https://www.duolingo.com/profile/corsig

Challenge yourself by using keyboard instead of word bank

If you turn off the word bank and only use the keyboard to submit your answer it becomes a whole new challenge. Instead of having the right words and spelling given to you to chose from you now have to KNOW what words to use, correct sequence, and how to spell it right.

The satisfaction I am seeing from this is proof that I have increased my knowledge in the language I'm learning.

Good luck!!

June 18, 2019

193 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Angellore-Raven

I always use my computer instead of the app, and turn off the work bank. Otherwise it's too easy and I don't learn anything. Writing words and phrases several time is what make us learn.

June 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Andrew134089

so true, the computer version is far superior.

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/VitorAugus16

You can disable the word bank on the app too, If I'm not mistaken

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/headchop

This feature was only recently added to the Android version of the app (finally!). I only just noticed it was there a few days ago, actually.

It appears to be global - once you disable the word bank in one language, it stays disabled when you go to another language - but it's easy to enable/disable (bottom of screen), and you can actually toggle between keyboard and word bank on any given exercise, which is really helpful. So far, I've tried this in a few different languages and it seems to work (including French, Spanish, German, Italian, Russian and Japanese).

This is an awesome feature (Word Bank toggle) and long overdo in the app. Many thanks to the app developers who finally made this feature available! :)

July 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ReeseJ5

I..haven't figured that out yet, otherwise I would definitely. I know I only use the keyboard when I'm on the computer.

June 21, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/vinaypai

How do you do that? I've tried to do that but haven't found a way.

June 21, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mcguirepatr

At least for Korean (and I think some other languages), disabling the word bank on the app is a new feature. For Korean on my Android, this disabling of the word bank is less than 1-2 weeks old.

July 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/_micu_

I used to do that too, but I have found a way to disable word banks on mobile too. If you have an Android phone, you can go to duolingo.com on Google Chrome and then add it to your homepage as a shortcut. It's almost like the app, slightly laggier, but you can choose between word bank and typing which I think is a great advantage. I am not aware if something similar exists on iOS, but you could try and use the website on Safari instead of the app.

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KingEdgar1

Problem I have with this is that the URL bar irritates me. Hence why I use the app. lol

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Helenzie

Yes, the URL bar is irritating if you access direct via the browser. But as micu says, you can add the page as a Shortcut to your homescreen. Do this by choosing from the menu bar top right. Then the next time you access it, from the shortcut, the URL bar should hopefully be absent - this works ok for me on Android 9

June 21, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KingEdgar1

Oh, wow this is 100x better...

June 21, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mark841597

Exactly. I never use the word bank. Not even at the beginner levels.

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KingEdgar1

This is why I dont' look at the word bank and make the sentences in my head, then look at the word bank and place the words and intentionally fail if I got it wrong. :v

If I use the app, I try to use t he desktop version and type it all more often than not.

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LazCon

If you are up for a real challenge, try reversing the language setting. After completing my first Spanish tree (before the most recent upgrade), I changed my settings to native Spanish speaker and signed up for the English course. The questions were similar, but trying to read, and respond to, the discussions in the comments section vastly improved my vocabulary and grammar.

June 21, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/adder3

When you are using the app use google speech keyboard, and speak your answers in both languages, that makes it more challenging.

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Emma556147

I agree.

June 21, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CrackkShot

This is true, I have learnt more by typing.

June 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ID-007
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I think the real DL challenge is in the speed tests...

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SecretlyAHippo

Amen.

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Chartreux

Definitely the speed test but with NO SHORTCUTS on accents (French).

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lilpingu

Exactly. I love them!

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Darius568602

And having to switch from one alphabet to the other, but never knowing in advance whether you have to switch or not and remembering which keyboard you used last. Because if you don't, you loose time by typing in the wrong alphabet, erasing, implementing the right one, etc. I think Duo should adjust for languages with a different alphabet.

June 21, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ImagineDragons..

Juventus fan?

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Judit294350

I'd go further than just calling it a "challenge", I'd say it is a better way to learn. By using the word bank you are recognizing a word you the word have seen before - a very different skill than recalling the word. In addition if you type you also have to remember the grammar and word order.

Worse, with the word bank you can guess Romance languages without having studied them at all.

June 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Randybvain

Do you hover the cursor over the words to find their meaning then?

June 21, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Judit294350

You mean when I'm not using the word bank? Very rarely. Or do you mean when I tried Italian without doing any lessons? No, I just guessed.

June 21, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JohnKing402198

I prefer the word bank early on. Once I get to 3 crowns in a skill, Duolingo starts using the keyboard more instead of the word bank, and by then I'm more prepared for it.

