Yes or no: Duolingo should add more achievements, some specific to your language you're learning.
I think it would be great for Duolingo to add specific and different achievements for what ever language you're learning, I feel like this would be more rewarding and you could get lingots from them.
bonus lessons in all languages would be great, in Italian there are bonus lessons but in Swedish there are none
could you tell me what bonus lessons are? I only started 12 days ago and up to now I've only done swedish.
oh that's sad, because I'm Chinese and there are many Chinese idioms and proverbs worth learning
Why are these lessons bonus (have to be payed for in lingots). Why are they not just main lessons. One issue is that, in French, 'i am called' is in a bonus.
I think it's helpful to distinguish things like expressions and proverbs from the regular process of language learning. Many sayings do not translate literally or do not make grammatical sense, and could be confusing for those beginning to learn the language. I think having it as an optional add-on is a great solution because people can learn it if and when they like. However I totally agree that "I am called" should be in a main lesson.
That’s in the free lesson “Introduction” in German. Why is it not in French?
This too. I have slots for bonus lessons and none available and the bonus lessons I have done give me no real incentive to return to them.
yea, I'm already starting to get more than I can spend, and I have only been going for just over a month
Yes. I have 488 lingots and there is no point to them except as streak savers or weekend amulets, which I rarely use anyway.
I think that there should definitely be some more achievements! Here are some ideas:
Leagues - Star 1: Enter Gold League, Star 2: Enter Platinum League, Star 3: Enter Ultimate League
Lingot Saver - Star 1: Have 20 lingots, Star 2: Have 100 lingots, Star 3: have 250
Motivator - Star 1: Give 25 upvotes, Star 2: Give away 5 lingots, Star 3: Get 40 upvotes on one comment/post
Big-Timer - Star 1: Use Duolingo for 120 minutes, Star 2: Use Duolingo for 400 minutes, Star 3: Use Duolingo for 1000 minutes
Student - Star 1: Do 10 lessons, Star 2: Do 50 lessons, Star 3: Do 250 lessons!
How do you like these ideas? If you have any others, I would love to hear them!!
Just gave you the one lingot I won after one hour of learning German, that's how I did like your ideas.
Some language learning companies offer accredited language tests that are equivalent to the A1, A2, B1, and B2 levels. If I could use my lingots to take a language test that would be relevant to my CV--that would be amazing.
That's a great idea! Even if you couldn't add it to your CV, but could still take the test to understand what level you have attained would be good.
I can't really think that those achievements would be apart from stuff like "did all the exercises about [insert tense]", which doesn't seem very rewarding. I like achievements but I wouldn't want them added for the sake of adding more.
I liked the achievement of being able to answer questions in the language which we used to have in clubs. There was a phrase such as 'Use bicicleta in a sentence' or a picture you had to describe, or a scenario. Writing a sentence in the language gave you 2 XP too. And it is fun when friends join in. I gather that's gone with Leaderboards (which I've just transferred to today). I'll miss it. It used to make me think in the language (like kids do when they are learning mother tongue).
I also enjoy the badges/acheivements and would love for there to be more! For example, mastering all of the past tense verb conjugations or learning 50 words for food. I think they should also be more visible to others.
This is just me being a spoil sport, but you can always make your own achievements and rewards.
Ex. Unlock entire tree, buy beginner book to read in target language.
Unless lingots become the new Bitcoin and surge to $10,000 dollars apiece, I have little use for them.
Extra incentives could help, but the problem with incentives is that they need careful design to improve language learning. I read that people are doing repeat exercises in the basics to go higher up the league tables. The design must be to encourage you to do more and repeat exercises where it is useful. This is probably working for most people but not all. The incentive of the crowns is useful if the exercises are designed well. I tested out to Level 5 in Italian just to find that the exercises were no better than at Levels 3 and 4. I am working therefore on German, which I am not learning from scratch, at levels 3 and 4. What Duolingo needs to do is carefully design and monitor its incentive schemes.
Personally, l would like this but l don’t see much purpose in adding specific achievements, it’s really only for the sake of feeling good but the proposal that these achievements would reward lingots is interesting...I would rather we have bonus lessons that we can earn in specific ways. Either through crowns or lingots. -cookieyoshi
The stories they introduced are fantastic! Honestly the most engaging aspect of duolingo (it also helps that you can reach your daily goal pretty quickly buying doing 2 or 3 stories)
Here's an idea: What if you could use Lingots to buy some time of Duolingo Plus? Even letting people buy some of the benefits, like a week of add-free or a month of free practice tests would be very nice. I know this might be financially disadvantageous, but seeing as Duolingo already has these special perks, they could easily put them in the store and give us something else to spend our Lingots on.
Might not be financially disadvantageous because if we bought a "teaser" with ingots, we might decide to update with real money.
I like this. But can we just focus on improving the language courses?
I know this would be a real motivator, though.
I don't think Doulingo needs another source of lingots, as they become useless at some point. So what you are asking for is basically the crown system, where you get rewards for completing lessons on specific topics...
if lingots were more useful for learning the language like the idioms lesson that you can buy, then lingots would be more useful and therefore achievements gifting lingots would help
Lingots are never useless. Streak freezes, donating to new people on the forums, etc etc...
