https://www.duolingo.com/gerardo_ofc

After 4+ years of studying German on Duolingo, I am never pressing the "Practice" button again.

So I completed the German tree a while ago, and have been studying it for more than 4 years, among other languages in Duolingo. I stopped pressing the Practice button because the training algorithm is so terrible it makes me practice words from the first bubble (e.g. water, girl, boy, etc.). What can I do now? I am using the Stories feature, which is quite nice, but I would just like to practice sometimes the old fashioned way. Throw me harder ones Duolingo!

May 13, 2019

59 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/David904136

One can practice specific skills from https://duome.eu/USERID/progress.

May 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/BaSsGaz

Yea! Duo didn't remove the good old practice per skill feature, it's just hidden, you can access it using that duome.eu

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/TedSandila

I think you can still click on tips and notes, then backspace the url to / and type in practice

May 17, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/AntoniaIsabelle

maybe go really old fashioned and read a book? i would suggest something modern (like harry potter or so) since most famous german children books are decades old and use really intrecate grammar. that's how i learned english and how my Swedish friends learned german (they read Astrid Lindgren stories... who would have thought ;) )

May 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/5_leaf

The Inkheart trilogy is pretty famous and is pretty much a contemporary of Harry Potter.

May 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/cornelia417654

German Speaker: I don't think that children's literature is easier than adult books. There are tons of good and contemporary books out there, and podcasts are always a good and free training method, too. Check out the public radio stations, like WDR or BR or HR, they all have podcasts with different topics and fairly understandable pronunciation.

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/doctortrax

It depends on what kind of children's literature you go for. I wouldn't attempt Harry Potter in German, but something short and aimed for a MUCH younger audience is a good place to start, and you can increase the difficulty from there. :)

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Knera2

Just a note. I read Harry Potter in German and in English. The German was easier. :o) I learned German reading Micky Mouse comic books. And later some inexpensive little magazines: Jerry Cotton, an FBI Agent or John Sinclair, a Geisterjäger, but there are also some love stories types. If any one is interested I can find out the names. Perhaps there is a download or used. Just let me know.

May 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/EL5tEL

I think I read that a new German tree will be coming. I can't wait!

May 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/BaSsGaz

It'll be massive I'm sure! French tree got an overhaul and it feels more complete and challenging.

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/jsuchanek

My tree was completely gold and now I need to spend at least 5 months to make it gold again. It's quite frustrating :)

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/doctortrax

New German tree? That sounds GREAT!

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/ysmaelreyes

Try watching some movies on Netflix without subtitles and see how well you can follow along.

May 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/ally.x
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After 4 years and completing the whole tree (probably a long time ago?), you're not a typical user that Duolingo is targeting. By now you should be either on decent level (= duolingo is too easy for you) or you actually still need to practice the basics (= duolingo still has something to offer). Seems like you are in the first group. Careful and detailed study of the Stories can give you more than the tree right now. Take your German out there, listen to radio, watch TV, read Wikipedia or books, you can practice and enhance your knowledge much more by doing that.

May 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/gerardo_ofc

Actually, I completed the tree maybe 2 years ago but continued practicing once in a while. A couple of months passed without me hitting the Practice button, and now it makes me practice level 1 (rather than something more randomized!). My point is that the algorithm should be smart enough to know that with somebody's XP in a language and the fact that the tree has been completed, it is not necessary to practice the most basic of words, even if not practiced for months. I think the training algorithm's simple decision-making process aims at throwing the user the little bubble that has been practiced the least lately (i.e. Lesson 1.1).

May 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/ally.x
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And my point is that Duolingo can't give you much after 4 years... Also you can practice any lesson you choose.. not just the general practice. If you click on any skill that is done up to level 5 it will offer you Practice for that specific skill. Me for example I know that one of the few skills that give me some problems is Relative Pronouns 2 .. I can go to that skill and practice just that. Can't always count on algorithms to tell you what to do :-)

May 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Rojan1903

Same for my russian course! Testing out of skills and training on golden skills is way too easy as well! The algorithm needs to change

May 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/A_Copeland

I think this is because Duo does not recognise, for some words, that you have practised them, and so keeps throwing them up as not having been practised for a long time: https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/23363146, https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/31581491, https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/22513769 and various other examples. I've got the same problem - a basic skill that Duo keeps throwing up the same words in, because it won't recognise that it's just given me them.

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Ontalor

I was wondering what this issue was. I'm working on Portuguese now, and according to duome, some of the first few skills keep saying they're in need of review, even after reviewing them multiple times. This is a severe programming error that Duo needs to address.

May 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/David904136

I have Spanish skills that won't update to 100%. I believe it has to do with changes to the course material but who knows for sure.

It's evidently an issue of long-standing as I have seen threads that were years old.

May 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/TJTitmus

As a suggestion, have you done the Reverse German Tree or tried Dutch from German ? .... these may test your German more.

May 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/pentaan

Unfortunately, Duolingo does not have a course "Dutch for German speakers".

May 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/gerardo_ofc

This would've been great though!

