Dark Mode for Lingots
There may be countless posts complaining about a lack of things to buy in the shop, and I'm not here to complain. Instead I have an idea: What if Duolingo had a Dark Mode option for purchase? Even though there are browser add-ons for making a Dark Mode, a dedicated one would be really nice and give us something to spend our Lingots on.
A Dark Mode swaps the color of text and background, for those who don't know. It makes it easier on the eyes, especially for night users. I am only explaining because it's apparently needed.
EDIT: For Firefox users, here are two great Dark Mode Add-ons that I use: Dark Mode and Dark Night Mode. I approve of their privacy, but if you are concerned about them, another option is the Mozilla recommended add-on Dark Reader, which is privacy focused. Any of the above work well, so try them out and see which you want to use. (I'm currently using all three, if you can believe that...)
I think that not only dark mode would be a good idea to add, but themes in all colors available for purchase in the shop (pink, yellow, high contrast, monochromatic, blue, etc.) Also I think the outfits for Duo should be added to the browser version as they are currently only available for purchase in the Duolingo app. +1 Lingot
I like that you want to share your ideas and that you are doing so in a positive way. I am not a fan of people who can't do anything better than tear others down or complain without offering solutions. Kuddos for you trying. I have taken time to go through this thread and up vote where others have put negatives...my donation to you. I have also give you a few useless lingots just because I can't think of anything better to do with them. Keep making suggestions and don't give a twat over what negative people tell you. :)
Due to an illness that I must live with I deal with side effects of medicines. Most of my side effects are harmless like headaches. If a side effect was unreasonable I do put off study. In my personal case if I allow these things to halt or interfere with my life, I would not be able to really live.
I use duo to enjoy life, and pursue my language interests! Dark mode would be amazing! I would save EVERY lingot for it!
- NEVER put yourself at risk! - If you are feeling unwell to keep your health in mind when considering study! Missing a a few days or even a week is nothing over your well being!
@Chaos_Hawk Do you have a recommendation for a safe dark mode option for chrome that would work for duo just in case? I am nervous about adding extensions. I still plan to still plan to keep waiting and see how things go.
For Firefox and also for Chrome users:
This add-on offers not only night mode (dark),
but also streak notifications/reminders,
printing lesson notes,
writing custom lesson notes and
quick courses overview.
I have tried all of the aforementioned add-ons\extensions for their Firefox version.
I assume that the Chrome versions are also safe
(even though I have not tested them)
because each is by the same person who wrote the equivalent Firefox version.
Hope your health improves or at the very least remain stable and allow you to keep living your life to the fullest.
It shouldn't be for lingots, especially since the lack of a dark mode is in some cases honestly kind of an accessibility issue. I've got sensory issues which make using light websites hard sometimes -- I've been using the Dark Reader Firefox addon to combat that but not everyone is able to use an addon like that! And honestly that addon tends to sometimes work poorly for me, so I sometimes have to disable it.
I think that this idea has been mentioned before, but it is a great idea nonetheless! Dark Mode would help the night users, but Duolingo is most likely going to add in this feature for the premium users. Another thing to note is that Duolingo has an achievement for learning in the early mornings, which is why I wholeheartedly agree with you. Honestly, this idea deserves more upvotes. I (insert number here) the notion! :)
This is something I have actually put a bit of thought into. Should we stop talking about ideas because they haven't been received by the dev team or should we keep pressing it until they take notice? On one hand, as other said, it is probably a bit annoying to talk about the same thing over and over. On the other hand, if we back down so easily then our voices will never be heard. It kind of promotes a defeatist attitude. Which in case you haven't noticed, is insanely common around here.
I've run into this problem before, although I've lost the post where I had the discussion on this topic. I get that this is a free language learning site but still, Duolingo has over 300 million active users, and it can be pushed to make it even better. That will only happen when/if they want it to though.
Also have a useless Lingot :)
@ J.Compean I think your logic is flawed.
How many people come and read the forum, and how many took the time to read, let alone upvote. vs total user ship is ridiculous. How many of the 300 million are active? More to the point, it is one thing to use the app, and entirely another to go to the forum, particularly to browse general comments and not exercise-specific Q&A? I would venture very few. Then of those that would visit the chance of them choosing to click on a suggestion...? I think 248 upvotes (especially given that some may have given -1 downvotes) is a fantastic indicator of an idea that deserves consideration.
And yes, I well understand what you were getting at as far as resource allocation as a product management decision. That idea escapes many. I only take deference to your numerical comparison to state insignificance.
It's a great idea / suggestion. I prefer most of my aps in dark mode, and finally it's becoming a widespread interest/option across a lot of apps and platforms.
