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DailyDuo OPEN THREAD INAUGURAL POST [20190712]

Do you have a question that needs answering? Are you uncertain if it's been asked before, but can't find the answer you need through search?

Fear not!

This post will be a place for you to ask your questions without fear of it being downvoting out of the forums. Throughout the weekend, you can comment down below with whatever it is you need help with.

What kind of questions can I ask?

Well, anything, really. From lingots to Leagues, Duolingo to downvotes.

Just try not to flood this with spam, okay? You can find the definition of that in the Community Guidelines if you're unsure.

Who will answer my question(s)?

Myself, possibly other mods, and anyone else who wants to.

What will happen after the weekend?

This post will be locked (which means you can see it but can't comment on it) and a new one will be opened on Monday at 12:00 am EDT. (Don't worry, if you submit questions to this at 11:59 pm EDT they'll still be answered before the forum is locked.)

How will I be able to find this post after it's locked?

I've put in a "code" of sorts in the title, as well as a link to this post for Monday's so you can find it. Monday's code is 20190715.

So please, ask away!

Special thanks to @Scutigera for suggesting this idea. You can find the original idea here.

Monday's Post

July 12, 2019

175 Comments
This discussion is locked.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Scutigera

I like it, and it seems to be working. Thanks for giving credit. :)

Sooo... a question? Okay, what took you so long. :D


I think this has great potential, and you are doing a wonderful job so far. :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

The idea never crossed my mind haha. Sometimes our community have ideas that no one would have expected. Thank you for suggesting it!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Scutigera

I'm kidding with you. I think it took you all of 30 minutes to get the post up from time of suggestion. :D I thought it might have to go through a committee first, then an incubator, and A/B testing and then maybe we'd see the first Open Thread in the general discussion 6 months to a year from now. :D

Anyway, it's not like I am some genius. I have seen Open Threads on other forums. I think they are community building which is something that is sorely lacking on Duo since we lost the profile feeds, and then Clubs. What I was not anticipating is that the Open Thread here seems to feel like a safe place for those who have questions. I like that.

Thanks for implementing it. =)


I do have a question though after all. :)

Can mods see who down-votes (or up-votes) a thread or comment?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

We can't. The voting is 100% anonymous.

I'd consider this akin to A/B testing, except just available for everyone. If a week proves to be too much time and it becomes too much to handle, I'd definitely consider moving to the "Daily Duos" (which is more catchy). I want to see how this pans out first, though.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Scutigera

Well, if you do go for Dailies (which I think might be more effective and, once people catch on to the whole idea, might really slow down the extraneous posts that end up getting hidden by down-votes), then I believe it will need to be a shared task (maybe you take one shift per week) as otherwise you will burn out.

Maybe they could even get temporarily stickied (the most current one). And as new rotating posts people will look for them which will generate more interest.

Also you do not have to answer every single question. At least not right away. Relax. Let the community work for you. As we saw by Merkavar's thread, people are eager to answer questions. We just do not want our answers disappeared (another reason the open threads can be a great resource).

So far though it is turning out better than I expected (I believe I chose wisely by bringing the idea up to you). :)


And thank you for the quick answer too (I have been wondering about that for weeks; now I can ponder other things). :) :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

Update: since it got so popular over the past two days, it'd be better as a Daily Duo (with long weekends to account for people not being as active).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

You're absolutely right. And again, thank you.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Cs1987

Regarding the people who verify reported sentences in the courses, are they able to prioritise these by the number of downvotes the sentence has received in the comments, or is there some other way of prioritising which sentences to correct? I am interested in this as there are still some examples of incorrect grammar or unnatural language usage in sentences that have been in the courses for a long time (sometimes more than a year), but still haven't been corrected. There were some particularly bad examples of this in the Chinese from English course that weren't corrected for around a year or more despite being downvoted (and presumably reported) many times, though most of the worst examples have now been corrected.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Trofaste

Downvotes on the sentence discussion don't accomplish anything. In fact, if they do anything, they make the sentence less likely to be noticed by anyone with the ability to do anything, because they're hidden when they get to -5.

In the Incubator, we can look at the sentences with the most reports, but the problem is, the vast majority of the reports we get are useless. They're spam, or they're just wrong, or they're asking questions (which we have no way to answer except in the SD, where it's usually already been answered), or they're reporting a technical issue we can't do anything about, or they're insulting us, or... 99% of reports are one of those, only.a very small percentage are actually useful, and we have to wade through all the others to find them, so it takes a long time. Also, there are thousands of sentences, getting thousands of reports every day, and only a few people working on the course, so even if most of the repirts weren't useless it could still take quite a while to get to any particular report.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ASZ18101849

It would be nice to get the "There is a problem with this exercise" option available for reports on desktop. That way, people can describe the exact problem they have, instead of checking every single box in the report dialog even though those issues do not apply. I've seen people do that a lot when there is an issue with a sentence and the options in the report dialog don't even have to do with the problem they have.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Trofaste

If you mean the reports where you can write what you want, I agree that it would be nice to have those on web too. Having said that, though, most of the freewrite reports we get shouldn't actually be reported in that way. When a correct answer isn't accepted, the "my answer should be accepted" reports are far more useful to us. With those, all the identical reports are grouped together, so we can see how many times it's been reported (and when it's wrong, reject them all at once), and we can see exactly what the user wrote. Very often there was a typo and it would have been accepted without it. We also rarely need an explanation of why something should be accepted.