June 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/laszlopanaflex

this is what i do too. for the first levels of a module, i use the word bank then switch it off later to master the grammar and mechanics.

i also use the word bank for new lesson modules because there's less of a chance that you'll get marked wrong or nitpicked for something that's actually correct. for example, the word bank might let you construct the sentence "as a child, i had a lot of toys" while typing in "as a kid, i had many toys" might be marked wrong.

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JohnKing402198

I find I don't have to switch off the word bank later on because Duolingo will automatically stop using the word bank more and more as I gain more crowns in a skill.

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/StphaneMar2

the reason you don't want the world bank is that early in the lessons you need to familiarize yourself with the word, but your eyes will get tracked by the writing while in fact you should focus on the sounds and create the image link between your memory and the new word. Language is always an association between what your eyes saw (for instance the action of eating and the world associated to it. Early in your life you create a bound between this registered image and the sound that links to it. It will take many more years for you to learn to write this action with letters and that will become "to eat". So when learning a new language you need to teach your brain that a new sound will be also associated to this action "manger" in french, and a bit letter you will then put letters on that word. So not seeing the written words first will force your brain to find the image linked to the sound and then from that image find the proper spelling. If that makes any sense.

June 21, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JohnKing402198

I agree, and Duolingo does repeat the words verbally from the word bank when I select them, so I do get to hear them early on. So I don't really see a problem there.

June 23, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Darrell396929

I see it as a way to add variety to the lessons so they do not become monotonous. It is also a way to learn how to put a sentence together in the beginning and is another step in the learning process. I need to learn how to put a sentence together before I can write it. Everyone learns differently and at different speeds. The fact that Duo allows you to opt out of the word bank and to use a keyboard allows those with advanced skills to proceed and those who are still struggling to not get discouraged because they can still use the word bank.

June 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TinyKitties

I agree!

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ken128146

Whether I use the keyboard or word bank, I verbalize everything. Sometimes I’ll say the phrase three or four times, and listen to it multiple times if available. What’s clear to me is that there are many ways to make learning a language work for you.

Sometimes I do duolingo right before bed in the hopes that maybe it’ll help my learning. I have nothing to back this up, except that I often dream about things I read or saw just before bed, so maybe my brain is working on phrases like “Siamo avvocati o uomini?” in Italian (which hilariously means “Are we men or lawyers?”)

June 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ken128146

Thanks for that article. Confirms my suspicions. I just started Spanish in January, but formed a sentence in my dreams the other night using the verb “dibujar” (which is funny because I REALLY can’t draw).

Your brain keeps working during sleep. When I learned Italian in Italy in my 20s I dreamed in Italian every night. Immersion definitely helps both dreaming in a language and learning it quickly.

June 22, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LucaDelvil

Bella frase!

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Nathan727786

For some languages this is reasonable. i have word bank off for spanish, but I have it on for japanese and putonghua.

Typing kana is annoyingly hard. Typing the right kanji is absurdly hard. Also there is a place for learning kanji in stages, recognizing them first, then coming back and learning how to write them properly. I'm progressing through the kanji in grade order so I'm happy to let some of these kanji being taught that are in a higher grade stay in recognize-only mode for the time being.

Duolingo's making the acquisition of new characters easy is one of the best points of it imho.

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marc41177

Yeah, different scripts is an entirely different thing. (And, it's pretty great that Duo can actually teach them).

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MuchMyriad

Typing the answers, rather than selecting them from a pre-defined list means you need to form the words and phrases within your own mind. This, in addition to your brain processing this process differently overall.

It cements the language in your mind better and is a more useful process for learning overall.

June 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Randybvain

But only if you have these words already in your brain. Otherwise you have to find out what to type by hovering the cursor over the words or using Google Translate, right?

June 21, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Judit294350

You hover then you type - this is more effective than hovering and sliding. Incidentally - don't use GT. It isn't always accurate and often uses different vocab than DL.

June 21, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/walkabout123

I find that I learn more by using the keyboard. It has helped me get a lot better with tenses , subject-verb agreement, and pluralizing or not pluralizing adjectives.

June 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ken128146

Sometimes I begin by using the keyboard and peek at the word bank and then type the rest. If I’m on the Duolingo website where you don’t lose health for mistakes, I don’t peek.

June 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/logane616

Using a keyboard forces you to learn the words and the alphabet, wheras word bank is purely recognition. It will help reading, but not writing.

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LadyInque

I only use the word bank when I am really frustrated, like being asked to translate sentences where the only correct answer doesn't make sense idiomatically. Today, the website version isn't giving me the word bank as an option, so I guess it's the hard way all the way.

June 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hexxxx

You'll be better for it in the end. Hang in there :-)

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hexxxx

I thought the same. But I just turned it off and dang...it is harder...lol! Maybe it's because I just started a new batch of lessons. But whatever, it's all fun!!

