing out of skills and training on golden skills is way too easy as well! The algorithm needs to change
I think this is because Duo does not recognise, for some words, that you have practised them, and so keeps throwing them up as not having been practised for a long time: https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/23363146, https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/31581491, https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/22513769 and various other examples. I've got the same problem - a basic skill that Duo keeps throwing up the same words in, because it won't recognise that it's just given me them.
I was wondering what this issue was. I'm working on Portuguese now, and according to duome, some of the first few skills keep saying they're in need of review, even after reviewing them multiple times. This is a severe programming error that Duo needs to address.
I have Spanish skills that won't update to 100%. I believe it has to do with changes to the course material but who knows for sure.
It's evidently an issue of long-standing as I have seen threads that were years old.
As a suggestion, have you done the Reverse German Tree or tried Dutch from German ? .... these may test your German more.
Duolingo is a great tool, but it can only get you so far. It looks like you milked that course for all its worth. Thoroughly. You keep coming here out of habit, but right now you're plateauing. With an extension to the German tree announced, it's clearly worth keeping an eye on duolingo and coming back as soon as that's available. But until then I recommend the following steps:
Try out clozemaster.
Do an online test to see what level you're actually on, like for example this one: https://www.goethe.de/de/spr/kup/tsd.html
Visit the community at https://www.reddit.com/r/German/ for more resources, talking to other learners, natives, have your stuff corrected and grammar rules explained and maybe find a penpal or a language exchange, which you can't do on Duolingo, because: no private messages here!
In general, can someone say more or less how and if the duolingo level can be compared to standardized levels?
A lot of us go and take a test, even one of the mock test in DW or Goethe just to see our level. That was my question. Duolingo does not have a direct corresponding level.
it would be so nice to be able to do the course again if we so wished instead, i had to get a second account to practice japanese XD
Wait but didn't this make you start from zero? Or does testing out and moving ahead in the tree cause the Practice to be more advanced thereafter?
if you go to the actual lesson you need to practice and click the little lightbulb you can practice that individual lesson
I fully agree. The practice sentences selection algorithm should be improved.. maybe with some additional test(s) which will show weak areas..
Try to find someone you can actually practice the language with! That is better than anything!
I think you'd better venture out alone with other resources, it'll be much rewarding than to repeat the same sentences on Duolingo
I have the same problem with german, but we must remember that at the present the Duolingo german course offers A2 or B1 level at the end. It will move slowly towards B2 and so on.
Hey bro, duo's algorithm for practicing is getting better. I use it everyday and I've noticed all subjects change when I repeat it. Sometimes it comes some hard phrases I don't even remember. I advice you to try it again. After 1 years studing german, I've started to learn by stories as well, but I also need to complete my german tree. By the way stories are a great feature!!! If you don't mind, we might practice together. Let's keep posted ;)
Good for you to keep at it. I added German to my DL languages and am enjoying it. But I have the same issue in French (897 days on that language) - when they introduced the new tree they set us all back to square one with no way to test past a check point so we have to type in the simplest words over and over and over again to test out... Argh! It forces us to gives them more exposure to their ads that way though huh?
Practice is the key in any parts of our life. Just keep going with practice every day and motivate yourself.
just start watching german tv series on netflix if you want learn some more sophisticated vocabulary
Hi gerardo. I suggest you go to the web site "Deutsch. info" , and start a german course in 4 levels: A1,A2,B1, B2. In this course , there are audios, exercises an a lot of information about Germany and Austria.
Deutsche info des not offer any higher level than B2 which is accesible through Duo anyway. I do not think any higher level is accesible through internet.
Me too. You know why is it like that? Because we never used it hahahha. If we keep using it. It eill brings up more difficult practices
I made a new account for the new german tree they realeased to new users, highly reccomend. Its great. The lessons dont consist of "a cat and a dog", they use sentences and phrases you would actually use in conversation reguarly. Get on it for sure, you may have to make a couple accounts untill you get the new tree.
The thing is that if I reset it or create another account it'll start from 0 again (making me practice words like girl, boy, and dog).
You can test out of skills that you feel you don't need to complete.
In fact, I still haven't completed a skill in German; I tested out of the first three levels and I have been practicing to meet my goals and to keep up on the leader-board.
Lately, I've been working on the stories, which are fun, but pretty simple - at least, so far.
If I had made better progress in Spanish, I would be working on that but I'm just depressed about my abysmal failure to progress with it. German is fun, Spanish is pain and suffering.