When there's a bug, we can't do anything about it, the place for those is the bug reports here. When it's a question, we can't answer it because we have no way to reply and we can't see who wrote it. Those should go in the sentence discussion.

That isn't to say that they shouldn't be used. By all means use them, for example if an answer is accepted which should not be. Just make sure it's the right place for the issue and check the sentence discussion first.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Corinnebelle

What do you do when some of the options are removed and the sentence is not making sense in English? Thanks for your tip about downvotes and thanks for all the hard work you do!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/aegkagee

When I was finishing crown level 5 on the English->German course I hit quite a few sentences that were basically just broken. They didn't accept natural, valid answers, and often had pretty unnatural "model" answers. The sentence discussion went back years with people saying they'd reported answers that still weren't accepted.

It's pretty understandable that many of these sentence discussions had then been heavily downvoted: it was the only lever left! As most people don't read the forums, telling people here that downvoting is the wrong thing to do isn't going to change things.

You're fighting against this:

Image of worn grass from people cutting a corner between intended paths

[Source]

The sentences with really negative scores are upsetting people for some reason. Sometimes the sentences really need updating. Sometimes they are controversial. Sometimes they are just hard and whining learners don't like being wrong. But I'd argue it isn't just the last category, and negative votes are a useful signal. It would be worth inspecting the most negatively-voted sentences, and either fixing them, or dropping a note in the discussion to say why the sentence and answer is useful and staying as it is.

If it's not possible to find the negatively-voted sentences, then consider asking Duolingo to help with that. Their current system has set up the "desire path": their design should respond.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Trofaste

My point is exactly that downvotes aren't a useful signal on sentence discussions because we don't see them and they make it less likely that we will (we don'thave a tool for finding the most dved discussion, and if we did it would be a moderator tool, not a contributor tool). If a sentence has a major problem that would prompt the downvotes, then we'll see it when we look at the sentence in the Incubator, especially since we'll have the reports sent through the proper channels to help us. Downvoting the sentence discussion won't help us to find them that way, which is the main way we have to locate problems; even if it did, we can't reset the votes so the downvotes are still there after the sentence is fixed, making them rapidly a useless tool.

We could ask staff to give us a way to find the most dved SDs. But Duo has limited dev time, and many demands on that time, and tools we've been asking for for years that would have far greater impact for us aren't here yet. Because its usefulness would be so limited, I would much rather staff spend their available time on other things that will do far more to let us find problematic sentences quickly.

Also, downvoting SDs has another drawback in that once they have 5 downvotes, they're hidden (which is why we're even less likely to find them), and they don't show up in search results.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Aileme

Downvoting sentence discussions does not reach contributors at all. You need to use the report function:
https://support.duolingo.com/hc/en-us/articles/204752124-How-do-I-report-a-problem-with-a-sentence-or-translation-


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Scutigera

Please do not down-vote sentence discussions because that can hide them from search (both on and off the site) making them impossible to find and the Duo search is already difficult to deal with. Sentence discussions are not troll threads.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/louis.vang

I got messages from the courses English-Dutch en reverse, more than a year after my suggestion that the suggestion is accepted.

Probably you have to wait till enough other students make a suggestion on the same sentence.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

I'm not too sure. I'm not a course contributor nor do I know much about how that process works. This is definitely something I'd like to know about, too, though.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Corinnebelle

I suggested this idea years ago. I'm glad a mod is trying it. Some people tried it back then, but it wasn't stickied or official. Scutigera you got the right person's attention. One thing we should do is use the search key Ctrl+F in Windows. Then we can search the post for questions that might have already being answered.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dogomolo

One thing we should do is use the search key Ctrl+F in Windows. Then we can search the post for questions that might have already being answered.

Have you tried searching "Turkish" on this post? My point is: content is loaded dynamically while you scroll the post and you cannot use ctrl + f to search unloaded content (I haven't tested Firefox).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Scutigera

This is so true dogomoto! Good point. This hampers the Google searches too. There are also often people in the discussion forums who ask question but when I refer them to the other comments that answer their inquiry they respond that the app does not show all the comments. :(

But I certainly do not need that stupid app "feature" on the website.


Yes Corrinebelle, you had a good idea. :) I wish they had listened to you then. But we have hope now. :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Corinnebelle

:) Firefox working fine. Scutigera's name appears 12 times as of the time this was posted.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marc41177

Instead of scrolling, go straight to the bottom of the page so that it all loads, and then use search.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Njordisk

Since you're a mod; where did English for Danish speakers go?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

I don't think there ever was an English for Danish speakers course.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EnlightenmentV4

There was one in the incubator. Was it there by mistake?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Trofaste

We know no more about it than you do, but that's a reasonable guess.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

I checked the incubator just a moment ago. I don't see an English for Danish speakers course either out or in development.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Njordisk

Exactly. It was suddenly removed without any explanation, which is what I'm asking for :-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

I honestly can't give you that. I'm just a moderator for Duolingo in English and the Japanese for English speakers forums.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/louis.vang

When a course in the incubator loses his contributors, or there is no development in the course, than is there no reason for keeping the course in the incubator.

