For those in need (including myself) in a table format.
EXP = experience point(s). 1 lesson = 10 EXP.
Bonus EXP: no mistakes - +5 EXP; 1 mistake - +4 EXP; 2 mistakes - +3 EXP; 3 mistakes - +2 EXP; 4, or more mistakes - +1 EXP.
|1||0 EXP||59 EXP||60 EXP|
|2||60 EXP||119 EXP||60 EXP|
|3||120 EXP||199 EXP||80 EXP|
|4||200 EXP||299 EXP||100 EXP|
|5||300 EXP||449 EXP||150 EXP|
|6||450 EXP||749 EXP||300 EXP|
|7||750 EXP||1,124 EXP||375 EXP|
|8||1,125 EXP||1,649 EXP||525 EXP|
|9||1,650 EXP||2,249 EXP||600 EXP|
|10||2,250 EXP||2,999 EXP||750 EXP|
|11||3,000 EXP||3,899 EXP||900 EXP|
|12||3,900 EXP||4,899 EXP||1,000 EXP|
|13||4,900 EXP||5,999 EXP||1,100 EXP|
|14||6,000 EXP||7,499 EXP||1,500 EXP|
|15||7,500 EXP||8,999 EXP||1,500 EXP|
|16||9,000 EXP||10,499 EXP||1,500 EXP|
|17||10,500 EXP||11,999 EXP||1,500 EXP|
|18||12,000 EXP||13,499 EXP||1,500 EXP|
|19||13,500 EXP||14,999 EXP||1,500 EXP|
|20||15,000 EXP||16,999 EXP||2,000 EXP|
|21||17,000 EXP||18,999 EXP||2,000 EXP|
|22||19,000 EXP||22,499 EXP||3,500 EXP|
|23||22,500 EXP||25,999 EXP||3,500 EXP|
|24||26,000 EXP||29,999 EXP||4,000 EXP|
Hello, I want to know if you can show us how much xp we need to get a golden owl on a course. P.S: I have a golden owl on Navajo, quite easy when you have fewer lessons then Spanish.
that isn't xp-based is it? i have gotten one when i completed every skill just to level 1. (then got de-owled when new stuff got added) You could count the lessons on each skill and add them up to get an idea of how much effort is needed, but I don't think there is an exact mapping from xp to owl.
When I had read this, I had to look if I have been de-owled! But I'm so glad, I'm not. :-)) A lingot for this lovely new English word I learned!
It doesn't depend on EXP, but on completing all skills of a course to crown level 1.
I'm a native native Spanish speaker, and a C2 English teacher. At school, I wanted my students to have access to all the exercises at once from the school Duolingo account. So, logged from the school account and I took the last exam in the "English from Spanish" tree, and boom! I had my golden owl in less than 20 minutes. And all the skills marked purple, and accesible.
Thank you! Clear and concise and formatted nicely. Perfect! I suggest anyone who has clicked this post and found it useful to "Follow" the post so that you don't lose it!
Bookmarking might be better, if you don't want hundreds of comments in your inbox! Then again it might be interesting!
This is helpful, especially with the changes removing level progress checking on your profile.
Yes, personally, I think that was not a good decision. The level system is what keeps me motivated, not crowns (they are very inconsistent when it comes to comparing between different courses anyway). That is why I prefer the website over the application.
I may be missing something obvious but is there still a way to check your level (or XP) without making a forum comment like this one?
are you a japanese native? or was this hiragana knowledge gained from your level 6 duolingo?
No. I'm a native Mongolian with a minimum knowledge of Japanese before and after Duolingo. :).
They are still there with the flags next to your username on the forum. I think they only show up on PC, though.
No, they show up on Macs too. Only in the forums, not on your profile. There have been rumors for the last eight months or so that admin might get rid of them altogether. That would disappoint me so much that I might just take an indefinite break from DL.
I get you Scutigera. I thought it was kind of strange that the poster above me said "they only show up on PCs." I usually refer to the version that shows up in a browser as the platform version of Duolingo. Thanks for the articles, particularly
In 2006, Apple began transitioning Macs to run on Intel’s x86 chips instead of the PowerPC architecture. This wasn’t just swapping out a chip manufacturer — Mac OS transitioned from being a PowerPC operating system to being an x86 operating system. Macs now use the same Intel chips found in “PCs.” The last version of Mac OS X to even run on PowerPCs at all was Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard back in 2009.
I thought it was awful that Microsoft copied the general design of Apple's OS when they invented Windows, but I guess the courts gave reason to Bill Gates. Now I see the tables turned with Apple using Intel's chip... so it has gone both ways.