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/coachquantico

Totally agree! You have to put way more effort to submit an answer by typing and therefore, you will learn more. You will have to pay a bit more of your time though.

From my past experience on languages with different keyboard layout than what I was used to, I find out that the time spent on a lesson when I try to use the keyboard increases exponentially! The tip I can do to boost this process is to put stickers in every letter of your keyboard with the new layout. It was a very fun experience to me!

June 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/wriggs24

How did you get arabic? What language are you learning from and what platform are you using? I didn't know it was available yet. I can't get it.

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hexxxx

OMG - at first I didn't understand what you were talking about. I get it now. Thank you for pointing this out! I REALLY disliked using those word banks. I'm so excited that I'm giving you FIVE lingots. Thank you for sharing!!!!

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/corsig

That'w why I shared this. I had no idea it was going to get this kind of response. Since I stopped using the word bank (even on the lower lessons) my retention has increased incredibly. From what I've read here not everyone agrees but that is fine more people learned a new way to learn if wanted...

June 22, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hexxxx

Hey - you guys need to check out this post. It is CRAZY good!! I am not exaggerating... https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/32776839

June 22, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Finlay745011

cries in chinese

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/uebergeek

I usually leave word bank off (on desktop), but I've also discovered a couple of counterarguments. If I use word bank on new material that I'm really shaky with, then I'm more likely to practice and reinforce the correct answers. If I'm struggling and use the keyboard method, I end up making so many mistakes that it seems like it's harder to reinforce the correct information. ("Er.. I remember typing X, did that turn out to be right or wrong?") On material that I'm not so shaky with, I just use the keyboard; I agree that seems a quicker way to learn.

The other counterargument -- well more of a downside -- is less of a big deal: when you go back and do Level 3 of a skill after using keyboard on Level 2, it seems rather repetitive and gets boring quickly. (And sometimes the same problem with levels 4 and 5.) Once I figure out I'm at that point I just test out, but there is some frustration going through a lesson or two to make that determination. It's not like I would unnecessarily use the word bank to avoid that fate, just something I've noticed.

That said, my thumb typing is lousy, so when I use the phone app I use the word bank whenever possible. Best of both worlds!

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ikkinlala

I agree about the word bank reinforcing the correct answers. I've found that it works best for me to use the word bank in the phone app to get a skill to level 2, then switch to the desktop version and a keyboard for further practice.

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hexxxx

Hey - you guys need to check out this post. It is CRAZY good!! I am not exaggerating... https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/32776839

June 22, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/wriggs24

You are so right. Getting rid of the word bank makes it much closer to real life scenarios. There is no word bank giving you clues when you have your first conversation in spanish. For anyone who hasn't tried using keyboard only, I highly recommend it. It is a humbling experience, but definitely improves your skills a lot.

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Deleted_Z

Yeah, when the word bank came on I was sorta disappointed Because other people could be using them, and not know how to spell the words correctly... Why did duolingo add this feature? If you ask me, I'd say making the sentence by typing works better for me.

I'm not trying to depreciate Duolingo's hard work to "up-grade" the site, I'm just wondering

June 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Duolingo717659

The first step to learn a language is to be able to remember what you read on the screen and to adjudicate meanings to it. By using "word bank" and test style answers, the learner have an easier way to remember and therefore to be able to learn faster.

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hexxxx

I think Duo should be commended for giving us both options. We all learn differently, have different levels of proficiency, and different desires in the ways we wish to be challenged. It's harder to work without the word bank, but I learn best when I am challenged the most. Someone else may appreciate the assistance that the word bank provides. It's ALL good. Thanks Duo :)

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Judit294350

I don't think the science would agree. It is certainly easier - but not effective in learning - ie being able to recall from long term memory. Just looking and recognizing makes it take longer to recalling from scratch because you don't need to. It'll be in short term memory (maybe) but it won't have got all the way in.

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/chromalogue

But science says that constant frustration and discouragement isn't good for retention either. Irish spelling used to regularly bring me to tears. Before the word bank I used to have to write things down to cheat my way around it, and back when skills decayed I used to think about just letting it go.

Now that I'm around the fourth crown level with three university-run Irish courses under my belt, it's finally making sense, and NOW I can work without the word bank and feel my way around how things are spelled and what phonemes match which letter combinations. But I wasn't a better learner without the word bank; I was just angry and frustrated and mashing keys until I found the combination that would get me out of that nightmare.

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/chromalogue

Actually, I take that back. I just blew an entire lesson and no, I cannot work without the word bank--which of course it no longer gives me the option of having for this level. In four or five years I am going to be vindictively tending a gold tree, watering it with my rage, and I will not know a single word of Irish. However, this is about 117% my own lack of intelligence and 54% Irish itself, which I am convinced has it in for me personally. If a million monkeys with a million typewriters worked for a million years, they would do better on that lesson than I just did.

