Danish for English speakers is now in the Incubator!
We mentioned more Scandinavian languages for English speakers would come to the Incubator soon. Today we're excited to share that Danish is the next Scandinavian language to be added.
And in case you missed it, here's last week's announcement about Swedish :) https://www.duolingo.com/comment/3192773
Hopefully, but if this indicates anything, the next languages to be added are going to be Esperanto and Klingon (I have no idea what the last three flags mean).
Edit: It seems those new flags were created so Duolingo could add those languages to the incubator application for people who want to create a new course in one of those languages. It doesn't really mean those are going to be the next languages. The Israeli flag has been there for a while but we still don't have a Hebrew course. I shouldn't have posted that link.
One of them (the horse head) appears to be Dothraki perhaps? (à la Game of Thrones/A Song of Ice and Fire by George R. R. Martin) and I'm guessing the fanciful leaf is an Elvish language by J. R. R. Tolkien? Also, if you want your child to grow up to be an amazing fantasy writer, the trick is to give them two middle names beginning with "R."
Also, Tokien was a famous scholar of the Gothic language. Reading Wright's "Grammar of the Gothic Language" was a life changing event for him. He even wrote poetry in Gothic, specifically, "Bagmē Blōma" which is famous among Gothic scholars and philologists. Just an FYI ;)
Seriously? I don't care if I get a million downotes for this, but that's ridiculous. Why are they even bothering with Klingon? Who will ever use it? People will all join the course, get to level 2, and never look the tree again.
If people want to spend their time making the course, and people want to spend time learning it, it doesn't cause Duo any more stress for them to do so, so why not let them?
You underestimate people's passions greatly if you truly think that's the case. :P
There was allegedly a parent who raised his child to the age of three solely on Klingon. Apparently subsequently the child learned American and it never progressed much beyond that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon_Language_Institute#d.27Armond_Speers
There are a lot of reasons to learn a language. Utility is just one of them ;) Some people are attracted to obscure languages, maybe because they want to journal in them or have a 'secret language' that only they and their friend speak.
A friend of mine and I chose to learn Polish in high school just so no one would understand us when we wrote notes or talked to each other about people, like the silly young people we were. When it became difficult, he dropped it but I was too invested to let it go. Learning Polish became a passion of mine, and I even spent a summer in Poland during college, falling in love with the people and country.
Sure, no one will be visiting the fantasy worlds of Toklien and Martin and...Star Trek people? But, if it brings people together and gets them interested in language learning, Duo is here to open the doors. :)
I don't have the time now but when I was in high school I tried learning Klingon, I still have the dictionary and grammar guide somewhere I think. If this had been around then I would've been all over it. :P
Same for Quenya, I'm less fussed on Sindarin and Game of Thrones and so Dothraki wasn't a thing when I was that age.
Yeah, but imagine being able to pull a Klingon woman. She'd be able to take BDSM to a whole new level ;)
Not necessarily...by extremely endangered languages (as amazing that is) it doesnt get that many jobs
I don't even count Klingon as a language. It just sounds way too unnatural IMO.
Marc Okrand (the creator) made it sound unnatural deliberately, since it's supposed to be an alien language and all. :P
Cool! I've got a question. How are the new audio for new courses made? I mean do contributors do it or staff find someone for the job?
So am I! Out of all the Scandinavian languages, Norwegian would be the one I would want to learn most as learning it would help my Dutch and Norway is a country I've always wanted to visit. I don't like Danish because it reminds me too much of French, a language I passionately despise.
danes pronounce some letters far down in their troath... I always think it sounds like they got a potato stuck down there... (native norwegian speaker).
Dang it. Just when I had chosen Dutch over Swedish, they add Danish into the mix :/
I'm doing that, it's my plan give them all a try why not ;) it's in our crazy culture/language loving blood
How are you learning so many languages simultaneously?
I am learning five, but since I live in Germany, the german app is rather like practice. I studied french extensively durring and after college, practicing with Duolingo is a great boost while refreshing my skill with the language. Dutch, I had attempted several years ago, because I had considered relocating to Amsterdam. A few years ago I had the good fortune to be taught spanish by a native speaker who wanted to perfect his teaching skill. At the end of the first year I could write simple letters and read articles, but I couldn't hold a conversation. The spanish app is aiding me to maintain my meager knowledge of spanish.
Danish was completely new to me. I love the Duolingo app, and I study all the languages daily. I find five languages demanding and I cannot imagine taking on another, even though I'd like to study Italian.
