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"Audio does not sound correct"

I suspect I'm preaching to the converted on this forum, but if you have a complaint about the audio, please include a freewrite report, or come here to explain the problem. When all we get is a tickbox "audio does not sound correct" we don't know if it means:

  • a tile in one of the sentence-building exercises is silent when you click on it (it just means that no speaker has yet recorded that word individually)

  • the speaker is saying "test test test" or "De'wI'vam QIp vIQaw'rup" instead of the proper phrase (shouldn't happen, and is a priority to fix)

  • the audio is missing altogether - i.e. it hasn't been recorded yet, or only one of the M/F voices has been recorded, and Duo tried to play the other one

  • the speaker coughs or taps the microphone or mumbles while recording

  • the student can't believe that the sound Q or tlh is real, and thinks the speaker is coughing or mumbling

  • there is a mispronunciation

  • the phrase is voiced too slowly or too quickly

  • there is an audible microphone on/off click at the beginning or end of the recording. (Not ideal, but not a priority, as you can still hear the phrase. Think of it as subspace noise).

A freewrite comment or a post here on what you feel is wrong with the audio will help a lot.

Feel free to comment here on what your audio pet peeves are.

  • Qov
June 12, 2019

7 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jsc125706

I really like hearing the diphthongs. I didn't know they could form between the prefix and the root verb until I heard it. (bIyaj'a') I was only looking for diphthongs in the root words before. Qapla'!

June 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jdmcowan

Theoretically, a diphthong should not form there. The y and the w should really only form diphthongs when they follow a vowel in the same syllable. When carefully pronouncing a word like bIyaj'a', proper pronunciation would be to maintain a clear and separate vowel and y.

In reality, when one is speaking normally, and y or w follows a syllable ending in a vowel, the distinction between the preceding vowel and the consonant is often relaxed and a slight diphthong can form.

An interesting additional note is that syllables ending in Ir and Ing also tend to cause the preceding I to close and sound more like the diphthong Iy.

June 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jsc125706

That's really helpful to know.

June 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DavidTrimb3

This is not correct.

The Klingon diphthongs are:

aw, ay, ew, ey, Iw, Iy, o, oy, u, uy

Although the word diphthong does not appear in The Klingon Dictionary, he nevertheless describes diphthongs without using the word.

Because w and y are glides, they form diphthongs. You'll notice that I include o and u and not ow or uw: that's because ow and uw would sound exactly the same as o and u, so no Klingon words have ow or uw.

Be careful not to interpret these combinations as diphthongs across syllable boundaries. gho circle has the diphthong o in it. ghoyaj Understand us! does not have the diphthong oy in it, it has gho- plus yaj.

As for Ir or Ing sounding like Iyr or Iyng, you should avoid doing that. TKD says:

I As English i in misfit. Once in a while, it is pronounced like i in zucchini, but this is very rare and it is not yet known exactly what circumstances account for it.

June 14, 2019

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Two of the biggest tells in a Terran accent is saying vee or bee instead of vI- or bI- and stressing a prefix syllable instead of the verb itself. But when the sound following a prefix is y, when does the I end and the y start? I'm listening to myself pretty hard for this. I don't want to artificially extend the IIIII, or stop it by saying bI'yaj. If I'm still voicing the I as I smile for the y sound, I guess that dipthong creeps in.

mayaj, reyaj, boyaj, Duyaj je don't turn the slightest but into ay, ey, oy, uy sounds, but I guess the articulators are closer to ee/Iy when saying I.

Listen to Okrand's descriptions and continue to hold the speakers to account.

June 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jdmcowan

mayaj, reyaj, boyaj, Duyaj je don't turn the slightest but into ay, ey, oy, uy sounds

In casual conversation mine probably do, but officially they shouldn't.

June 16, 2019
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