One thing I do NOT want to do is to promote Apple's exclusivity. I do appreciate their service and quality and will continue to buy their computers, but I don't want to be a part of their promotional service. So I won't call their computers "Macs" anymore, just "laptops" or "desktops."
De nada. :)
It does get confusing since so called "smart" phones are also really personal computers (technically) so I think these days we have to designate between "web" and "app" and "devices" because there are a lot of differences there, though sadly less and less as sites, including Duo, dumb down their pages to look more like the Apps (which I find infuriating...).
For the most part what we see on Windows compatible machines is what we will see on a Mac, and what we will see if we open the browsers on the phones. What will be different are the browsers we choose (and how much we modify them with user scripts for instance to force a dark mode).
There are however some major differences between the Apps. For now the top two are Android, and iOS but that does not mean one stops being a phone. :D
Well, you probably already knew all that. :)
hi jairapetyan, good to see you ! your flags are all in order, highest levels first, I can't figure out why mine are all scrambled and mixed up. Do you know how to keep them in order?
AHA! I tested out of the remaining lessons to complete all the crowns (at least level one) and now my flags are back in order!
My flags are out of order at times! Don't know why! I hope that works for you!
Hi Camilla! Nice seeing you too. I have noticed that flags are out of order when you first post a comment, but after refreshing the page they go back to the correct order.
Actually, to me, your flags looked perfectly in order yesterday even before you completed your remaining skills. Nor for that matter have I every noticed anyone elses flags out of order, except my own, when posting a comment. Now I have a theory: When posting comments flags are displayed out of order in your own browser. After reloading the page they're ordered correctly.
I confirm this. I work on mac and the flags for my mac still show levels as of now.
The number of upvotes on this post and comments of appreciation is a good indication in my view to Duolingo that plenty of their users would prefer that they don't get rid of the Levels. I hope that they take this fact into consideration before getting rid of the Levels, if they decide to take that final step.
Cool :) So, I'm at level 20 for Korean, but technically I'm only halfway to level 25.
They are still there on the forum of the website version on PC and Macs. They also can be viewed on Duome.
This is really helpful, I actually didn’t know the exact amount of EXP you need to advance to each level. I can now keep track of how much to go until I get to the next level. Thank you!
Спасибо и teşekkürler! (Yes, I just combined Russian and Turkish. :) )
I wonder, does anyone good at math see any kind of formula for how much xp goes up between levels? If so, could there be a makeshift chart for unofficial levels beyond 25? (After all, I've seen people request that for a long time, and levels as we know them seem to be going away anyways, so why not?)
So, I made a chain table (of span ascension in addition). Take what you will from it.
Personally, I couldn't find any formula, but I hope others will.
level 2 is half of level 3
level 12 is half of level 14
level 14 is half of level 18
level 20 is half of level 30
60, 120, 200, 300, 450, 750, 1,125, 1,650, 2,250, 3,000, 3,900, 4,900, 6,000, 7,500, 9,000, 10,500, 12,000, 13,500, 15,000, 17,000, 19,000, 22,500, 26,000, 30,000
Whether it can be divided by 3 (1=yes, 0=no): 1,1,0,1,1,0,1,1,1,1,1,0,1,0,1,1,1,1,1,0,0,1,0,1
level 1 5,000x60=30,000
level 2 120x250=30,000
level 3 200x150=30,000
level 4 300x100=30,000
level 5 450x66=30,000
level 6 750x40=30,000
level 7 1,125x26...=30,000
level 8 1,650*18...=30,000
level 9 2,250x13...=30,000
level 10 3,000x10=30,000
level 11 3,900x7...=30,000
level 12 4,900x6...=30,000
level 14 6,000x5=30,000
level 15 7,500x4=30,000
level 20 15,000x2=30,000
level 23 22,500x1...=30,000
That's all for today folks! Maybe someone else can carry on the good work.
Always thought I'd be level 25 before I finished the course but with these stats I'm not so sure. Level 1 is 1/500 of level 25? I could scream! Gives me a new appreciation for those who are at level 25.
Well darn! It was worth a shot at least.
Hopefully if there actually is one, someone will manage to discover it.
This should be sticked! Thanks a lot! After the update I cannot keep that much track of my levels anymore.
No. 1 skill = 5 crown levels ~ 1 crown = 1-10 lessons (depends on said skill and crown level, amount of lessons rise with each crown level).
To complement your table, and @Songve and @Ben429172, the amount it rises with each crown level:
- 1st crown = lessons x1
- 2nd crown = lessons x1
- 3rd crown = lessons x2
- 4th crown = lessons x3
- 5th crown = lessons x5
Example: a skill that has 10 lessons in its first crown level...