That may have happened.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Trofaste

I don't think that's it. For one thing, the course wasn't there very long. I'm not sure it even ever had contributors. Courses with no contributors have stayed in the Incubator far longer than that. In fact, courses haven't been removed from the Incubator before, excepting those added for April Fools a few years ago, no matter how long they've had no contributors or been inactive. Also, if work has been done on it, there's no point in removing it just because nobody's active anymore. It can still be useful to any future contributors.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JoshSellsGuns

As a trial, this post will be a place for you to ask your questions without fear of it being downvoting out of the forums.

I mean, you can still be downvoted it just won't disappear lol.

Anyway I've wanted to ask for a bit now: what does the daily life of a mod here look like, as far as "work" (quotes, because as far as I know you aren't compensated) goes? What kind of systems are there in place to assist you? My only real moderator experience was on the r/teenagers subreddit on Reddit. We relied pretty heavily on bots that would catch key phrases we programmed and sent us the posts through a queue. Is it anything like that?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

That's why I said "downvoted out of the forums" lol. You can't stop people from downvoting.

I think we're all fairly normal. I'm pretty new (only got added to the team a few days ago) so I can't speak for everyone that's a mod. It's 100% volunteer and we don't use bots. I think its a pretty organic operation, though I believe some use scripts as a means of easing the workload.

There's 230 some odd of us (give or take, people leave and join) spread across all of the 130 some odd forums on Duolingo. We all help each other out and communicate if something's going on in a forum we're not a moderator of.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MissSpells

Great idea!

What happened to the integration between stories and tinycards, has it been discontinued? Also, with regards to tiny cards, what happened to the option to add images directly from search?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

I'm not too sure. I use Tinycards but never noticed that story vocab was integrated (possibly because I do the German stories?). I also never made a deck, so I'm not sure about that.

I'm sure someone (possibly another mod) will be able to provide some clarity.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MissSpells

When you finished a story, you would get a prompt asking if you would like them to be added to tiny cards and then a personalized mini deck would be created for you, in tiny cards, full of the words you clicked on while reading the story. However, lately I am not getting that option. I am not sure about German, but it was available for French, Spanish and Portuguese.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Scutigera

There is a fresh (and really well formatted) post about this issue here:

https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/33075671

So far no one who knows anything has contributed.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/daKanga
Mod
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WOW - thanks for pointing this post out Scutigera.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

I never noticed that feature for German. That is a bit weird though. Maybe they're phasing it out like you wondered...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jamie574779

There's been less advertisement on Duolingo for their app Tinycards and Stories for some odd reason has been removed.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/daKanga
Mod
  • 287

You might be interested in checking out:

From what I pick up there is continued commitment by Duolingo to add to additional language learning resources.
ie.

Stories continue to be extensively developed also, from what I see.

And they now cover Spanish, Portuguese, French, German.

Though as you mention, tinycards seems to be taking a bit of a back seat at the moment, with all the momentous changes across these features, as well as :

And including the substantial work of continued improvement on the courses, as mentioned above.

Also another something I keep my eye on, being the stated manifesto :

Bear in mind, this is IMO (in my opinion).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IsakNygren1

Why isn't it possible to see how many XP there are left to reach the next level anymore?

Why isn't the forum section organized as a regular forum so people don't ask the same questions all the time? It's not unusual to see the same questions being asked the same day, others at least a few times a week.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

I don't know why to Duolingo Team decided to get rid of it. I don't see any value to it other than it possibly takes away the "I'm grinding 500 Basics 1 so I can get to Level 25" factor.

I'm also not sure about why the forum is more organised. I decided to open this post (after it being suggested of course) so that the random questions could congregate here. Or if people are posting new questions we haven't answered before, then we can see them as opposed to them getting -5 votes and it's suddenly invisible.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jamie574779

Yeah, I've put a lot of time into a post about things that could improve on Duolingo and I have five downvotes, meaning it's pretty much completely hidden from everyone else's view in the forum. All I was trying to do was help Duo out. sighs


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/niallktin

It drives me nuts when I see someone downvoted a question or comment that had no harm in it just cause they are having a bad day or whatever. Serial downvoters should have the privilege taken off them.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sea-mist

It is valuable to me as I'm more motivated by the levels and knowing how close I are to the next one whereas I'm not motivated by XP amounts nor by the leagues. Fortunately the XP and how close we are to the next level is on Duome ..


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marie973350

If you go to your (unofficial) Duome-page https://duome.eu/IsakNygren1 you will see a list of all your languages, that shows, among lots of other useful information, the number of XPs needed for the next level (small grey number).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IsakNygren1

Thanks for all the info!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Super-Steve

If I do English from German and Spanish, does the Xp add together for my total English level? If not, does it show the one with the most Xp by my name? Or the one I added first?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/chocochipkookie

I had this problem once. I had 300 XP for the English for Spanish speakers course, and then 30 XP from my English for Japanese speakers course. It did not count the Japanese reverse tree XP for my total English count. Only one counts, and thats the one that has the highest XP. So in that case, I only earned xp from my Spanish reverse tree, since it had more XP than my Japanese reverse tree. Eventually I just deleted the Spanish reverse tree and did my JP one and it counts it all now.

