https://www.duolingo.com/Shoda_Fayez

Ladino & Coptic Courses!

So, as we promised you guys with the Ladino and Coptic courses :) so take a look at our progress

Well as I said before in here https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/32486248 that we are creating a FULL Ladino and Coptic course so,

Ladino:- 14% (Expected Launch date 23 September 2019)

Coptic:- 12% (Expected Launch date 5 October 2019)

And next time we will show you with photos our courses' progress but keep it a surprise and for you guys stay tuned ;)

ALSO:- We are looking for Igbo, Syriac-Aramaic and Scots (Not Scottish Gaelic but Scottish English) speakers to help us in this revival process :)

Thanks a lot :)

July 9, 2019

14 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Maltesejiena1974

i agree. i applied to contribute a Maltese course but there is no response until now

July 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/AmareloTiago

At one point, the President of Malta wanted to get her office involved in developing a Maltese Duolingo course.

https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/17485553

Maltese is on the short list of courses I most want added to Duo.

July 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Shoda_Fayez

Well AmareloTiago, As you see it is 2 years ago! I mean there's nothing that Duolingo has done with Maltese till now but I hope that there would be a Maltese Duolingo course, it would be awesome!!

July 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Shoda_Fayez

I hope there would be a Maltese course :) It is a very interesting language and I'd like to learn it on Duolingo :)

July 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Petroc2

Coptic is used in the Coptic church which has millions of members esp in Egypt and a priesthood. Ladino is a variant of mediaeval Spanish amongst descendants of Jews expelled from Spain 530 years ago to Morocco and all over the Turkish empire. The communities that used Ladino have gone .. to Israel and to Hebrew (and English) but a rich pan Mediterranean culture remains. As to Maltese... bring it on... a good introduction to Arabic words via our roman alphabet and a very clear island of 100% speakers. I would love to see Scottish (Gaelic) on duolingo but nothing against Lallans, Doric and Scots English.

July 10, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/ISpeakAlien

Are these courses in the Incubator or on some other website?

July 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Shoda_Fayez

No, it is on memrise website, they are some courses of our revival process' courses :)

July 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Maltesejiena1974

Who would contribute the coptic?

July 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Meital640

Is this official? :D

July 11, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Moira582602

Aye. It wud be stottin to ha a curs in Scots. It's aboot time we had a guid go at teachin a them sassenachs hoo to spir oor tounge.

Try reading some of Robert Burns poetry - he wrote in English as well as Scots. "Wee sleekit courin timerous beastie........." Other poets wrote in Scots too.

You can now get many books written in Scots. I love the "Gruffalo" in Scots!!! (shows my level of intelligence .............) There is a huge movement in Scotland into Scots now and there are lots and lots of books available. If you go to Glasgow or Edinburgh you will find them easily. There is a revival going on. Mind you hearing a Sassenach attempting to speak Scots can be very funny, unless you can say "ch" and roll your r's. I'm married to one! My dad informed me, "Yir no gonna marry yin o yon sassenachs are ye." Yes I did. And an ethnic Jewish one, non-practicing, at that!!!!

Buts Scots do speak English as their main language nowadays.

Scots is really a "creol" langauge - used in its technical sense. Doric (being revived) is much the same. But Gaelic is a different language family altogether and related to Irish - its from the Celtic group (Breton, Welsh, Irish, Gallician - there are 2 distinct groups in this family).

Coptic is really only used in the Copic Orthodox church - so my Egyptian friends tell me. So no good if you are just going as a tourist to Egypt.

Ladinio is not really used any more as a main language - sadly. There are some super Ladino songs that you can get on CD. Lucy Skeaping, the British musician is a speaker of Ladinio and sings in that language. Petroc is right about Ladinio. It is an amalgum of old Spanish and Hebrew.

Lang mae yir lum reek and may the moosie ne'r leave yir girnal............................. (May you always have a fire to keep you warm and enough food even to feed the mice......in other words, good luck!)

July 12, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Shoda_Fayez

Thanks a lot for your advice and well it is very nice for me to go to Glasgow or Edinburgh but I guess not this year or next year, maybe later so I just need someone who can help me just for creating the scots course, because my scots knowledge isn't really enough for creating half of it. But you know what, I try to keep the heid till I find a scots speaker, ah dinnae ken! ah dinnae ken braw scots to create a whole scots course, if you wanna help, it will be my pleasure :) Lang mae yer lum reek! :)

July 12, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/SweetPaw

Th' scots coorse wull be stoatin tae gather a great lot o' xp fur sassenach speakers.

July 11, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Moira582602

You will need someone who really understands Scots, is a native speaker, and knows how to properly develop and teach a language course - not easy. Native speakers aren't always good at writing language learning courses unless they have done training.

I can tell you many funny but sad stories about people who went abroad thinking it would be fun and easy to teach their native tongue to others, without any training in linguistics and how languages work. Their pupils learned all sorts of mistakes and didn't learn the language in a logical and correct order. Then they had to unlearn what the amateurs had taught them, later when proper teachers came along - not an easy task, in fact soul destroying.

I would not advise a non native speaker to develop a language teaching course, to be honest. You may end up teaching wrong constructions and words, or using out of date expressions. You need to know the language inside out, how it works, how it operates within the culture and the correct development from easy to difficult constructions, from present to more complex tenses and how the different parts of speech work in the language (not the same for all languages).

There may already be something in existence for Scots. Get in touch with the Scottish Storytelling Centre in Edinburgh who may be able to help.

But to be honest, I think there are other languages that would be more useful for people to learn. Scots is not an "official" language. English is the official language in Scotland. Gaelic is only used by native speakers in the Western Highlands. The Eastern Highland form of Scottish Gaelic has all but died out now, although there are occasional vestiges still around with older people. My next door neighbour, many years ago, now deceased, spoke it and he said then that it was all but dead and the Western form of Gaelic was the one used. Interesting to learn as it is a Celtic language.

Much better to concentrate in learning one or two languages really well so that you can communicate in everyday situations with a wider range of vocab than you have in DuoLingo, rather than just collecting a list of half learned languages.

It is one thing using DuoLingo but quite anther in communicating clearly and with good language reproduction in your chosen language in that country at anything other than a basic level.

Duo is really fantastic. But it is only a beginning - and a very good beginning it is too. It takes many years to really learn another language well enough to communicate fluently. I speak from experience.

So keep learning languages, learn to communicate fluently in them and enjoy learning them. It's fascinating. But be realistic.

Good luck. Have a lingot for an interesting discussion.

July 12, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Shoda_Fayez

Oh thank you so much for these wonderful and useful information you gave me. Well I've just told mom that Duolingo is most fascinating language website I've ever seen in my life! Even I convinced her to learn German on Duolingo :D Lol and speaking about learning languages yeah I agree that the person should master the language at the beginning and then jump to another language although I think that speaking a language fluently doesn't necessarily take years. I know a friend who MASTERED Finnish in just 14 months, you know of course how hard the Finnish is! And yeah it is really unfortunate to see such languages like Scottish Gaelic or Irish Gaelic's native speakers just leave it and start speaking English instead although the problem is from parents who start speak English and leave this nice language, so logically the children will speak English and when someone talk to them in either Scottish or Irish Gaelic, I believe they won't understand a single word! That's why we need to revive these languages and make them back again (well that's what we hope) although we need a little help from some organizations (especially the educational ones) to create big revival courses to those endangered languages. And thanks again for these wonderful advice and thanks a lot for this lingot :)

July 12, 2019
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