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Darius568602

Or maybe they would have come up with Irish? I am going to give it a try, but from what I did until now it is definitely one of the more challenging languages to learn.

June 21, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ElizabethAnne01

i'm sure you're right but Learning with DuoLingo is totally different from other methods and I'm experimenting with how much (or how little!) I am learning/retaining without learning in the traditional sense (i.e., writing down vocab over and over to try and memorise it). I want to see if Welsh mutations will sink in over time or if they will remain a mystery. The key has to be in how often they are used to keep them 'fresh'.

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marc41177

Easy = popularity (read "retention"). Popularity = profit.

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ElizabethAnne01

"I was sorta disappointed Because other people could be using them, and not know how to spell the words correctly.."

You really ought to focus on yourself and not concern yourself with others!

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Caleb-Barrow

I know that the word bank was very useful to me when i started out. Even though i always type things in now, the word bank got me to the point where i became confidant enough to stop using it.

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/prisonmike420

I use the word bank only when I want to memorize how the new words sound, since every time you click on the word it's repeated. I agree tho, typing is the best way to memorize spelling. :)

June 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/n35w101

Next level for me is not only type the words, but also make sure I use the correct accent marks. French has a lot of them. Although Duo is forgiving when I make a mistake, I do a little happy dance when I use them all properly and accurately. I've gotten pretty good at remembering all the ALT+code key combinations for things like é, ç, ô, and so forth.

June 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/moggymom

I'm with you....my perfectionism makes me want to get all the accents, punctuation, and capitalization just right. I used the ALT codes for the accents for a while until someone told me about using the US International keyboard (in keyboard settings in windows or Mac) and that made things so much easier for me. For example, I just hit ' before the letter e, and it automatically becomes é and ' before c becomes ç

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/n35w101

I don't want to become dependent on a keyboard setting, just in case I am at a computer that's not mine. But yes, changing the settings, installing language packs, etc are another way to get the mechanics out of the way so you can learn the language. :-)

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hexxxx

This is interesting. I didn't realize that there were keyboard combinations to type letters with accents. I use the SwiftKey English/Spanish keyboard on my phone, but completely ignore accents when I'm on my computer (so embarrassed :-( Thanks for sharing this.

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Caleb-Barrow

as a fellow spanish user, here's all the relevant alt key codes you'll need:

á : Alt 160 é : Alt 130 í : Alt 161 ó : Alt 162 ú : Alt 163 ñ : Alt 164

other than é, they all follow a nice, alphabetic order, so it's pretty easy to remember.

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hexxxx

You should consider trying the SwiftKey Keyboard app if you have an Android device. It offers an option that recognizes Spanish words so you will not need to type the accents. It may also work for French. I am not sure if they offer a version for Apple devices.

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/n35w101

Hey there. I'm going to reply to both your notes in one. You're welcome for the info on ALT codes. They are easy to look up, if you are on a Windows PC. Just run the 'Character Map' application. When you select a character, it's ALT code will be listed at the bottom-right of the dialog box. All you have to do, to use them, is hold hold down the ALT key on your keyboard while typing out the numbers using the keypad. (The number row at the top of your keyboard won't work.)

My phone is an Android. But I don't use it for Duolingo. I only use a PC because the lessons seem more robust and it allows me to avoid depending on things like the word bank. However, my stock Android keyboard does have all the symbols. I just long-press the relevant letter to get the alternatives.

Personally, I don't want to put any mechanisms in place that help me avoid the work. So, having SwiftKey help me avoid typing accents is not something I would choose.

I guess you could say that I like unassisted learning mode, hard work and all. The climb is steeper, but the view is clearer once I get there. ;-)

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hexxxx

That's fair! I agree with much of what you said. Unfortunately, my desktop is a Mac, and I only use gesture-based typing on my mobile. I'll try to figure out the ALT codes for Apple's IOS at some point this week. Please feel free to share any info you have on that or anything else. And enjoy these two 'ASSISTED' but well earned lingots - ha ha!

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/n35w101

Thank ya for the Lingots. Got 'em coming out my ears at the moment (3923), lol.

As for a Mac equivalent, I found these two Apple support articles for you:

[No.1](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201586]

[No.2](https://discussions.apple.com/thread/847932]

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hexxxx

No worry. Best wishes to you in your studies.

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hexxxx

And thanks again!