Edit: also, I love the idea of having a post like this, Little_Tatws :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

I think it shows whichever one you're doing at the time, or possibly whichever one has the highest level. I've done English for German speakers (level 2) and English for Japanese speakers (unsure of level), but I'm not sure which shows up. Great questions, though!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/louis.vang

Here are my six courses learning English from 6 different languages.

I used only the course from (de) en (ge): you can see the level (22) en the words (1402/1397) and the xp's (20645/20284)

The other courses in wich i did only a few skills have also high xp's: 19571 till 20645.

But for reaching a higher level in the languages in which i did only a few lessons i have to collect about 19000 xp's.

Probably it is changed with the start of the levels/crowns,

But it likes that there is only one counter for total xp's for a language learned from different basic languages and that that counter is displayed for each course (all 6 courses).

The little difference between the courses is probably because of all the courses have not the same number of English words.

61 English (de) L 22 W 1402 XP 20645 +1855 XP to next level

74 English (fr) L 22 W 1397 XP 20284 +2216 XP to next level

21 English (es) L 0 W 0 XP 19895 +-19895 XP to next level

3 English (it) L 0 W 0 XP 19661 +-19661 XP to next level

23 English (tr) L 0 W 0 XP 19646 +-19646 XP to next level

0 English (pl) L 0 W 0 XP 19571


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Levi
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The ability to message someone on their profile is a feature I would like to have back. Many thanks!
2019.07.13


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Scutigera

Duo did use to have an activity feed/stream (similar to FB) for everyone and we could talk to each other on that. Apparently it was problematic for the site stability and took up a lot of resources, but also it was a bit of a troll-fest. I never had any problem but if someone had the profile pic of a pretty girl (even if that was not them but maybe a movie star) then they would receive relentless messages. I saw the feed of one of the admins and it was just hundreds of guys saying "hi" with some asking to practice with her, some asking to meet, and so on. No one needs that, especially on a language site.

https://duolingo.fandom.com/wiki/Duolingo_Wiki:Archive/Activity_stream

Here is one example of how it looked (non-trollish):

Finally, once Duo focused on schools having a messaging system seems a little dangerous for those who are underage.


Unrelated, you do not have to put the date in your posts. You can just hover over the timestamp of your post and you will get the date, along with the exact time of day it was posted.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

I agree. The ability to message someone would be a great feature to have. Unfortunately, that's up to the Duolingo Team to decide.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ASZ18101849

Couple of questions.

  1. Will anything else be added to the Lingot shop?

  2. I'm in the Gold League right now, and I do roughly 100 XP in a week. I've been seeing many users climb up to the Ruby League. I'd guess I need about 300-400 XP to be promoted from Gold to Sapphire, but what is the minimum amount of XP I need to get in a week to be promoted from Sapphire to Ruby as well as to stay in Ruby?

EDIT: I also have some feedback about the forums that I forgot to add here.

  1. Upvoting and downvoting in the forums is bugged - every time I try to upvote or downvote a comment (on the Android app), exit the comment section, and then reenter, I notice that my vote on the comment is gone.

  2. It would be nice to display the time stamp for the comments on the app so that I don't reply to a comment that's over a year old without knowing it.

  3. It would also be nice to indicate deleted comments and show the replies to the deleted comments (if any) on the website as well as the app.

  4. I'd also like to see the "Give Lingot" button added to the app as well.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marc41177

I doubt there could be a figure given for what XP you need to be in a certain league, given how variable they are.

I do 100-200 a day, based on how well I know the material I'm focusing on and what else I have going on at the time, and that seems to keep me comfortably in ruby.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws
  1. Not sure. I'd like to see more added, but that's not up to me.

  2. So I've been in Sapphire since May 19. I'd say you'd need about 2000 XP if you want to be in first place, but you could get as low as ~900 if you're willing to be in 10th. It varies week to week.

As for your feedback, it's appreciated. I can't do anything about it (nor do I know a lot about how the Android app works because I have iOS and they're developed separately) though.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ASZ18101849

Thanks for the quick reply! I really like this idea of weekly Q&A threads, by the way.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

No problem! I'm hoping this will cut down on the number of repetitive posts because then nothing is getting downvoted until it's out of sight.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Super-Steve

Can users lock their own posts, and if so, how?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Aileme

Only moderators and staff can lock posts


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/vickielynne

I would like to be able to use the Streak Freeze for more than one day. If I have enough Lingots, I think I should be able to use as many Lingots as I wish to put more days on hold with Streak Freeze. Could this be an option in the future?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

I've heard of something called the "weekend amulet" that freezes your streak over the weekend. As far as I know, it's only available for Plus users.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ARCANA-MVSA

It's available on the app for 20 lingots (I believe). That's how I got it once though I'm not a Plus user.

