https://www.duolingo.com/Gregdas

"Das sind zwei Geräte."

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April 16, 2013

12 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Ymgarl

"That are two devices" is accepted, but "That is two devices", which is grammatically correct is not?

May 3, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/almightyefraty

How exactly is it grammatically correct? the "is" refers to the devices, and there are two devices. It should be are.

May 29, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/AliasAKA

Perhaps it should be are, but we would never say that in English. We would say "That is two devices." Look at it this way: the set of devices is seen as one entity, similar to how ein Paar is one entity in German, and yet in English we would consider a pair plural... sort of weird that we flipped on this one. That is two devices is grammatically correct because it is referring to the single entity that would contain all those devices (replace "two" with "set" to get this: That is a set of devices; notice a set, implying only one set that contains two devices). If we were asserting them separately, we would state "Those are two devices." Either sentence would describe the same thing. Typically though I would say English speakers would probably say That is two devices if the whole grouping was two, and we would say those are two (of the) devices to describe a subset of the larger set. I hope that makes sense.

June 13, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/klaytaybai
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It is true that many native English speaker might say "That is two devices," but they would be grammatically incorrect in almost every circumstance when using this construction. The correct wording is "Those are," which is the plural of "That is."

June 20, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/helenvee
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You are absolutely correct. "That is" is grammatically incorrect when referring to more than one item.

July 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/hutcho66

It should never be "That are", 'that' is a purely singular demonstrative pronoun. It is different in German AFAIK, which means 'Das' can mean that, this, these or those. The fact that the German sentence has 'sind', you should be translating this as "These are two devices" or "Those are two devices".

Don't confuse Das with Diese/Dieser/Dieses, both can mean either this or that, but Das is a pronoun and Diese/Dieser/Dieses are demonstrative articles.

June 13, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/lipstymil

I think the correct English would be "those are two devices". "That are" is no more correct than using "is" with a plural.

July 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Gregdas
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Shouldn't "these" be "diese", not "das"? I thought das was used as a demonstrative for "that".

April 16, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Santi_Minstrel

Correct me if I'm wrong: It is possible to use das for more than one object. In English, however, the plural of 'this' is 'these' (and 'that' is 'those' which I suppose would be accepted as well). Dieser, diese, dieses (depending on gender) are also demonstratives, but they are not pronouns (please confirm!) and require to be followed by the noun (as 'this car'). In plural it would be diese for all genders, with the same restriction.

April 22, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Chitresh_Chahar

This is confusing.. here comes another exception... das with sind means these/ those

May 29, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/hutcho66

Well it makes sense if you think about it, sind is the plural form of ist, so is equivalent to are. You wouldn't say That are two things, you would say These/Those are two things

June 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/leweskiddy

Man würde auf Englisch 'that are two Instruments' eigentlich nicht sagen.

May 12, 2013
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