https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alec013

When to use ''Mi'' or ''Mit'' / ''Több'' or ''Többet''

Example: Mi az? = What is this Mit csinálsz = What are you doing?

Why isn't it ''Mi csinálsz''? Why isn't it ''Mit az''?

Next example: The word for more is ''több''

''Ma nem sétálok többet''

Why and when do I have to use just ''több'' / ''mi'' and when do I have to use the additional ''t'' like in ''többet'' or ''mit''?

Thank you

June 5, 2019

16 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Judit294350

The -t in Hungarian is the way you show the accusative - the direct object of a verb.

The verb "to be" (am, is, are) never takes an accusative (in any language).

Csinálni (to make) does take an accusative, so the thing you make needs the -t.

June 5, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LICA98

The verb "to be" (am, is, are) never takes an accusative (in any language)

how do you know that?

June 6, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HirundoPrima

To use the accusative after the verb "to be" doesn't make any sense. You can use a case after "to be" (e.g. instrumental in Polish in certain cases), but the accustive without a preposition is a direct object, and "to be" has no object at all.

June 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Judit294350

I don't - I am working off my understanding of what an accusative is and what the verb to be is. Have you found an exception?

June 6, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LICA98

well no but to say "in any language" is quite a generalization

June 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Judit294350

As the accusative case is used to mark the direct object of a transitive verb - and the verb "to be" is intransitive then it isn't a generalization.

June 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Judit294350

@LICA - that is the definition of an accusative.

June 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LICA98

are you sure that every single language in the world uses accusative like that?

June 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ka_HU

Mit csinálsz = What are you doing (what is the "verb/action" that you are doing). The "t" marks this verb/action in these examples.

Mit csinálsz? Futok. (I'm running)

Mit csinálsz? Főzök (I'm cooking)

Mit csinálsz? Egy képet festek (I'm painting a picture).

Mit eszel? (What are you eating?) The "t" marks the object that you are asking about.

I'm eating banana (Banánt eszek)

June 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Andreas305

The combination of the suffix "-t" with a noun marks the accusativ, the object. So far so clear.

But the "-t" at the end of an adjective is not related to the accusative but showing a form of adverb.

There are some few adjectives, describing a quantity, which have two forms of adverbs: the regular one with the suffix "-n" and a second one with the suffix "-t".

sok => sokan / sokat

kevés => kevesen / kevéset

több => többé / többet (not an adjective itself but a irregular comparative form)

The version with "-n" is used for describing amounts of people.

Ezt csak kevesen tudják! = There are only a few they know this.

Már sokan várnak a sorban. = There are already a lot of people waiting in the line.

The form with "-t" is for describing amounts of other objects.

Sokat elfelejtettem. = I forgot a lot.

Kevéset láttam! = I didn't see much. (I am not use to say "little" this way in English)

Please, if I am wrong, correct me.

But I also had a lot of trouble with these words, until I found out that kind of explanation.

June 12, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Judit294350

But the "-t" at the end of an adjective is not related to the accusative but showing a form of adverb.

Actually, adjectives can take a -t and form an accusative. When translating into English you will often add a "one(s)". "Milyen autókat szeretsz?" (What kind of cars do you like?) "Feketéket." (Black ones)

June 12, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Andreas305

But this is not an adjective anymore, it is a nominalized adjective, so the adjective becomes the character of a noun.

June 13, 2019
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