Volgav vitsenanieff nivya kevach varatsach.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/vickielynne

Thanks for the tip. I downloaded the Duo app on my android and it did offer me the "weekend amulet" and I am not a Plus user.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jamie574779

Oh.. I've never seen or heard of it before.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IsakNygren1

I get the offer for weekend amulet every Friday for 20 lingots despite I'm not a plus user. I have used it sometimes.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ben429172

Does it only appear under certain conditions? Because I have never seen it in the iOS app.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

I've never used the Android app before, so maybe that's an exclusive? But yeah, it's never been on iOS nor on the web as far as I know.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonI24

Will you guys ever add Persian to the incubator. Also, how long would the Finnish tree be? It has to be long with all of those cases.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Trofaste

We (mods and contribs) can't choose what courses are added to the Incubator and when. Staff decides that, based on factors like number of potential users, whether they can make a good team from the applicants, the cost of supporting the course (for example, a language like Arabic or Japanese is technically much more complicated than one like French), and other criteria we don't know. You might want to have a look at this guide on how to request and show support for a new course.

For the Finnish tree, probably nobody really knows yet how long it will be. It takes a lot of time to plan a course and it's hard to say what the final length will be until you have at least a draft of the entire tree. It probably will be long if they teach all the cases, but if they're only making an A1 or A2 tree to start with they may not teach all the cases yet.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Hannibal-Barkas

Are the stories in the different languages "the same" or just "similar"? I had a discussion a while ago because I copied the text of a German story to offer a translation of a Spanish one. It turned out, they were different in certain points.

Follow up: is there a plan to build distinct stories for different languages or will they continue to use the same story line for all languages (... to come)?

BTW: great idea, this could turn out to become something very useful. Maybe there should be an index of the questions sometimes ;-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/louis.vang

Spanish for English: 192 stories (111 full stories) divided in 19 sets

Portuguese for English: 152 stories (87 full stories) divided in 15 sets

French for English: 144 stories (89 full stories) divided in 14 sets

German for English: 124 stories (69 full stories) divided in 12 sets

In total there are 114 different stories.

The stories are not identical: the storie about the woman in the bathroom that will be married: in one storie is the father divoced and in the other storie he has a happy marriage.

https://duolingo.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Search?query=stories

https://duolingo.fandom.com/wiki/Duolingo_Stories


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Super-Steve

What do moderators do and how do I become one? Is there a lot of time dedication involved? Do you have to have a certain amount of experience?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws
  1. Moderators are Global Ambassadors who go through the forums and answer questions, make sure everything is running smoothly, and (if necessary) delete spam.

  2. You can apply to become a moderator here. We're handpicked out of our applications and occasionally chosen for being a particularly outstanding forum user.

  3. It doesn't exactly require a major chunk of your time. Some other moderators are also contributors, educators, etc. so they have to attend to those obligations, too. It's flexible to your needs.

  4. I don't quite know if it's a requirement that you have to have a certain amount of experience in terms of moderating. I've been using Duolingo (if we go off of my old account) since August 2012 but as long as you're 18 or older and know how to navigate the forums, you should be fine.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/7redlight7

Many Iranians have applied for an English for Persian speakers. But nothing happens. Now we have Arabic which shares the same script with Persian. Any approximate date of responding to our applications?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/daKanga
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One thing you could do, is to assist in creating resource here in the discussion forums for learning English for Persian speakers.
And should you wish to do this, I recommend you provide links to any discussions that you put up.
This would not just be of benefit to the community right now. It would be a resource for the future, for when what we all hope for, that this course could be included as a course in Duolingo.

It would have many other benefits as well.

Including showing how well the community or key people can work together in developing the resources. Which is also key requirement for a team to successfully develop a course.

Also do not forget you can create resources in tinycards
Tinycards also has Audio for some languages, such as English.

And if you do this, I also recommend creating discussions here that link to the tinycard decks you create.


Also check out https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/15014194 , and follow through to some of the resources others have created for Persian, to use perhaps as inspiration.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

We don't have that information. I think this would be a better question for the staff.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TheFlumen

Just curious for anyone who has been to Italy:

In most of America, we eat pizza like this:

  1. The bread/crust (on the bottom)

  2. The pizza sauce

  3. The cheese

  4. Toppings (on the top)

However, my family recently traveled to Chicago (Illinois) to see relatives, and we ate at a pizza place there.

It turns out Chicago pizza is unusual (at least for me).

It is made like this:

  1. The bread (on the bottom)

  2. The cheese

  3. The pizza sauce

  4. Toppings (on the top)

Note: I am sure there are other places in America that eat like this, but I've only seen it in Chicago.

So I was wondering if in Italy, they eat it with the cheese on top or the pizza sauce on top.

