https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zanzaboonda

Quick tip for remembering ب ت ث ن

Maybe this is obvious to some people, but maybe it will help others. It can be difficult when things look alike. (Disclaimer: this is a memorization tip, not a pronunciation guide.)

ب the dot is Below (B)

ت Two dots (T)

ث Three dots (Th)

ن at Noon (nun), the sun is high in the sky (N)

(Please also note also that this one sits below the line, not on it, and the shape is different.)

I don't have tips for all the letters, but this helped me when I studied years ago. If this helped you and you want more, let me know.

June 27, 2019

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/George229674

"If this helped you and you want more, let me know."

Whatever you write, I would read.

June 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zanzaboonda

Lol You are too kind. I am only a student, too. But if I think of any more tips, I'll share them. :)

June 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/a_as75

Arabic is my native language so if you need help let me know (also i am impressed with the languages you are learning)

June 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zanzaboonda

Hey, thanks! That would be great. :) I've made it a goal to learn at least one language from each continent/region - at least to a level of basic proficiency. But I really like languages in general.

June 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/George229674

cool.... at your leisure my Lady.

June 27, 2019

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m'lady

June 28, 2019

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tips fedora

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/alphalyrae

It's not so easy to remember as your mnemonic, but for the letters that have dots, the position of the dots is the same as the position of your tongue when you make the sound. You'll notice if you try saying ي (y) or ب (b) that your tongue is at the bottom of your mouth, whereas is you say ث (th), ت (t), ض (ḍ) etc it's at the top :)

June 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zanzaboonda

Ah, brilliant! It's just like Hangul, then.

June 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kimjongjung

This deserves bunch of lingots.

July 4, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NawarLayla

This is great! If you have any more tips I would love to hear them!

June 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zanzaboonda

For sure! I definitely have a few more. Probably not all of them will make sense to everyone, but I'll try to share them anyways. Lol

June 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kimjongjung

Something is better than having no clue at all. Share whatever makes sense to you, unless you are not spamming.

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/setarehr128

Me, the native Farsi speaker

June 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kimjongjung

Help duolingo develop Farsi. you'll be my hero. :)

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SophCamera

سلام! من عاشق فارسی هستم

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NoorulIman1

I love that font!

June 30, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bykunn

i'd love a farsi course on here! i find it more interesting than arabic tbh

June 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zedsunn

Same here! I find the differences in the alphabet and pronunciation a bit tricky- I wish there was a Farsi course as well, it would be interesting! I would love to help but I don't think I'm qualified to help develop a course.

June 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/rafaelyy1717

thank you!

June 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/18032007giahuy

Thank you so much!!! Maybe this can help me learning Arabic!

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JimThibaul

I just wish I can read the Arabic script, find it too light

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SarilaF

thanks. love arabic- how beautiful too.

June 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/um6661138

thank you!

June 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/iffypant

That is helpful! I started trying to teach myself the Arabic alphabet months ago. The free online tutorial taught these letters together among some others. I got a bit frustrated and stopped kind of stuck with Arabic through transliteration. I hope the Duolingo course can help me with recognizing the letters.

June 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zanzaboonda

I'm really dating myself here, lol, but I initially studied Arabic like over 20 years ago. I taught myself a bit using the book Colloquial Arabic of the Gulf and Saudi Arabia. (Good book - highly recommended. I was able to go into a local Mediterranean market and understand some conversations between customers and clerks, which completely blew me away!) I had no idea at the time that there were different "versions". Lol I've revisited the alphabet over the years (mostly due to a brief study of Farsi). But I remember little else.

Due to life in general, I stopped learning Arabic altogether, and I've been dying for this course to come out. The language seemed to be a good fit for my brain before, but I'm significantly older now. Lol So, we'll see. Doing okay so far.

I think part of that is Duolingo's method. It usually works well for me. I hope it does for you, too!

June 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/leighforbes

I know Arabic is on a completely different level, but I learned Norwegian (enough to get by in Norway) in ten months at the age of 47. (And my mother learned Italian to fluency in her 60s.)

You can do it!!