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hexxxx

OMG - you just embarrassed me!! I went to your link No.1 and duh - the answer had been in my face all along. It basically amounts to pressing and holding the character key until the accented option for that character appears. Like duh...lol! I even tried it in a Duo lesson and yep, it works!! So, yeah, I'm humbled but grateful :) I'm now putting you on my Duo SPEED dial..lol! But I'm not giving you ANYmore dang lingots Ms '3923' . Yikes, that's more than 3 times my UNASSISTED balance...lol! All silliness aside though, gracias por tu ayuda. Tiene una tarde divertida :-)

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/n35w101

@Hexxxx I'm so sorry. I promise I wasn't trying to embarrass, only help.

Most of my lingots are unassisted too. When you maintain a long streak, they add up quickly. I just got 60 of them a week ago, should get 61 in 3 more days. I'll give yours back, and a few extra in apology for the embarrassment.

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hexxxx

Hey - I was joking about being embarrassed. Really - I just thought it was funny that I didn't think of simply hard pressing the keys on my keyboard. I was just laughing at myself. I was also teasing about the lingots. Congrats on accumulating that much. Forgive my silliness

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/n35w101

Oh. OK. Text-based communication loses so much context without body language. I've seen other comments from you. You seem upbeat, happy and playful. I should have been more aware & assumed that was the case here. But I try very hard not to offend or upset. Anyway, thank you for the congratulatory message. :-)

June 20, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Moira582602

It certainly is a much better way to learn a language properly. However it does pose certain problems to me, as a dyslexic, with a specific spelling difficulty. A challenge. But the only way really to be fluent in a language is to not just speak it but write it as well and know the phonetics and their structure.

Judith I agree 100% with you. Please have one of my lingots.

Dyslexics rule KO!

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hexxxx

Hi Moira - may I suggest attempting to formulate the answer in your head and/or saying it aloud BEFORE looking for the words in the word bank. This may be a good compromise that challenges and helps you progress faster, while still supporting you as you work to overcome the spelling challenges.

June 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/corsig

Thats what I do. I say it out loud without looking at the answers first to see if I knew it

June 22, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Turlur

By the time I'm going from level 4 to 5 on any given skill, there's enough typing questions that I have to know the spelling whether I care to or not. Even still, I prefer typing just for the increased speed I can get the questions done at.

June 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Szei

Yes, learning this way is far more indicative of your actual progress and you will learn more too!

Only problem is in Chinese listening exercises you don’t know if they are saying “he” or “she” on listening exercises since they both sound identical. So if you don’t use the word bank you can get it wrong. That really needs to be fixed but it’s been like that for over a year.

June 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PeterPan173079

There's a similar issue with the Dutch course. While the machine voice made almost no distinction between the stressed and unstressed pronouns, getting them wrong would result in the sentence not counting. I always assumed I was really bad at listening and I just need to focus more - until they introduced a second, female voice, which makes it really easy to distinguish.

June 18, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CallumVaughan

This is the reason I use the desktop app rather than the phone app. I've done far better learning Gaeilge with the keyboard than I did with the word bank.

Unfortunately, this is not always possible; Greek, for example, is impossible to get through without the word bank because it relies on you being able to type in the Greek Alphabet.

June 18, 2019

[deactivated user]

    You can add whatever keyboard layouts you want, be it Greek or Russian or something else, to your operating system.

    https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/22040507

    June 19, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Caleb-Barrow

    same here, i only use the phone app when I'm desperate, and only on skills that are high enough to use the keyboard by default.

    June 19, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LindaChic

    I started out as a newbie using the word bank, but then I had the same epiphany as you did and started using the keyboard. Then if I'm really stuck, I peek at the word bank and go back and finish in keyboard.

    June 18, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/chromalogue

    Using a standard keyboard is much quicker at the higher levels. But before that, between my general dullness and my lousy typing on a phone keyboard, it's just safer to use the word bank.

    June 19, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MattOG81

    I stopped using the Android app and now use the Android Browser to the website for this reason. The difference in my retention is amazing.

    June 19, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Duolingo717659

    Using keyboard is more challenging and as such also needed when the language you learn got a totally different alphabet, memorizing the keys on the keyboard is a challenge itself.

    June 19, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/_Owlie_

    I recently started using the keyboard and I honestly wouldn't go back! It's such a greater challenge than just selecting the words. Wordbanks are great when you're a beginner or as a fallback, but typing in another language is a whole new skill.

    June 19, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AlexisCapp2

    I do it all the time. It helped me understand Spanish even better.

    June 19, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HassF.

    yeah totally agree.. it force to memorize all the letters.. but i also noticed it help me faster to go the next round .. as the more you advance Duolingo does that automatically .. start asking you to write down the sentence.. so if you practice earlier.. it will make a big difference in the later.

    June 19, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bri136137

    I thoroughly agree. I never used the word bank. I've observed that the muscle memory provided by typing reinforces word recall.