Just wondering...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

That's strange. I've never been to Chicago or Italy, so I can't say I've ever experienced either of those.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RuwaydaAtH

What is it with the Incubator? Like if you wanna make a course, let's say for example Filipino[I don't know any. The first language that came up into my head ;p] and you apply to contribute for it. Do you have to have a certain amount of people contributing to it or a big amount of interest from the users? ^-^


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Trofaste

We don't know all the criteria staff uses to choose what courses come next, but certainly whether or not they can get a good team of contributors, the number of potential users, and the cost of supporting the course are all factors.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

I think it has to do with both of those things, but I'm not too sure. Great question! I think this is something that a Course Contributor could answer better than I could.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LindaNegul

How can I ask a question or leave a comment. Sometimes in Duolingo my answer will be marked wrong, when I am sure it is correct. I go to the comments and if others have raised the same point I can arrow up,or sometimes comment, but if no one else has commented I am unable to do anything? How can I start a comment?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

Are you referring to sentence discussions? In that case, you can (on the site) click the button that looks like two little speech bubbles next to the flag button. This will start up a discussion and you just have to comment like you would normally.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ben429172

I’m pretty sure that in the iOS app you cannot add comments to the sentence discussions. You can only view them and upvote and downvote.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/marcy65brown

That's what I've found, too.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EnlightenmentV4

Do mods have any inside knowledge into which courses will be put into the incubator next?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Trofaste

If we did we couldn't share, but mods and contribs generally get very little inside information.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

Yep. Mods and contribs also don't interact a whole lot outside of the forums, so we also don't get a whole lot of information flowing between us.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/garpike

Surely you already knew, then, that an awful lot of questions this thread would elicit would be ones you (or anyone else who isn't staff) couldn't answer to anyone's satisfaction?
Only doing it this way means you'll get a single, enormous, unwieldy thread that will quickly become unnavigable, rather than lots of small ones that will soon be forgotten (but easily looked up).

Also, any useful answers given will be difficult for future users to find using the search facility, as the topic is not specific and there will be hundreds of posts to wade through. Concentrating lots of diverse questions into a giant fuzz-ball of a thread is the worst possible way to harness DL's already terrible search functionality.

Having a thread like this is a very nice idea, but I don't think it's really a good or useful one.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

As I said, this is just a test. It may move over into a daily thread. Who knows?

That being said, I think pentaan answered this spectacularly.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pentaan
  1. You can post in the regular discussion forums.

  2. I always bookmark an interesting post in my browser and add a few additional key words to the bookmark.
    That's why I can always find valuable old discussions and comments.

  3. Google
    site:duolingo.com subjectname


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/butterscotchmrrw

Do you have any idea when the Navajo course will go from Beta to Stable?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Trofaste

When a course leaves Beta depends on how many reports it's getting. Obviously when a course first comes out there are lots of errors, because we're all human and errors happen. As users report the errors and they're found and fixed, the report rate slows, and once it's low enough the course leaves Beta.

There actually isn't much difference between Phase 2 and Phase 3, by the way, except for the report rate. The only real difference in functionality is that the contribs can start a new tree without extra assistance from staff after a course leaves Beta.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

Can't say. I recommend you check the Incubator to see if the Navajo team have posted anything.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Corinnebelle

How exactly do Leagues work, points per set, lingots, chests? Where do you manage to find 50 people starting at the same time as me?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

The entire system is randomised. As far as points per set go, it determines on what kind of people you're with. It won't take a lot of points if your league is pretty inactive vs a group earning 1000s of XP w day. The chests contain lingot prizes for the top 3.

Does that answer your question? I may have left something out.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JessicaDun8187

my last few ruby leagues, only the top 15 made it over 1000. i usually do 300-600 xp (depending on the language, French I breeze through considering I am a year 4 French learner-took French in high school)and then call it quits for the day.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

I've been in Sapphire since May 19. Up until this week, the top 10 was full of people earning (possibly cheating) a few thousand XP. Fortunately, it seems I may be able to make it to Ruby just so I can say I did it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/_Imperial

This is probably a stupid question as no doubt they're hand picked. But is there any possible way to apply for the position of Moderator?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

We're hand picked, but you do have to apply or stand out to the staff/other mods (your chances really go up if you apply though).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/la_creyente

Is their anyway I can delete a comment on my post? If I am offended or I feel that it is rude or whatever and it`s my thread, can I delete it?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

You can't. Only a moderator for that forum can delete comments. If you feel it's in violation of the Community Guidelines, you can report a user.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LindaNegul

Sandor2016 posted my question, (I received an e-mail) but I can’t find his question or the answer in the forum. How can I unsubscribe from this?The unsubscribe button just takes you to the forum. I am getting hundreds of emails a day, and want it to stop.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Scutigera

You have to actually do the second step (from the bottom of the comment push email "unfollow discussion") of clicking on the blue "following discussion" (at the top of the targeted discussion thread):





To get it back to the white "follow discussion":





Only then will the emails stop.

If you comment again, it will auto subscribe you again so just click on the button at the top, again.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Connorlinde

Why did Duolingo get rid of clubs?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

That remains a mystery to this day.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SpaceDoggi

So what's up with Yiddish?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

No one knows what happened to the contributors or why it stopped. It's a mystery.