Well, this kind of depends. At the beginning of the course, you should not get Acheivements quickly, because you are still working up the tree and this (at least for me) is gratifying in itself.
So, achievements should start later in the course, at which point you will have accumulated much more lingots. You have ~16 right now, so yes, they do have value. If you stay with duolingo, you can collect much more, and once you are above 500 they become useless (yes, the 10 for the streak freeze are still nice, but what do i do with a few thousand?)
I miss being able to take a progress test by spending lingots. I know it's part of premium now, but it was nice.
Yes. There should definitely be an achievement for mastering the distinction between 'estar' and 'ser' in Spanish, the definite and indefinite verb conjugation in Hungarian, or the distinction between the は and が particles in Japanese, or for mastering the subjunctive tenses in any of the Romance languages (well, maybe except for Romanian where things are much easier!)
I would like it if they allowed you to use lingots to have premium access. Like using so many for an hour or a day. I think a lot of people would like this. Also, since they have started having leagues, why not have leagues specific to the language you are learning instead of just everyone together.
100% agree! I would love to also see bonus lessons in the dialect you are needing to learn in. Duolingo is teaching what is known as "high german" that doesn't make sense in the state that I live in, so I feel like, even once I'm fluent in german, I still may not be able to communicate with the people around me
I believe doing this would greatly incentivize progress in your specific language, this should also be followed by a greater number of uses for the lignots once you are able to achieve these tasks and get rewarded.
Duo already gives lingots out a lot. They’re supposed to be a reward, but they are given out too often to count as such, I believe. More bonus lessons would be great! (For Russian, all you have to buy is timed practice, and you can’t do much with the lingots that have already piled up)
That's a great idea! I think it would improve the learner's experience and their enthusiasm to continue on there path!
Yes Please! I find achievements to be way more motivating than anything like leagues. It would be cool to get achievement badges for things like streaks within lessons and such. Personally, it would be much more motivating for consistency and accuracy.
TEA!!! It's a very pretty site but in terms of solidly teaching conjugation and grammar rules it is severely lacking! it is ok to get a small, conversational ability but not much more
I've earned plenty of rewards (lingots) but they would be more motivating if there was something useful to spend them on. I feel most rewarded when I can read the stories and listen to podcasts and understand them. DL stories should be available in every language.
Also I think there should be more things to choose from in the lingot store. As motivating as the leaderboards are to make you practice more to win lingots, it doesn’t really help when you’ve got all these lingots and nothing to do with them
Agreed, agree and AGREE!!! I know what you mean. I have all of these lingots and for what? I dunno. It's not like I have anything to spend it on.
Also, I think it would be great if there was a way to denote to others that you have completed a course. Maybe the flag and level could be displayed in a golden background then.
Do you have any ideas for language specific achievements, i would like to hear them.
Also! The format of the lessons and repetitive nature of phrases and sentences is not necessarily ideal :(
Totally agree. More achievements would be great, but new achievements related to the language you're learning would be awesome!
I would definitely would love to see more achievements other then the few they have
Yes, there should be more costumes, mini-games and achievements and have languages specific rewards for what languages you're learning. This might help people to learned other languages other than what you're intending.
A clear marking in the tree of where A1, A2, B1, etc. begins/ends. This way you can easily see for yourself how far you are into a particular section. By the way, I'm glad Duo is aligning with CEFR and I hope they continue to add all the levels.
i'd personally like it, it'd give more of a challenge and i like achievements (don't judge me)
Medals, Badges, yes. Not sure about specific language, these things take time. But more medals, badges etc would be nice. ps. follow? (only if you're active)
yes I agree with your thoughts. it is very hard to earn lingots just from learning the material. i want duolingo to challenge us in ways where we could earn much more lingots just by completing harder challenges. i just hop it turns out ok and duolingo doesn't put in challenges that gives only 5 lingots a challenge
Personally, I'm not here to "play a game". Winning tokens, or people following me, etc., doesn't matter. I get an email telling me some guy is following me and has 60,000+ more points (or whatever they're called) than I have. So what? I'm just looking for another way to help myself learn Spanish. If I'm studying Spanish, would one of these "specific to your language" achievements be a taco icon that I can't do anything with in real life? Just add more lessons. I guess the game aspect would be appealing to the children, though.
I just have to disagree with your whole comment. While you may not be here to "play a game", as you put it, that is exactly the style that Duolingo teaches in. Games are proven to help us learn, no matter what your age is. Plus, it's a lot easier to keep coming back to do your lessons if it feels more like a game than a chore. I do my lessons mostly when I'm bored, sitting on the toilet, or waiting in the ortho office for an appointment. If you'd like a language learning app that has no game aspect, maybe try Babble?
It depends on how it is used. Properly used it can be a good soil conditioner and lead to better results in future. Wrongly used it can cause pollution and ecological damage. I therefore agree with your analogy with incentive schemes.