    June 19, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/nyanur

    It depends on the understanding of an individual. Some people struggle with the word bank too. I feel like it is an acceptable starting place but not as a 'bypass' throughout your learning course.

    June 20, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Tim713352

    Thanks for the advice, I was not aware this was something you could do. It feels a lot more satisfying challenging yourself without using the word bank as a crutch :)

    June 20, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BeaverGuy

    How can I turn off the word bank PERMANENTLY?

    Right now, every day I return to duolingo and it enables the word bank again. So I have to disable it every day anew within a lesson.

    Are there no global settings on my account where I can disable it? I'm on desktop.

    June 20, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Judit294350

    Odd. I turned it off and it stayed off. There doesn't seem to be a global setting (I suspect it is set per language)

    June 20, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/StphaneMar2

    There is one thing I would add to it is to never look the screen when the next question pops so you can hear the words only. While doing my thing I realized I was somewhat reading the words before I was even able to understand them. This is an issue for me I found. When you listen to a video where the language you learn is spoken you will at first not understand a word. But you will catch a few words you learned here and there. The sooner you familiarized yourself with the sound of these words the sooner you'll be able to catch them in a real situation where obviously there is no bottom screen text in real life.

    June 20, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/stupefaite

    I am even faster with doing exercises with keyboard than the word bank. Sometimes I check some words or its pronounciation with the word bank, but the futher I go, the less I need it. I am doing a lot of written notes and it also helps me memorize all that stuff.

    June 21, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lightning_11

    This sounds great, except that I can't type in chinese... Anyone know what I should do?

    June 21, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/StphaneMar2

    well on a phone or a tablet you can install the chinese keyboard and switch between both (Duolingo seems to switch to the appropriate one on demand). As for the desktop you can use the virtual keyboard (an on screen keyboard like on a tablet or a phone) with the chinese language installed. It's worth noticing that while I do use the first option successfully I have never tried the second one so far

    June 21, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HansHunter

    Agree with this a lot. Always use the browser version on my phone to use my keyboard. Hope they will introduce it in the app aswell..

    June 24, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kentnard

    I have already updated to the latest version, but there's still no option to change to keyboard. I am using android. Any help?

    August 3, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JeanetteKo13

    Go to your language settings in your device ( phone ) and you can add a keyboard. I had to figure this out on my own. It definitely makes life easier.

    August 3, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lorilein

    I love using the keyboard instead of the word bank. I'm using Duolingo on my Android Tablet and phone. However, it's been for a couple of days now that Duolingo switched back to word bank and there's no option anymore to switch to keyboard. I don't think there was an update during the past few days. But somehow it doesn't work anymore. Same language, even more crowns. That really bugs me. Has anyone noticed the same?

    August 15, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hexxxx

    Lorilein - I think sometimes Duo imposes the Word Bank for the first couple levels, then either takes it away or allows you to turn it off. You could also try the web version (as opposed to the app version on your phone). Sometimes Duo makes changes to one but not the other. Buena suerte

    August 15, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/the-real-ICH

    You can't use keyboard on mobile, which is really bad.

    June 18, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Szei

    You can on iOS. Just press the button near the bottom to toggle between keyboard and word bank. It only shows up on higher levels of a skill though.

    June 18, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Caleb-Barrow

    Android forces you to use the keyboard once you reach a certain level, but there is never a choice as to which you want to use. Besides, you should be able to choose to use keyboard whenever you want to, if you think you are ready. I never use word banks anymore since i switched to the PC site.

    June 19, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LazCon

    Your tablet may be different, but the Duo app automatically gives me word bank in the lower levels, but logging on to duolingo dot com doesnt even offer me the option of word bank. I jump between both because the variety helps keep me interested.

    June 21, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Per688594

    true

    June 18, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Fred633894

    Corsig, Yes this is a useful technique especially when doing testing. I have also invoked a spanish keyboard on my iPhone so now I dictate all of the answers and this, hopefully, is improving my accent and pronunciation as you will get some very funny things if you don't say the word correctly. The English keyboard is still there and you can toggle the languages back and forth if you need to. So in this tweak you need to be able to say the correct word correctly and not worry about spelling it. Overall I use my iPhone for exercises involving oral answers and my Mac for stories and testing etc. Cheers

    June 18, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/A_Sesquipedalian

    My challenge is for people using mobile versions: in your device settings, add a keyboard from the language you are learning. It can be rather interesting, as you can see the way people from that country type, and- although there is auto-correct- selecting words that have different genders (e.g. The German for ‘the’ is der, die or das in the nominative case) it won’t give you the correct one. You still have to think probably about the words that you are writing.

