Are we really learning a new language or we are just wasting time ?!!
It's been almost 20 days I'm learning Swedish by this app. I would like to know is this an efficient method or I should follow other ways and books?
Duolingo is a good supplement. I recommend finding a few other sources and using that in addition to Duolingo. It certainly is great if you want to learn a bit of a language, but to be at an intermediate level you will have to use some other sources.
I started to learn swedish using duolingo only few weeks ago and i love it... I suddenly started to understand some real life sentences in radio/tv/web that i spot even if i dont understand 50% of it... So it's like a proof to me that it really helps me.
What i however found out just recently is that in desktop version of duolingo's website, when you click on a specific lecture then there is a "Bulp" icon (on most of the lectures at least) which opens a subpage that contains summary of relevant grammar information about that lecture - this is not available in mobile phone.
My personal opinion however is that this will give me a nice base that i will deeply use once i decide to go to sweden and take swedish language course from a native speaker for few weeks - but then, if you want to learn something, you should always go with "empty cup" because once you learn bad habits, it's harder to unlearn it. Thus, if you will learn something using duolingo or elsewhere, keep your mind open about grammar, pronunciation a vocabulary...
On the other hand, i must say that the way duolingo teaches the language makes sense despite the facts that you will not encounter an interactive scenario such as a need of a "logic response" to a "valid question" and not even conversation.. To me it makes sense to teach it like this because even for english language, which i use for business in daily basis i taught myself using playing games and watching movies mostly... Many times i am in a situation where i cant explain why a sentence has a specific syntax/form but i just know that it's correct because i saw/heard many other native speaker use it in that way... So in duolingo you keep practicing and keep failing until your brain "figures the grammar out" for you and then it becomes a muscle memory. Ofc conversation, pronunciation etc. needs to be from elsewhere.
EDIT: imho it would be best if there are language oriented meetups nearby, but for swedish i can't find any students around in my city )=
Thank you for your comprehensive explanation. I have been admitted to PhD program in Sweden and I will live there for almost 5 years. I would like to obtain a bit of basic knowledge. So, I will continue this trend
Hello friend. I am just about to start learning Swedish. Based on my own experience, if you want to become "fluent" with a language, you will need more than Duolingo. But the hardest part of learning anything is the beginning, and Duolingo makes that initial process fun and interesting.
I have found myself understanding some written information in most of the languages I have spent a lot of time on . I also find myself able to understand a little of the spoken language. Can I really speak anything but Spanish, which I have many other resources for? No. But it's a start, it's rather good at giving you a good feel for the grammar, and will put you way ahead of the game if/when you really get serious about learning the language.
In my experience Duolingo Swedish gives you about 2000 words of vocab and a start on an intuitive grasp of the grammar. It will help you start to read basic swedish, which isn’t terrible. What Duolingo can’t do is give you proper listening comprehension, or make you actually understood when you’re speaking the language, or really help you actually have a conversation in any way at all.
I have seen someone who used Swedish Duolingo for a whole year and then visited Sweden and came to a Språkcafe and was able to give out basic facts about herself but generally struggled to understand everyone else. There are definitely easier faster and better ways.
What Duolingo DOES do well is keeping learning the language a part of your daily life and a sense of progression, which is pretty neat, but eventually you’re going to need to stop using it because you want to get away from translating eventually, and Duolingo makes that extremely difficult.
(I write as someone who’s one day away from getting the full 330 crowns from the swedish course and attended swedish language classes in Sweden, gone to many language cafes, used skype tutors and actually tried to have conversations with swedish friends. I feel like I have a pretty good grasp of what Duolingo is and isn’t good at now!)
This method of learning has been utilised for 2 years. There won't be any studies and barely any empirical evidence as to whether it "works". Traditional courses, the kinds of books and exercises used in school for language learning etc, have been around for at least 50 years, in their current form. They are designed to take advantage of academic studies on what's actually efficient. If you are in Sweden, and you really need to speak Swedish asap, then you shouldn't rely only on this. You should regard this as a game with an academic purpose. Plus, this app doesn't let you actually converse with native speakers - that's what it really comes down to, if your goal is to speak Swedish, in Sweden. Conclusion: You are not exactly wasting time, but you'd be foolish if you think this app can equip you for a future in Sweden. If you are already in Sweden - use SFI or go get some proper books. Use this at the bus stop.... If you are not in Sweden and your interest is just a hobby, then it doesn't matter.
Thank you for your comprehensive explanation. I have been admitted to PhD program in Sweden and I will live there for almost 5 years. I would like to obtain a bit of basic knowledge.
In that case you can combine Duolingo with "learning swedish" a website that is build with the intention to give foreign (erasmus) students a starting point in swedish. It contains less practise material about each subject, but it explains the grammar rules, pronunciation...
When learning a language.. everything counts and that's what's so good about it. Skills do not need to come from books or any particular source but everything that teaches you will be useful.
Duolingo is great as a refresh-course, I have heard. What you might want to do is find some Swedish people who want to talk to you via skype or facebook and help you speak and write their language. I have Swedish friends who do that for me :) and in return, they are interested in learning Dutch (belgian) But try more ways then just Duolingo. Although this is a great website and a wonderful way to learn, it's not enough.
I think this APP is not good to learn a language. It is good to repeat words. I learn with RIVSTART, and I just finished the B2 SWEDEX level. But I like to go over with DUOLINGO
Consider a month or two of a pimsleur subscription to hone your speaking skills and accent. It is really useful. Not exciting but very good.
Hej, Hamed. I've been learning German here since 2013. I made several breaks since then, but finished the course. I started here, then listened to German learning audiocourse. Now I can understand A1 German audiobooks. That's great for me considering the fact that I have never attended anything like German classes and probably will never visit Germany, for me it is just a hobby so I do not exert myself in lerning German (and now Swedish), but yes, duolingo works. Thanks to the developers and investors of this website.
I have been doing Japanese on Duolingo for about a month now. It is the only way I do anything with this language, I don't use any other resources. I definitely feel I am doing progress. I have done about 2/3 of the old tree (mostly only level 3) and when I arrange something during the day I often think about what I would say in that situation in Japanese and it is suprising for me but I have realised that I would survive in quite a lot of everyday situations combining the things I have learnt so far. So I am sure Duolingo is useful for learning a language.
I completed the course and achieved a 430 day streak. I am now able to read books in swedish (albeit rather slowly, like a child, but still managing to do it) and writing postcards and emails to my friends in Sweden and they understand me. So I don't think it was a total waste of time :)