https://www.duolingo.com/EvgenyCat

Can we talk about how we don't learn new words in Arabic?

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has a good understanding of the Abjad. It seems like all the lessons are concerned with the sounds, and still relying on the Latin alphabet.

It seems that every new lesson going forward is still concerned with the difference between shadda and non-shadda letters. I GET IT.

Also I recognize some of the words when the lesson asks, "what word goes with 'baab'". Why doesn't the lesson say that باب is door?

I used to be a native speaker of Arabic but I forgot nearly all of it when I was very young. I took Arabic in college and it's been almost 10 years since I took a serious lesson (any Al-Kitaab people here?). I tested out of 7 lessons, which is not surprising since I know the Abjad well, so why am I still tested on the Abjad!!!

Sorry for my rant, I was really excited to see Arabic in beta and only want to help. I mean if you're going to ask the users about 3-letter words, right there is the root for nearly everything, so why not tell us what it means!

June 29, 2019

8 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/MitjaSaje

It is all about the method of learning. Most of learners are not native speakers or familiar with the language so for us it is essential to master pronounciation and writing. When the meaning will be told later it will be easyer to remember.

June 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Heike333145

Exactly.

I think a course should (and in most of the languages I do it does) target the weakest learners; those who have never been in contact with the language at all.

I also strongly believe that the Arabic course will grow. There will be more vocabulary and grammar because 33 skills, including all these letter lessons (which are necessary for people like me!), is just insufficiently comprehensive material to really know something of the language.

The course is a good start: It works, we can use it - and on this basis it can and certainly will be extended.

June 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/EvgenyCat

The Arabic dictionary is full of 3 letter words that would teach both vocabulary and basic pronunciation.

Sometimes the words are nonsense. Why isn't there a "find which word is 'kitab' - book"

June 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/JoyeEverett715

Agreed, I hope they expand it.

July 4, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Gunnar388832

As you mention, you can test out the things you already know. Obviously understand the writing system is fairly crucial if you are going to learn a language and so far I find this course way better than the Hebrew one (which lacks sound and do not really teach the writing system). Though it would be nice if there was a clear separation between the lessons teaching abjads and the rest.

June 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/EvgenyCat

I agree having it separate is better. One of my points aside from the repetition of basic concepts was the fact Arabic is full of 3 letter words that can teach both abjad and vocabulary. "klb" - dog; "ktb" - book; "byt" - house "jml" - camel

June 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/NeridaPeters

I've tried a few courses with different alphabets. They are all about the same. It's a great way to learn to read the letters and that's important. I would prefer to learn the meaning as well as just the sound. As far as learning vocabulary goes, I've found that memrise is much better. I find the Duolingo system annoying, but I know that it works well for some people. I'm looking forward to learning many strange sentences when I'm done with the letters. And I'm also hoping that I will be able to conjugate verbs correctly.

June 29, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/indigofirenet

I agree. It would be much better if they used words to practice the sounds and the alphabet rather than nonsense. Also: separating the phonetics from vocab would be very helpful for cases like ours!

June 30, 2019
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