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"Ich komme mit dir zum Rhein."

Translation:I am coming with you to the Rhine.

April 16, 2013



Hah, using the German spelling of "Rhein" in the English translation is considered incorrect!


It accepted Rhein today on a previous question 21/2/14


Huh. It did not accept it today, May 2, 2015


I am failing to understand why the English language decided that "Rhein" was too German-y, swapped a few letters around and went, "Yeah, totally, that's way better. Good job, guys."


The Rhine is actually an international river. It passes through Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Austria, France, Germany, and the Netherlands. "Rhein" is not the default spelling and the origin of the name goes back to Proto-Indo-European.


That satisfies me, thank you.


(It passes through France only because the French have taken Elsass.)


And Lorraine too


It's because in English "fine" makes the same sound as "fein" in German for example, so any "i + letter + e" makes the sound "ei" in German, so same thing with "mine" and "mein" and so on.


This is my answer: ''I come with you to the Rhein''' and why is this wrong?


i think because you used "Rhein" instead of "Rhine"!


I go with you is not accepted?


Different verbs. To go = gehen, to come = kommen.


I agree fully with JohnApel. Both I and others have mentioned this in relation to other lessons. In English you can't "come" to some place that is away from the speaker; you have to "go" there. The German verbs "kommen" and "gehen" do not mean exactly what the English "come" and "go" mean, and word-for-word translations using them don't always work.


But think about the meaning. If you are with me and we are not at the Rhein, we have to go.

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    I think you just have to accept that it's another bad translation to make sure you know what "kommen" means. I do think they should accept "go" because that is how it would be said in English and Duo isn't a stickler about literal translation in other places.


    It's a major river in Germany. Or it could be the band, but that's "Over the Rhine".

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Chris T

    the difference in using 'zum' and 'zur' is....?


    "zu" always takes the dative case. "zum" is a contraction of "zu" and "dem", and "zur" is a contraction of "zu" and "der".

    zu dem Haus ("dem Haus" is the dative of "das Haus") -> zum Haus

    zu der Schule ("der Schule" is the dative of "die Schule") -> zur Schule




    Chris, it's the same concept as einem vs einer and dem vs der den etc. They conjugate their base propositions to respective case or tense and we don't. We'll just have to get used to it. I'm making a chart. But once you learn the basic Dativ (indirect object) case or accusativ (direct object) case forms, those endings pretty much work for all the propositions. I believe the original ones we learned were nomativ case so the new cases confuse us. I compare the confusion with Spanish present and past. The endings they use are now in reverse but i got used to that and I'm gonna get used to the German way too. Don't forget to conjugate aus (from) with the correct Dativ case article. And gegen (against) with the correct Akkusativ Case article. Good luck!


    Why is it dative after zu,m bei,m or auf, aus?


    Good list of propositions Raymond. Saving it. Thanks. To answer your question i guess you just have to remember those are Dativ and others are Akkusativ, still we haven't learned yet the other cases i saw there was one that starts with a g. I forgot what it's for. See my post above. Maybe that will help you from an American English speaker perspective.


    This is how it should be translated in English: "I am coming to you with the Rhein".


    The order is important. You are going to the river (zum Rhein), not with the river (mit dir). Be careful with the spelling of the river, as well! Rhine is the English spelling.


    Those in farther English speaking countries have no idea what the Rhine is so we write Rhein because it's a proper noun and we don't know what else to do with it. Good to know but it's gonna take a lot longer to learn German if i have to learn every facet of world geography too!


    "I will accompany you to the Rhine" should be accepted.


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    I agree. I used the same synonym as you for "mitkommen" and had it judged wrong by DL. And this is two years AFTER your post.

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