"Duolingo has over 300 million active users" I think you just made the argument against yourself. Look at how many people have upvoted you original post (248 as of this comment). Can you image if 248 people walked into the legislative body of any country with a similarly sized population (say the United States - 325 million), and recommended that or this action? To devote resources (tax dollars) to deliver a service that is only requested by a statistically insignificant segment of the population would be ethically questionable. I'm not saying no one should write on these forums about their suggestions for Duolingo; I personally really like hearing everyone's ideas for changes and new features.
You could make the same argument against wheel chair ramps - they're only required by a small fraction of the overall population, so why devote resources to them?
That an accessibility feature isn't needed by a majority of people doesn't mean that it shouldn't be implemented.
It's more that it should be a feature regardless of how many users there are, tbh. More and more, dark mode has been implemented into many sites, and while it's perhaps not quite standard yet, it would be a nice addition.
Your point is a good one, and I like it. Still, even Duolingo's posts themselves only get so many upvotes as well, indicating only a small percentage of users even bother with the forums. So while the people who liked my idea are indeed an incredibly small amount of the total userbase, they're actually a decent amount of the active forum users. Most importantly though: This feature is no new request. It's been asked for again and again, with no implementation as of yet.
The Duolingo Team hasn't really taken in many suggestions to my knowledge, and Dark Mode would be a great place to start.
They're called downvotes here as well. Anyway, I'm all for creating a lingot sink of some kind but I think if they're gonna add a dark mode they should just add it lol. I feel as though putting it behind lingots is kinda pointless. Then again, they put Duo outfits in the store so maybe aesthetic changes would go in the shop.
Thanks, I appreciate it. If I had to guess it may be because many users here only care about learning a language and nothing else. They may not care about the interface, the imbalance of this site's game mechanics, (I know it's not really a game but still) and people compare it to complaining anyway. What I think they want to hear is language advice, like grammar rules and examples as to when you'd use certain words.
I cannot provide much help in that area here on the English side of posts, but I try. I go to the English for Japanese Speakers side of the forums to help out best I can, but ultimately I'm not a scholar, so I guess many would prefer I don't use the forums? I don't just post "ideas for Duolingo", but I don't know. Maybe I'm just not understanding it right, but if so people should explain what it is that's actually wrong with my posts. Those people I appreciate. Oh well. Have a Lingot anyway, since there's nothing to spend them on.
If people are getting annoyed simply because they see a post they don't agree with, or a post asking a question they've seen before... My guess would be they just don't have anything better to do with their time than try to curate a forum they don't moderate.
Idk, maybe it's a control thing "I hate my job, but at least I can make a difference on the Duolingo forums!"
I think dark mode is a great idea!
Though I think a basic dark mode should be free because not having it could present a barrier to entry for some people who only get to study with Duo at night while they try to go to sleep.
Doulingo could also make other themes to spend our lingots on.
❂ Am legally blind, but dark mode options are a help. Amazed at the support this option is getting!
Re: Jan139433 I have never seen these posts before. If you've been a regular on the forum for some time, then you will have seen repeat posts. Otherwise, they are new to other people.
On principle alone, I really don't think accessibility features for a website should be sold rather than made a standard (despite how ridiculously prosperous everyone is in their in-game currency).
Besides, making it saleable via Lingots, rather than just a universal feature, would make more work for Duo with absolutely no advantage.
I like the idea of having something to buy, and I like the idea of dark mode, but I don't think basic UI features are something that should be purchased. Like, I'd be happy to buy a pirate theme, but I shouldn't have to spend 100 lingots to make my eyes comfortable while I learn.
It seems like Duolingo has prioritized adding languages and iterating on the UI over adding gamification. I can't speak to whether that is a good or bad decision, but I am pretty confident that it is just a matter of priorities. I'd be curious to hear why - I generally assume it's just a matter of "languages lead to user acquisition, gamification doesn't".
This is a feature that I'd love. I use dark mode for everything I have that supports it and would love to see it come to the site, even if I have to buy it with lingots. The extensions you can get are sort of nice, but everything seems a little wonky and on my laptop they're off at first. An official Duo dark mode would be a welcomed addition.
Not a bad idea, although you shouldn't have to "buy" accessibility features - you may not be able to stay on the app long enough to earn enough lingots (or gems) if it isn't accessible. Accessibility for visually impaired is an overall problem on this site (I learned a lot about that when designing a page to be used by the VA), and should be available in settings to everyone. Or better yet, make sure the next re-design meets visual impairment accessibility standards over all, and perhaps have additional features for those with needs that the standard doesn't meet.
I'd also like this as an option. I tried out both of the dark mode add-ons you have in your post, and I just don't feel like either of them look good on Duolingo. I have also used add-ons that specifically say they're for Duolingo Dark Mode, and there's issues with many buttons and metrics being transparent. Having a dark mode optimized by the devs themselves would likely get around these issues. I understand that a lot of people would rather Duolingo focus on just language content and don't like a lot of the little changes they make, so it's not a priority for me, but it would be a welcome change.