- 10 lessons to get the 1st crown,
- 10 more lessons to get the 2nd crown,
- 20 more lessons to get the 3rd crown,
- 30 more lessons to get the 4th crown,
- 50 more lessons to get the 5th crown.
(10 + 10 + 20 + 30 + 50 = 120 lessons in total to get all five crowns for this skill.)
This means you'll have earned at least 1,200 XP in the process of doing those 120 lessons just to get five crowns in this particular skill (unless, of course, if you use the test out feature).
For each lesson a skill has in its first crown level, you'll have to complete that lesson 12 times to earn all five crowns.
That is not the way I have it. They are all the same amount of lessons for each level. Level 3, 4, and 5 are are all the same amount of lessons
One of the first Hiragana skills on the Japanese course has 60 lessons on the fourth crown level alone. :).
Ah, 1 lesson is 10xp. For 1 crown you need to do all the lessons in the skill set, which can range from 1 to-the most I've seen is 9.
I have 251 Crowns and 15,000 plus XP points. What does that really mean as far as how much French I've learned? TY.
I could only tell you if I ever reach your level in the French tree. It also really depends on whether you use outside sources for learning. Sorry, Dranke.
However, according to French learners on Duolingo, who have completed the tree to 100%, they tell you the tree is only a practice tool and it alone won't get you talking fluently, but is a good way to set a good foundation for a successful learning journey. So keep learning and don't give up. ;).
Bonne chance !
thank you! I cannot understand why my level 25 Spanish has become a gray owl, and Spanish flag is listed as the last of my flags. On duome.eu it says that I need to complete 48 more lessons to reach a golden owl. How can that be? I have 276788 XP and I used to have a golden spanish owl. When a lot more new lessons were added to the course, my owl lost its color. I can't make sense of it, the level clearly isn't only tied to XP. My owl is sad to have lost its gold, but I'll keep working away, and hopefully by a month or so it will shine again!
For a golden owl, you need at least one crown (= crown level 1) in each skill of the tree. When a tree is updated, adding new skills, you lose your golden own. You regain it after "conquering" the new skills (i.e. getting at least one crown in each of them). This is not linked to your XP level.
Thanks for your helpful info - I have tested out of the crowns I was missing, and now my owl is golden again!
Thank you, I really wish Duolingo would stop taking things away that we all use
You're welcome, Potato. If they take away levels, I'll be saying my farewells to Duolingo.
Okay, so levels do not equal crowns, and number of lessons to get a crown is dependent on some arbitrary number? I used to like when you clicked on a subject and it told you the number of lessons for that level, I really hate this % thing but I've realized that with Duo updates nothing goes back to what it was. So I have 104 crown learning Chinese, and I'm at level 14. That's odd because I'm at 3 crowns for Russian but level 4, hmmm. I don't really care (no really I don't) as my only goal is to learn enough Chinese to figure out better ways to teach my students English. I know that sounds weird but it works. Thanks for taking the time to do a chart and it seems that you have "hit" it on the nose that many people appreciate this info. Here are 3 lingots
射射, Perfect English!
The percentage thing sure is pretty annoying, since it rising up on one skill when you're doing lessons on another. It would be really nice to be able to see how many lessons you need to do to get a crown.
They should increase the lvl-cap, I'm only at the Emergency skill and already at max level.
Good idea to make a list though, no idea why they changed in the account.
They could make the XP for each level track a linear equation or curve and remove the cap entirely.
Just made the lingot count to 30! Thank you for making this, it is very helpful for many!
Wow, cool stuff, thanks! I loved seeing my levels and I wish they had not made that change.
Very useful. I've been confused since levels were removed from my profile. Thanks
i'm really close to level fourteen of german, which is weird since i've barely passed the first checkpoint
Thanks. Posting on a forum seems to be the only way to see what level one has achieved.
I hope this gets stickied. It would be a handy post to refer back to sometimes. Maybe give it more upvotes, so it can be top all time!
I really don't understand why Duolingo wants to get rid of the level system. The crowns are inconsistent and not informative at all. They also do not motivate me. Learning my target language keeps me going, but reaching level 25 is a good first milestone.
because it is inconsistent depending of the course the language and the basic language. Most courses are mostly starting from English. For instance if I take the German course it's length is not the same as a less evolved foreign to foreign language. So I am 24 in German right now but in all honesty it doesn't mean much. I can't follow the German news on tv so far, I can only pick a few words here and there, because my tree is only half complete. Still I'm 24...
So the solution would be to have levels specific to each course. But then it starts to get really really really difficult to recalculate after each course modification.
Crowns are like levels so far and mean nothing more. The only thing that really matters are the tree and the stories. The rest is pure cosmetic.