This thread is now closed. If you have any further questions, please reply here.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AbAb1030

How do I change the text color here?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

Here's what you have to do (spell it "color"):

[colour=(the color you want)]Your text here.[/colour]


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AbAb1030

Alright. That's what I thought. ;) How do you make the words in bold and italics? [Hey who just upvoted me? I just posted this 4 minutes ago...?)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ASZ18101849

One asterisk (*) on either side of the text you are trying to make it into italics, and two for bold. Use three for a combination of both.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/skaralokian

Question for the moderators: I'm currently working through the French course and have yet to come across any speaking lessons. I've tried both in Safari and Chrome. Safari doesn't have a microphone option, but Chrome does, and I have it switched on. Is it accurate that there are no speaking lessons in the French course or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks in advance for any help that you can provide.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

You have to go to your settings and turn on speaking practice in order to access it. But yes, French does have speaking practice.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/skaralokian

Thanks, but I can't seem to find any "speaking practice" to turn on. Would you be able to explain where that option is? Thank you


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

So you go to settings on your Duolingo and then turn on the microphone. If you use the iOS app, you go to settings and turn on speaking exercises.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/skaralokian

I'm in Chrome and have the microphone switched on (it has been since I've started the course). Still no speaking exercises. Do you know if there could be any other issue?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Scutigera

You have to have the microphone switched on for both your computer and the settings in Duo:

https://www.duolingo.com/settings

I have mine turned off here:


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/skaralokian

How do I submit a bug report? Thanks


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

It might be tied to how far along you are on the course skill-wise.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/skaralokian

I'm currently on level 13. Do you mean that the speaking exercises might not come up until after that?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/skaralokian

FYI - I've googled this issue and found that lots of other people have had this issue as well, but none of the posts have a decisive answer. Is there a way that DuoLingo could look into this?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

I mean how many skills you have done, not what level you're on. I'm not sure why you're having this problem. Have you tried submitting a bug report? (My deleted post was just this. The reply button didn't show up until after I posted.)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

You can submit a bug report here.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AbAb1030

Are all the courses constantly getting improved? Like adding new skills and questions?

How are the extra bonus XP determined?

Also, does any questions mean ANY questions? Including requests for Duolingo to improve things? If so, I have a few:

Add more questions to each skill? (When I want to practice more it gets a bit annoying to answer the same stuff over and over again)

The ability to choose which specific lesson to work on? (Annoying to start all over again if I have a specific lesson that I want to practice)

Add a feedback page?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Trofaste

All the courses have a team of contributors working on them (though there may be some courses that currently have no active contribs). These contributors are maintaining the current course, which means fixing errors in existing content, and adding new sentences to the existing words in the existing skills. In the current courses, the structure is locked, skills and words can't be added, removed, or relocated. Those all require a new tree, which is a large undertaking and takes a while. Most courses are either stabilising their current tree or working on a new one. So yes, they're constantly getting improved, but users won't see the major changes like new skills on a weekly or even monthly basis.

From my own experience, I think the bonus xp is based on the number of correctly completed exercises in a row.

We can't do anything about feature requests, that's something only staff can do, so this is probably not the best place. Posts on the main forum are better for these, but look to see if there's already a discussion about it before posting a new one, and if there is, add your support there. :)

For the specific requests you mentioned here, more questions for each skill - believe me, often enough we wish as much as our users do that we could have more variety. But we can only write sentences using the words and grammatical concepts taught in that lesson or earlier, and that can make it hard to come up with even the minimum of 3 for every new word. It's as boring for us as for you, perhaps even more so as we have to look at the reports on those sentences all the time, while once you've learned them you can move on from the skill and see them again very little.

For the feedback page, the forums are the feedback page! Duo staff do read the forums and see the feedback users post there. :) That said, if the feedback is about a bug or an error in a course, there are channels for reporting these, described in these articles.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Scutigera

Wow! This Open Thread idea has been worth it just for your great detailed comments and insight on the contributor role. The things I did not know I wanted to know.

I'd like to see a separate "Day in the Life" post by you someday Trofaste. It could include screenshots of some helpful and unhelpful reports. :)

We could then link to it in future OT editions as a FAQ for all these future questions like those you've been answering these last few hours.

Thanks for all your efforts here. :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Trofaste

I may write one someday, though my days are not typical of most contributors as I work in many different roles and spend more time in support work (mentoring new contribs and helping others with technical problems) than in the normal contri uting work. In the meantime, a couple existing discussions for you to read. :) Contributor for a day from Deliciae's (not-so-)Weekly Norwegian series, and Reporting 101 from the same series, both of which I recommend to everyone. :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws
  1. I believe most of the courses are. This is up to the contributors for those courses, though.