If you have some secret about remembering vocablulary, rules, or learning a new language please share it with me.
I don't have a secret, honestly I'm still monolingual I'm not some sort of amazing polyglot although that is the dream ;).
But I will say memrise is really good for vocab, I use that often I also make my own courses for myself with certain things I find hard to remember. You have to personalise what you're learning, make it suit your needs. If there are certain rules you find hard to remember write them down, have them somewhere close so that you will read it often and practice it over and over until it becomes second nature, boring, but it works.
I also learn a couple others outside of duo but my main focuses are on; French, Korean, Italian and Mandarin. What really works for me is immersing myself in the language; music, tv, news, radio just anything that will help you understand the spoken side and the culture too. Also having a native speaker to talk to really helps, find a language partner, for me that really helped me kick-start a language, even though I have little confidence in speaking, my language partner is in the same boat, worried about their English pronunciation and now when we talk I help correct pronunciation and same goes.
I'd just say do what you're comfortable doing, you can have a dabble in Italian haha, if you find it too much to learn so many at once just focus on your main goal and then once you're comfortable with that you can add.
Dutch will, presumably, be finished a good amount of time before Danish, so why not just start with Dutch first?
But yeah, choices are hard. I'm a Dutchie learning French at the moment, and want to learn a Scandinavian language after that, and I'm glad Duo is starting to support those! I will probably go with Danish over Swedish myself.
Here's a story you migth like:
I am a Dane fluent in English, but nobody is perfect so when I was in Schipol Airport on my way to Bryssel, I was looking for a charger (because I forgot mine at home). I found an employee that told me the price and I was calculating price to my own currency. He asked me what I was doing, and I said "Calculating VALUTA", and a second after that I was afraid to look really stupid, but he understood me. Dutch and Danish are both using two genders: common and neuter.
Good for you! That's actually not very common from what my experience, too bad to see people prefering other scandinavian languages, being a native Dane myself, but cool man, good luck
It does - some of us Danes says that Swedish is just Danish pronounced wrong
Haha, I like that. (Just to be clear: I have nothing against Swedish, I'm just extremely fond of the sound of Danish).
I can't wait to be able to understand what Sarah Lund is saying without having to read the subtitles! :)
Well, it's mostly because a relative of mine has a Dane as a spouse, and thus I meet a lot of Danes. If that wouldn't be the case, I honestly wouldn't know which of the three to learn, but series as Borgen and Forbrydelsen make a strong point for Danish :)
I totally agree with you on that one. I've been dying to try Icelandic!
While Norwegian would be considered Scandinavian or Nordic, and Finland borders Sweden, Finnish is completely different, only related to Estonian and Hungarian.
An interesting point of discussion. Finnish is geographically Scandinavian, and Finnish is spoken in Scandinavia, therefore it is a Scandinavian language, though it is not North Germanic as Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, Icelandic, and Faroese are. If you are using Scandinavian as synonymous with North Germanic, Finnish is definitely not. It would be sort of a semantics game I suppose?
But as a matter of fact Finland is actually not a part of Scandinavia (Denmark, Norway, and Sweden). It is though a part of the Nordic countries (Denmark (including Greenland and the Faroe Islands), Norway, Sweden, Finland (including the Åland Islands), and Iceland), and so is Iceland. So therefore Finnish would not be considered a Scandinavian language. :-) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia)
Some people do use "Scandinavia" in an extended sense to include Finland and/or Iceland: see this map, for example . The definition of Scandinavia is, as you say, a semantics game. Like many questions that have very little practical significance, it tends to attract endless quantities of impassioned debate -- just look at the Wikipedia article's talk page!
What the heck was that... O.o
Why must I click on mysterious links?? I tell my mum not to do so all the time!
Recommended viewing, if you enjoy a healthy dollop of weirdness :-).
Thank you for the context! Maybe when the courses go live I can watch it for practice...and nightmares, by the sound of the plot synopsis! ;)
Is this meant to be a race? Or is the offset of a week meant to avoid a race? I though it appealing at first, letting the nordics fight for the pride of their country - but actually I prefer a good course rather than a rush through. Having more language learners might be a nice race, though. Go team Norway!!
Oh not the tired old horse for Sweden – there isn't a sculpture of it anyway, is there? (I hope not.) The Gävle goat would be better then, at least it exists (sometimes.)
Edit: of course there is a 13 meters high Dalahäst in Avesta. I should have known. I'll just have to hope and pray they won't make it into the course symbol.