    June 18, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PUBG_master

    I generally don't use word blanks in French, but for Hebrew it wont work because to type in Hebrew would require me to buy the letters on sticker and put on my keyboard. the other option would be to click every letter with a mouse, and that would be really annoying.

    June 18, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/heda-yelena

    I always do my lessons on the computer and type by default but since I test out most of my trees (languages I've partially learned in school), I can always check the word bank if I'm hesitating on a word and don't want to lose a life.

    But the satisfaction of typing the right answer is much greater !

    Also I have it easier typing my answers than picking the words, which can be confusing and many times I made mistakes by thinking I had picked a word and when hadn't.

    June 18, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tyouyoo

    i agree

    June 19, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MarkToo2

    I agree with you because that has been my experience as well!

    June 19, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TechnologyDoctor

    I already do. :)

    June 19, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kochida

    Good idea! I should do that!

    June 19, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/UTRol

    I have already done this, it's much better for learning and it's also less annoying than trying to look for a certain word or worse, its synonym

    June 19, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BlueDiamondXD

    yeah me too

    June 19, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ranjana843863

    I always use keyboard instead of world bank and its help you learning in better way.

    June 20, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Rnbwsnsnshn

    Implement it on the app and maybe I'll probably use it.

    June 20, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ben568111

    I agree. I confirm this has really helped me on the french course. Keyboard manual typing is the way to go. Voice input if you can, is also great.

    June 20, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Krup88

    Forgive me for being a bit lost, but I usually use the app. Is turning off the word bank only an option on the desktop version? Where exactly can I turn it off, cannot see it in settings.

    June 20, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ben568111

    Hello. This seems not to work in the app. If you still want to type, just to to Duolingo.com on your phone using Chrome App. Log in and use.

    June 27, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lilpingu

    I am learning Japanese and also use the Japanese keyboard. But sometimes I also learn via laptop with a big keyboard and there it is a bit harder to write with Japanese signs

    June 20, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pvsari

    This is a good idea!

    June 20, 2019

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ViktoryaLynn

    Thanks for the tip!

    June 20, 2019

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      I never use the word bank and think it is necessary to learn the keyboard for the target language. I am starting to get used to the Hebrew keyboard.

      June 20, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DaCurlyFry

      yes ima try this

      June 21, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/langpedia

      For me, I do this when I'm on the higher levels of each module so that I've had a chance to learn the words first, but it's definitely a great way to learn!

      June 21, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BiggestRat

      i always do this

      June 21, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Descenz_iz_bad

      how can i turn it off? and is it only possible on the computer version?

      June 21, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Camilla-danesa

      This may reveal that I'm quite a lazy bum: I'm using the word bank in spanish all the time. I had forgotten that you can turn it off.

      June 21, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Michael298601

      I agree, I'm using the Japanese keyboard on my phone with the browser instead of the app. I wish Duolingo would allow for keyboard input with the app.

      June 21, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/4nthonylol

      Hadn't thought of this. I think after some practice, I'll give it a go. :)

      June 21, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Itz.Sara.x

      Also sometimes the word bank has a light variation such as in French: Habite and Habites which is very confusing!

      Good Luck!

      June 21, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jeanne457735

      When typing in an answer, I have to stop to select the accented letters from the letter bank. Is there a way to avoid this and get the accented letters from the keyboard?

      June 21, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/vinaypai

      On some platforms you can configure a "compose" key. For example, I can type "Compose + c + ," to get "ç" or "Compose + e + ' " to to get "é". Unfortunately this isn't built into every operating system but you can sometimes install third-party software to enable that. Try searching for "compose key windows" or "compose key macos" or whatever you use. You can also try the "composekey" extension for Chrome.

      June 21, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/7ga4Ktv4

      i've always used the keyboard, also cause otherwise it would take ages to gather my exp. typing is 100x faster that going around clicking on the words.

      June 21, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Christophe882398

      This is most definitely the best way "to Duolingo." I at first used the app and the typing was annoying because I'm very bad at typing fast on a phone. However, I just switched to PC and it is so much better. Turn on the keyboard and you get the same challenge of truly KNOWING the language, but not nearly as slow as on the app.

      June 21, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Brittany715669

      This is my favorite way to test my skills, I prefer to use my computer because it actually gives me the option to do this. I wish the app allowed me to do this too it would be easier to keep up with my streaks that way. I feel like this tip really helps secure it into my head.

      June 21, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hugh231007

      I agree, but I do use the word bank if I get stuck. Sometimes the lower level of the exercise is best done with the word bank but once I start to get it I turn it off.

      June 22, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GaryChin4

      I am doing the Spanish tree, and I always use my computer (unless I do not have access to my computer), and I even enabled the International Keyboard. Pressing ALT + certain letters allows me to type accents. I learn much better that way!