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Arditiz

So true! I'm 61 and learning a few tongues at once - making happy progress, no problems. I think that thing about being older vs language learning is a myth! I just ask my young, enthused, curious brain to kick in and have fun, and everything sticks!

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zanzaboonda

I love both of these comments! They give me hope. :) I also had some medical issues that caused me memory problems, and I've really been struggling. But I decided to take up the kalimba and have spent a couple of months learning music and music theory, and it's had a huge effect on my brain. I've barely been practicing my languages (just keeping my streak alive, really), and yet things are suddenly easier - even in Korean, which was killing me. Lol I was determined before, but I now I have hope that it won't be such an uphill battle.

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/iffypant

I've been living in Beirut for 2.5 years and have been learning colloquial Lebanese dialect on and off for 1.5 years. I feel like I have almost nothing to show for it though. I can pick on some things in a conversation or when asked, but I really struggle to answer, especially with my terrible accent, and to remember the verbs.

The main problem is that you don't need to speak Arabic to live in this city. There wasn't really too much pressure or motivation to make me feel like I had to learn and become fluent in it to survive. I'm about to leave very soon, so there'll be even less motivation for me to continue with the language, especially when I'll have to start brushing up on a different language in my new location.

I would like to at least learn some more, if not all of the letters. I think Duolingo is helping with that already.

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/VanAya76

The thing is that this Arabic is not the same for Beirut as I know.

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/iffypant

Yes, I'm very aware that Lebanese/Beiruti Arabic is not the same as fusha, but that could be said for any spoken Arabic in the Middle East/North Africa.

The courses I took were actually a strange mix of multiple colloquial dialects and somewhat Gulf focused. Our teachers would read and correct things to be more Lebanese: replacing words that aren't used in the country, generally not pronouncing the "qaf", adding "b" before verbs, etc, so I think I know a little about these differences.

Granted, it would probably be easier to start with MSA and then learn dialects. I never expected to move to Beirut though, and it made more practical sense (as is the case for many expats) to take courses in the dialect for daily purposes.

June 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mondschuppen

Thanks!

June 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SuperCrow86

For jeem ha kha ج ح خ I was taught : writeج nothingح onخ

June 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Libertad54

شكرًا

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PetitRagondin

Hi, could you please explain this more? Maybe I'm slow but I didn't get it!

June 30, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RobertoVro15

Thank you friend, Asalamalykum

June 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bir_kedi

acredito que تسلمي (tíslami, obrigado/a) ou شكرًا (xúkran) são melhores para agradecer, do que السلام عليكم.

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RobertoVro15

Asalamalikum significa que la paz este contigo, y hasta donde yo se lo usan como despedida o para decir hola, no intente usar esa palabra para agradecer

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Libertad54

شكرًا

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/daniel-herrarte

Thank you so much! If anyone's interested, these are called mnemonics.

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bonnythedog

Gosh, that's a very difficult grammarian word!

Do you have a way to remember it? :)

July 6, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TysonClassicist

Thanks

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Khalid449389

Yah.. good one... I used men in a boat ...but yours is better

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tc2018

Useful,thanks!

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PeaceForce

Thank you for an indispensable start. I've been trying to learn the Arabic script on and off for years now, first on Memrise then Drops, but find that they and DL (no offense) go too fast into vocabulary. The letters in their stand-alone and shape-shifting positional forms should be covered first, arguably.

In any case, learning the script is no small feat. I understand that it traditionally takes about two weeks to master. Hopefully online platforms can expedite the process with enough entertaining mnemonics.

Any prospective DL Farsi course from English would pose a similar challenge, adopted as the Persian script is from the morphing Arabic one. Kindly take heed, any budding volunteers ...

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zanzaboonda

They definitely throw you into a bit, though I've seen some people complain that there are too many alphabet lessons. Lol I'm sure there's an app specifically for the alphabet or a great Tiny Cards deck. I was in the middle of creating a Farsi alphabet deck to do just that, though of course the pronunciation is different.

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/leighforbes

I'm loving all the alphabet lessons! (I'm aiming to get to level five in them all before moving on – these things have to be really branded onto my brain, or I get frustrated very quickly.) Just wish the glyphs were (a lot) larger!!