  2. I'm not sure that I know how. I believe it has to do with how many you missed in a lesson.

  3. Well, you can ask them definitely. Only the staff have any power over them though.

3.5. You used to be able to choose which lesson you wanted to work on a while back. I don't know why this feature was removed.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ReidHT

Is Immersion ever going to return? I genuinely think that when it was around, it was a great tool and I'm sad that it left.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

I thoroughly enjoyed it! Between 2012~2013 it was great to get practice by translating Wiki articles. (Plus I got a little bit of knowledge on the side.) I don't think the Immersion is going to return after Duolingo switched from a crowdsource business model to a more conventional one.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/daKanga
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It is true that initially Duolingo sought to crowd source translations as the model to finance the provision of the site. To quote the article on "The Verge" 13 Dec 2018 (warning the verge uses cookies)

von Ahn applied the same logic to Duolingo in its early stages, by crowdsourcing translations from users as they learned new languages. The program eventually evolved into a feature that allowed users to practice translating BuzzFeed and CNN articles, but was removed after the company decided to concentrate on “just language learning, as opposed to language translation.” It has now shifted its monetization strategy toward Duolingo Plus, the company’s ad-free paid version, and the Duolingo Test Center, which offers English-language proficiency certificates.

However Duolingo still uses crowd sourcing to maintain and develop its courses and resources such as Tiny cards. This is part of the work all GA's do in their various roles.

It continues to be an amazing model of a business. With a small staff of approximately around 150 ish people, from what I have read. And with that small staff to have :

As of January 2019 the language-learning website and app offer 85 different language courses in 24 languages. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duolingo

And to continue to be able to not just provide these numerous courses, but to also maintain them, to improve them, to allow interaction by learners, that questions can be asked, and answers received. And it is the crowd sourced global community that to the main provide that support. Being, for example the majority of people reading this.

And remarkably, with the small paid labor force it continues to develop new products, improve course structures, and maintain existing products. While having

"about 300 million registered users across the world" who use the app (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duolingo)

And continuing to maintain its ethos :

We created Duolingo so that everyone could have a chance. Free language education – no hidden fees, no premium content, just free. (https://www.duolingo.com/info)

Though IMO this is only possible because it is seeking to provide and continually improve its language learning resources and to provide them for free for learners. This is why so many amazing people donate their time and resources that makes it reality.

nb. all this is IMO, and do correct me for additional insights and corrections, etc.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/daKanga
Mod
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Does anyone have any recommendations of communities on other platforms that are doing learning by translating articles ?
I know there was at least one active group that created a community that did this. Though I currently can not locate the link.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AbAb1030

This must be a hard one: How is the order of the courses shown determined on the front page of Duolingo before you log in? (I know it is NOT based on the amount of active user because Chinese is last on the list...)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

Are you referring to the little flags at the bottom to scroll through? I'm not too sure about that.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/daKanga
Mod
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It is decided by Duolingo - and thus can be one of those mysteries. And yes, over time the order has changed. When will it change again ? That is yet another mystery.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AbAb1030

How do the streak freeze thing work? Can it still freeze your streak when you lose your streak? Or does it only freeze your streak if you purchase it before?

Do you have to pay 10 lingots every time you want to do time practice? Or is it a permanent purchase?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

The streak freeze will only work for one full day of inactivity. After that, you have to buy it again.

The timed practice is a permanent purchase.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sheila915203

I really miss speaking with my friends in our Spanish club we had on the DuoLingo app. It helped so much to go to someone and talk about what was so confusing with Spanish grammar.

Why can’t we have the Spanish clubs back?!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

I think we're all sad about the loss of the clubs across all languages. Why they decided to remove them is a mystery to this day.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Boujleba

What is your favourite kind of potato?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Super-Steve

Depends on how you cook it, because I don't often eat mine raw. Mashed: White
Boiled: Yellow
Stewed: Yellow
Fried: White
Baked: White
Whole (in a soup): Red


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Boujleba

Nice! Ooh what about mashed potatoes with herbs rolled into a ball and deep fried? It's delicious, it's called ma'qouda. It's a Moroccan thing, usually made with white potatoes.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Aileme

I didn't really expect a potato appreciation thread, but now I'm starting to feel hungry when I should be going to bed...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

Haha. It came at the right time! It's just now 6 pm so I'm getting ready for dinner!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RuwaydaAtH

Me too! And I've got to wake up at 7. It's 11:20!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RuwaydaAtH

Sending you back a pack from the cupboard for the sweetest potato dreams. ^-^


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Aileme

Thank you! This will be the sleep of a lifetime!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Aileme

ouch! sending you potato dreams for extra high quality sleep!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RuwaydaAtH

Oh. They are so nice. I love them so much!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Super-Steve

I didn't know what they were called, but they are awesome!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Boujleba

Phénoménal! Absolument sensationnel!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

I did say anything, haha. I'm a fan of Idaho potatoes, but Russets are also good.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Boujleba

Nice. I like sweet potatoes (especially Korean ones) and purple potatoes.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Super-Steve

Purple potatoes are pretty good. I really like them baked with butter, garlic, and bacon!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

Fun fact: what most people commonly associate as a sweet potato (think the yellow-orange-ish coloured ones) are actually yams! Sweet potatoes look just like regular white potatoes.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Cruzah

Maybe this is a regional thing because I'm from the caribbean and here yams are white and a bit slimy after pealing. Sweet potatoes are a orange/yellow colour after pealing.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Little_Tatws

That's interesting to hear.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Corinnebelle

You can get white sweet potatoes/yams, purple skin white ones, orange flesh ones and purple flesh ones.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Linda7Italian

LittleT. Good luck with your trial post. Keep strong and take no nonsense.

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