      June 24, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mcguirepatr

      In Korean on my Android app, turning off the word bank and enabling the keyboard is less than 1-2 weeks old. I am glad they made the change, as it makes it much more difficult and educational. But the word bank is also very useful if the keyboard version is too difficult (maybe for the first few crowns of a lesson) or if you don't have a lot of time.

      July 8, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jkckent

      How?

      July 19, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CELTA_Teacher

      I stated this today. Absolutely 100% correct! An entirely new challenge!

      August 22, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Randybvain

      No way. I am fed up with constantly failing to find the exact wording of a sentence just because a tree is written in American English and British English is not included.

      June 19, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hexxxx

      LMAO - oh, you poor chap! I sincerely feel your pain. I grew up in a British colony so I can understand your frustration. Fortunately as a US resident I'm now proficient in both versions of English - the right one and the wrong one...LOL Anyway, your post made me laugh. Good luck mate!!

      June 19, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/3gT4V1xn

      I totally disagree. Using the keyboard is a drag. So much more fun and faster the other way.

      June 21, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Michael298601

      I agree that the word bank is much faster, however I feel it is too easy to see the possible answers and knowing the answer by just eliminating the ones it can't be. Using the keyboard I'm forced to try and think of my entire vocabulary and figure out the answer that way.

      June 22, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Judit294350

      Depends if you are after fun or actually learning something.

      June 22, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MooO0O

      The wordbank is worthless for learning.

      June 18, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Cs1987

      I could hardly disagree more. When I was trying to learn German prior to living in Germany for a year, I originally found it very difficult to make any progress learning the language. Then I discovered Duolingo, and suddenly I went from having just about no motivation to learn German to spending about an hour a day learning German, and within just a few months I was impressing my German workmates with my ability to type e-mails in German with very few errors. The word bank was definitely the main reason why I found Duolingo motivating - it just makes it so much easier for a relative beginner to learn how to construct sentences in a foreign language. And no, I'm not being paid to say this.

      June 19, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JeanetteKo13

      Well I hate to say it, but the only time I find the German to be a challenge is when I press enter & my word has changed to something I did not type, or if the chick sounds like she's saying something different. I have taken German since 7th grade, spelling no biggie, memorization is fine, I am hard pressed to find any new words which is why I came here. Yet you just might get your answer wrong if you don't have a correct space after your comma. This actually happened to me the other day.

      June 19, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MooO0O

      The wordbank only helps you to feel good about yourself. It doesn't help you at all to learn German. Memorization is the key to learning, not multiple choice. It's the dumbing down of language to give you a false sense of accomplishment

      June 19, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LICA98

      if it doesn't help you that doesn't mean it doesn't help other people

      June 19, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Caleb-Barrow

      The word bank is "training wheels"; sure it won't teach you everything, but if that's what it takes to get you going in the right direction, then that's what you should use.

      I started out using the word bank, then was able to make a seamless transition into typing once i had gained enough skill with the language. If i didn't have the option to use the word bank early on, then there would definitely have been more frustration, and i might not have gotten here.

      June 19, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LindaChic

      Exactly. And also, you still have the challenge of placing the words in the correct order in word bank.

      June 19, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/f0xG3_PatG

      The word bank kinda makes the output pre-determined, I prefer the keyboard because I can experiment if the alternate solutions work :D.

      This is apparent for German where 'You' can be rendered as casual (Du) or formal (Sie) which actually enables to have such questions with two possible answers :D.

      June 19, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LindaChic

      I did not experience it as worthless. It gave me a gentle push to get started. Besides, the word bank is little help with word order.

      June 19, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lightning_11

      Agreed...

      June 21, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/1l1l1l1l1l

      This is a test

      June 19, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lightning_11

      A test of what?

      June 21, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Leafhuntress

      No.

      Different courses for different horses. That you wish to do so is alright. It's a choice you can make. Others might choose differently & that's good too.

      This is one thing i like which Duolingo allows us to have a choice in & then people go and decry the choices of others... I'll never understand that!

      June 18, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Szei

      It’s just a suggestion. No one is forcing you to turn off the word bank, but it’s worth trying it and seeing if it works for you. He is not decrying anything.

      June 18, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/corsig

      LOL. Um I didn't tell you to do it or that you had to do it. I said here's a new method to challenge yourself to do better. Looking at the comments most people didn't utilize it as much. Hope you have a great day and happy learning all your languages.

      June 18, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LICA98

      yeah but what was the point of that? like I think everyone already knows about the possibility to type answers

      June 19, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Chris6661

      It's creating discussion though, so I don't think it's pointless.

      June 19, 2019

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PUBG_master

      He is only giving a suggestion to help you learn better. It is only friendly advice. If you cant handle a challenge to help you learn than don't.

      June 18, 2019
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