I agree with you that the levels and the crowns do not tell you much about your proficiency in a foreign language, not only because the length of the trees varies a lot. They only tell you that you have gained 30 000 XP in a language. However, I don't expect to be fluent after finishing the tree. Levels and crowns are more or less pure cosmetic, but I just like the levels a lot more. They remind me of video games. :) The stories and also the podcasts are a great addition to the trees.
Also if I remember well the story behind Duolingo, the main guy behind it is the one who developed Captcha. He then tho it could use the same principle to help translate complete books to an other language and that's how Duolingo started.
Since now they are more focusing on offering a real approved way to teach a language I suppose they have to change a lot of things like levels.
Thanks! 19 lingots on one of your comments. How do you have levels on so many languages?
Is there a way to see our levels without looking at a comment on the forum? I think they used to be visible on the profile page but not anymore :/
Thank you!! I don't know why they got rid of levels. I had started to come to forums to see what level I'm at now. But that's ridiculous. Also I didn't realise you got more xp for getting everything correct in a lesson - yikes! I mean... that's great!
Where does one find the experience points? I only see crowns, fire and lingots. I'm guessing I should be looking someplace else?
I'm still confused. I have completed lots of lessons and don't see anything about 'experience points'. I am using the free version and not Duo Plus. Could that be it?
your levels appear to be all in order now! In a dffrent thread someone shared their theory that when you refresh a comment the levels get back in order. I had the same question you did!
I just refreshed, and my disordered levels came back in order! I think this works! :-)
Where can I see my level for my various languages? On the new layout of the site I can't find it, either on the desktop site, the mobile site, or the ios app.
I'm unsure how relevant levels are anyway. I am 24 in German but I have only completed half of the tree and even tho I can only understand a few things here and there in the German news I'm far from finished.
IMO the only few things that really matter are the trees and the stories. All the points and crowns are irrelevant.
Levels used to mean much more. Before Duo rolled out the crowns, most people would finish the tree before getting to level 20 even. So then the goal was to keep the tree golden (space repetition told us what we needed to brush up on) and get to level 25.
Now if we do the crowns up to crown 5 on each lesson we will hit 25 quite some ways before getting the currently Naked Golden Owl. However, German not only has been one of the languages here that has the most lessons, it also was recently revamped I believe, giving it even more lessons.
Now with the leagues and people doing the same lessons over and over to get maximum xp, levels have lost a lot of their meaning and it's quite possible that someone can get to level 25 before even the first checkpoint. :(
Anyway, a lot of people liked the levels (in addition to the other ways to stay engaged... at our own pace, not the pace of ultra-competitive do-anything-to-win league members we've never encountered before). We would get a celebration that we could share and a lingot for every level we had so far completed (15 lingots for level 15 for instance):
I just go through the tree one lesson at a time but I only validate the lesson if I reach the end with no error which adds 5 bonus points to the 10 points. If I fail at one of the question I reset the lesson.
I tried a few practices because I wanted to see how it would update "Words" but did not find it extremely relevant anyway so stopped after a few tries.
I did the first six stories but I will wait to have a better understanding of the language before going any further. I'd say that out of the 26275 pts I have I German around 200-300 are not from progression. Maybe a bit more but no more than 500 for sure.
I wouldn't mind the levels but if they were relevant to my actual progression in the language, which they are not right now :(
I just go through the tree one lesson at a time but I only validate the lesson if I reach the end with no error which adds 5 bonus points to the 10 points. If I fail at one of the question I reset the lesson.
Well you see, that was one of the great things about Duo is until recently we could take from it what worked for us and, it turns out we all seem to have very individualized ideas of what is important and what keeps us motivated (and you seem to have a unique way that I have never encountered before).
However, for some of us the recent changes over the last year or so have been very demotivating and I am sure you do not want to discount what other people are feeling just because you feel differently. Well, I hope that is the case anyway.
So maybe you will be at 50,000 xp points when you finish the German tree. But if someone has 50,000 points in Navajo despite it being a short tree, that does not mean they put in less work than you will.
Also, if you are relying on Duo alone to make you fluent then you will be very disappointed. Duo just builds a structure like scaffolding that you then supplement with other media and effort (looking words up in dictionaries, writing out conjugations, asking questions on the forums, reading grammar books, etc.) to fill in the holes.
I have. Perhaps if you are so inclined you will enlighten me to what you think I am missing and why the hostility with the downvotes (did my comment really deserve that?).
Es tut mir sehr leid das zu hören, Stephanie. Gib dein Deutsch nicht auf. Mach weiter so!
Oh I‘m not giving up. I was just pointing a fact about levels and crowns and trees.
I also have only 30 days of learning German so I know my ear needs more than that to get used to the language. I only wish I had a really good book about the german grammar which is sometimes really not intuitive