If Norway weren't that for its graphic, I suspect that the gods would be most displeased. :P
Thank you so much to the duolingo team once again, you're always exceeding my expectations! :)
Sooo exciting! Danish is one of my favourite languages for sure. I will also refresh my Swedish when it comes. (I've studied it for 9 years but I'm also terribly lazy maintaining it. Duolingo is fun so maybe I'd get excited about the language again :)
Another Language is awesome!
I know this is primary an English based site, but do you think other non-English to non-English courses be added?
Yes: Icelandic is a West Scandinavian language, like Norwegian. alexinIreland is also correct in saying it's a North Germanic or Nordic language, but wrong in saying that this means it's not Scandinavian: the North Germanic (or Nordic) languages also include Swedish, Norwegian, and Danish.
No, Icelandic is a North Germanic or Nordic language.
Swedish, Danish, and Norwegian are also North Germanic or Nordic languages. That doesn't mean they're not Scandinavian.
I'm so happy about this, I don't know why but there is just something about Danish I adore!
Chinese already has a team, but they're currently working on the English for Chinese speakers course. A reverse course will come when their current project is deemed ready enough to take on the next.
As for Latin, Luis has promised that it will be added in his last Ask Me Anything on reddit, but has not stated a timeframe. Demand is there though.
Yes another language from my heritage! I think I'll make a discussion about it.
Can you add RSS to each of the languages in the incubator so I don't have to check every day if there's any announcement?
This makes me so so happy! And thank you so much (tusind tak) to the Danes willing to help!!
Today the Danish course has surpassed the progress of the Swedish course.
Danish course - 12.62% (estimated completion date - June 28, 2014)
Swedish course - 11.53% (estimated completion date - July 30, 2014)
Ahh this is finally happening, we're getting the Scandinavian languages! Thank you! I hope Norwegian is next in line, and maybe, just maybe, we can soon get Finnish too. And I hope my Incubator application is still valid for Finnish even though it has already been 8 months since I sent it on the launching day :) (It really has been a long time, huh.)
I really hope you can contribute for Finnish! I am an American who has been teaching myself Finnish for about four years but I'm still not great. I would study Finnish nonstop for days if it was released on Duolingo. It is such an aesthetically pleasing language....Haluan Suomi!
Hello! I am not sure I follow the conversation perfectly well, but I am very interested in learning Danish and will move to Copenhagen in September. Is there a chance that the Danish Duolingo will be launched before then? :) this is exciting.
I'm sure it will certainly be added before September. If you go to this page, you will see that the estimated date of completion is 8th July. Now from the looks of the progress, it will probably be a bit after that, but you'll have plenty of time to learn it before you go to Denmark. Viel Glück!
There is English for Japanese speakers already in the incubator. When that is done they will make Japanese for English speakers.
I know, which is need wait the Eng for Jap course graduate from BETA. That's why I wish. Hope they graduate soon. xD
I would love that! Would be really hard though. Perhaps they can do just Romaji? I really want to learn Japanese some day (watching animes helps), but learning all the kanji/katakana/hiragana is just a no-go. Doing just the Romaji would be a good solution.
>watching anime helps
Heck yeah it does. Have a lingot for being awesome.
I also agree with the Romaji. The Kana and Kanji aren't actually that hard imo; It's just bruteforce memorization. The hard part for me is the vocabulary and grammar.
I Would imagine a hirigana/katakana/kanji component would be important if we are going to be working in Immersion. Although, not all beta courses have an Immersion at this time. I don't know if Japanese for English speakers will have it or not. But, just in case, I made This Discussion a while back. ^_^
But this Japanese discussion is a little off topic. So, if you want to talk more about it, maybe move to the discussion I linked to above. ;)
Awesome! I'm 1/4 Danish and I recently wanted to try it out. Can't wait for the course to be released!
That won't happen - English for Chinese is the first step in the process in this case.
It's just the way it works - they do the course one way, and then move on to the opposite direction. English for Chinese speakers started first, so Chinese for English speakers will come afterwards.
So did I, I'm in China now but I'm leaving in about three months and at this rate that's probably when the course will come out :P
This has just made my day. I'm trying to learn Danish as well as German, it'd be nice to have both on the same website.
Thank you, people of Duolingo. :-)
Thank you so much Duolingo! I screamed with excitement when i saw this!! Yay!!! I´ve started learning Danish with Memrise just to get a little bit of an insight, but having on Doulingo will be excellent! I can´t wait!
I've been watching too many Danish movies and tv series not to get at least a bit interested in the language! This is great news :)
Please bring in Estonian! There's no good options to study it anywhere!