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zanzaboonda

I like them, too! I think they're incredibly well structured. I think they are sprinkled throughout the course, too, from what I've read. So you might run into some more.

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/StephanVog9

I am one of those complaining that there is too much repetition in the alphabet lessons. I love repetitions, I need lots of repetitions, esp. when it comes to learning vocabulary. The problem with the repetitions for learning the Arabic script is that they repeat the same 5 pairs over and over again in the 'match the pairs' exercises, thereby making it pattern matching exercise, while paying less and less attention to the details. And by pattern matching I mean here that you can find the pairs just by distinguishing the number of characters, or by identifying the easy to recognize characters (like, oh, this is the one with the k). Whereas the confusing pairs (for me esp. ـنـ|ـبـ and ـيـ|ـتـ) don't get special training. And this is not about not knowing the difference between a baa and a nuun, or a taa and a yaa, it is about reliably recognizing these characters, esp. in their middle form, when text is written in smaller font. There are scientific studies on the difficulty of reading Arabic, which shows that reading the Arabic script in smaller font sizes is very error prone, not only for learners like us, but even for natives. And a lot of the practice for characters could already be done with real words, rather then the non-word character sequences, esp. using minimal pairs, ie words, which differ only be one character.

July 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zanzaboonda

I think that's valuable feedback, and it might be worth posting on a new thread so the folks in charge are more likely to see it. I definitely agree that the middle form is the most challenging, especially with the small font size (which I'm really hoping they'll change).

July 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PeaceForce

Well, in any event here's hoping a Farsi course gets added to those for the ME languages now taught (Arabic, Turkish and Hebrew), just in time for world peace!

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zanzaboonda

Let's hope sooner than that! Lol I would love a Farsi course so much.

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/M.Arabi

me too i need it for my college it's an essential subject i study history in college of literature what is the point of learning it

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Kleent

Thanks for this new course. I waited it so badly lol. Good work ^_^

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zanzaboonda

Ah, I had nothing to do with the course, unfortunately (I'm a student, too) but I'm really enjoying it so far. I hope you like it!

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MohammedRa944065

أ= alf

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mikem90

Great tip! Thanks

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/meimei2018

Shukran!

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marijo333

sure it helps, thanks and have a little lingot

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/VanAya76

Thanks for your tips and of course its very helpfull for someone who really wants to learn arabic :)

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Tintin_73

Thank you so much for your helpful suggestions!

June 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/isaac_dark

Thank you please make a whatsapp or en group

June 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bykunn

thanks

June 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/prky
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Thank you! Please share more!

June 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/nan00shie

Thank you, this helped!

June 29, 2019

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Very good tip. You can add يي (two dots below) like a Yoga pose :)

June 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/volumniax

Excellent! Thank you :)

July 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/um6661138

according to some arabic speakers in a recent discussion post the arabic course has many spelling and accent errors. i am bummed.

June 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zanzaboonda

There are always some issues with courses in beta (that's what beta is for), so I'm not too worried about it. I'm sure things will get ironed out soon. :)

June 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/um6661138

hope so. : )

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/naifhawi

yes this is true , i am a native Arabic speaker and i can tell you when i checked the course there are a lot of errors especially the accent

June 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/setarehr128

Can't you contact admin? I'm fairly sure they let native speakers help improve courses... the more the better!

June 27, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/um6661138

crap. i don't really have time to learn arabic anyway, but i was really excited. guess i'll wait a bit longer

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/StephanVog9

Notice, Duolingo uses automatic speech generation, not recording of native speakers. I.e. the course creators have no control over the pronunciation. Given that this is TTS (text-to-speech) generated, I am surprised how good it is, despite the errors and inconsistencies. I would prefer recordings by native speakers, ideally female and male voice, and from people from different regions to get some variety (for example the vowels seem to be pronounced differently in different regions, e.g. a like in cat versus a like in father), but DL has arguments for using TTS.

July 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Libertad54

شكرًا

June 28, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Leillia

Thanks! That was helpful. :)

July 6, 2019
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