May 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Jagerboy96

I agree it's been that way for a long time

May 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/PeterPan173079

Duolingo is a great tool, but it can only get you so far. It looks like you milked that course for all its worth. Thoroughly. You keep coming here out of habit, but right now you're plateauing. With an extension to the German tree announced, it's clearly worth keeping an eye on duolingo and coming back as soon as that's available. But until then I recommend the following steps:

Try out clozemaster.

Do an online test to see what level you're actually on, like for example this one: https://www.goethe.de/de/spr/kup/tsd.html

Visit the community at https://www.reddit.com/r/German/ for more resources, talking to other learners, natives, have your stuff corrected and grammar rules explained and maybe find a penpal or a language exchange, which you can't do on Duolingo, because: no private messages here!

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Lorel90

You are totally right. What is your German level (B1, B2)?

May 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/gerardo_ofc

Not sure, never did a standard test. I'd say intermediate in layman's terms.

May 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Nonformallife

In general, can someone say more or less how and if the duolingo level can be compared to standardized levels?

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Lorel90

A lot of us go and take a test, even one of the mock test in DW or Goethe just to see our level. That was my question. Duolingo does not have a direct corresponding level.

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Nonformallife

Ok, danke dir :)

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Eric31742

I'll be heading over to DW for that at some point!

May 21, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Mar.Maru

it would be so nice to be able to do the course again if we so wished instead, i had to get a second account to practice japanese XD

May 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/gerardo_ofc

Wait but didn't this make you start from zero? Or does testing out and moving ahead in the tree cause the Practice to be more advanced thereafter?

May 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/ChayChay1247

if you go to the actual lesson you need to practice and click the little lightbulb you can practice that individual lesson

May 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Jar408344

I fully agree. The practice sentences selection algorithm should be improved.. maybe with some additional test(s) which will show weak areas..

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Sevenjetc

Maybe move on from duolingo to some other resources, like Deutsche für dich? https://www.goethe.de/prj/dfd/de/home.cfm

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Nonformallife

Try to find someone you can actually practice the language with! That is better than anything!

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/BaSsGaz

I think you'd better venture out alone with other resources, it'll be much rewarding than to repeat the same sentences on Duolingo

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/JacobTrage1

i hope i learn German language perfectly

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/PeterPan173079

Viel Spaß und viel Erfolg!

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/RodrigoRequiao

I agree with you! To me, the old "practice" was so much better, when the basic skills would remain golden as long as you would keep practicing the harder ones.

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/fc0292

I have the same problem with german, but we must remember that at the present the Duolingo german course offers A2 or B1 level at the end. It will move slowly towards B2 and so on.

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/RillerVincci

Hey bro, duo's algorithm for practicing is getting better. I use it everyday and I've noticed all subjects change when I repeat it. Sometimes it comes some hard phrases I don't even remember. I advice you to try it again. After 1 years studing german, I've started to learn by stories as well, but I also need to complete my german tree. By the way stories are a great feature!!! If you don't mind, we might practice together. Let's keep posted ;)

May 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Naz594800

If I were at that level, I would just start reading German books.

May 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/deborah853655

Good for you to keep at it. I added German to my DL languages and am enjoying it. But I have the same issue in French (897 days on that language) - when they introduced the new tree they set us all back to square one with no way to test past a check point so we have to type in the simplest words over and over and over again to test out... Argh! It forces us to gives them more exposure to their ads that way though huh?

May 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Glykeria8

Wow.. 4 years of practice? Your german must be amazing!

May 17, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/IrinaDmitrieva1

Practice is the key in any parts of our life. Just keep going with practice every day and motivate yourself.

May 17, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/JaredFreem5

just start watching german tv series on netflix if you want learn some more sophisticated vocabulary

May 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Cristobal477019

Hi gerardo. I suggest you go to the web site "Deutsch. info" , and start a german course in 4 levels: A1,A2,B1, B2. In this course , there are audios, exercises an a lot of information about Germany and Austria.

May 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Bekir978479

Deutsche info des not offer any higher level than B2 which is accesible through Duo anyway. I do not think any higher level is accesible through internet.

May 21, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/ghostnos

Es ist zu einfach? Es soll was geben wo es schwerer macht, ja?

May 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/BurhanQerimi

deine saztformulierung macht keine sinne!

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/aminbehravan

Me too. You know why is it like that? Because we never used it hahahha. If we keep using it. It eill brings up more difficult practices

May 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/rhyhislop2

I made a new account for the new german tree they realeased to new users, highly reccomend. Its great. The lessons dont consist of "a cat and a dog", they use sentences and phrases you would actually use in conversation reguarly. Get on it for sure, you may have to make a couple accounts untill you get the new tree.

May 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Jonathan216867

you can teset it or just create another account

May 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/gerardo_ofc

The thing is that if I reset it or create another account it'll start from 0 again (making me practice words like girl, boy, and dog).

May 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/David904136

You can test out of skills that you feel you don't need to complete.

In fact, I still haven't completed a skill in German; I tested out of the first three levels and I have been practicing to meet my goals and to keep up on the leader-board.

Lately, I've been working on the stories, which are fun, but pretty simple - at least, so far.

If I had made better progress in Spanish, I would be working on that but I'm just depressed about my abysmal failure to progress with it. German is fun, Spanish is pain and suffering.

May 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Naz594800

Don't worry, once you enter the 4th set they'll get harder.

May 17, 2019
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