Yeah, the add-ons are not perfect. Closest thing though. Customizing one for a specific site is time consuming, although someone has worked hard on Duolingo Dark Mode. (I have the add-on, just don't use it at the moment due to it not working for Firefox currently) Give it time and perhaps the devs will get on it.
This is a great idea!! I had a similar* idea previously... no, more like 20 similar ideas. When I have ideas, they come in floods... back on topic, the staff seem to be ignoring me, maybe I posted too many ideas.
I've posted all of the Chrome links (and a few extra) in a previous reply to the same request.
Follow this link to see them:
https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/These are the links you are looking for
The links are in my two comments above this ⤒ link to Chaos_Hawk's reply.
I really want to see DUO add a dark mode, until they add it you can use the chrome extionsion that I have created which allows you to change the colors and font of DUO, https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/duolingo-appearance/oifnhalickiahlaoacabfafjaibhhimo.
this is very needed, i often do duolingo at the end of the day in bed, where i do not want to be straining my eyes. Upvoted.
I just want to comment that here is an app called Twilight that is very useful for dark reading. I have been using it for years. One problem for me is that the setting i use in Twilight, makes the yellow text impossible to read. Maybe there are tweaks I can do. Anyways, it's just a suggestion for a temporary solution.
That dark mode for Firefox coes not work at all with screen readers such as the narrator. I know what you're gonna say, why would you want to? Well, let's just say I would like it to. I also know that you might say, how is this relevant over here? It's not, just felt like saying something.
it is fine with this site, I love it , I appreciate it , thanks the owner of this site, danke, dont get dissapointed with bad comments, the number of subcriber shows confidence in your work. sorry for my broken english but hopeful i explain myself well. danke owner and your team.
also the skill levels be the colors that you want. For example if you don't want the gold or orange (bronze) color for the skill medals you can make them any favorite color that you want. Youu get choices of colors. maybe even two or more choices. Can have a rainbow of colors even add block or brown if want alos add the yellow and orange if you want it. Maybe make them the color of gems like the league colors are.
However, if those two add-ons are still a concern for anyone reading this, another option is the Mozilla recommended add-on Dark Reader, which is privacy focused. I've updated my post description to include this one as well.
A fundamental permission you have to give add-ons is permission to access all the sites you visit (because it's supposed to darken them, of course). Just make sure you actually read any provided privacy policies and permission listings to stay safe :P
thank you. Was going to try and research that as the majority of add-ons for good not to have knee-jerk reaction due to news stories about unrelated products.
Mozilla's advice: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tips-assessing-safety-extension
It's still going...
By the way that Dark Night mode for Firefox doesn't work properly. Looks like they forgot to invert the color on interactable objects such as buttons, so that the text on said buttons appears as white on white. Also, highlighted links still appear as blue on black, which is not the easiest thing to see.
I would also very much like to see this. I use duo lingo and memrise to help me fall asleep. I am sure my partner in crime would appreciate it if it wasn't so bright and so would I.
I think it should be available to every one and agree it should just be an accessibility thing, but perhaps to sweeten the pot for implementation it could be provided to Plus subscribers? Not my favorite idea but it may help to encourage people to invest in an excellent teaching tool that has helped a lot of people for free over the years.
Edit: btw, Memrise just implemented a dark mode ^_^ so excited.
I'm not sure that' s a very good idea...You see not many people have a way of getting lingots so if it is pricey (which it probably will be) the people who need it the most won't have it if they can't afford it so it wouldn't be fair, as it is a great idea for people will work on Duo for it so yea there is a perk but what about the downside that has more weight on the topic. As for the people new to this, it wouldn't be right because of the high need for this it shouldn't have a price. But again a great idea :) .
you can download the darkreader extension. I can link it to this comment. Its a free dark mode that you can toggle. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/dark-reader/eimadpbcbfnmbkopoojfekhnkhdbieeh?hl=en-US
Suddenly, I saw 10 lingots within 15 minutes of writing the above comment! And I am Amazed!!! Thank you very much for those Lingots!!! :)
Whoever has given me those Lingots, YOU ARE REALLY AWESOME!!!
This Duolingo Community is AMAZING!!! I am in Love with this Community!!!
it was what we English call "a joke".
It was not sarcasm. It was a pun, a play on words. Language is what this site is about, and language learning CAN be fun! Sorry this comes out of sequence - the original comment followed JSG's post and your response allows no further comment.
It is difficult to see sarcasm using nothing but text. I was not trying to say you didn't know what the Dark Web/Deep Web is, and even took into consideration that it may have been a joke. None the less, I wasn't sure, hence my neutral response.
As a side note, I'm a native English (American) speaker, and am slightly concerned as to your, quite frankly, insensitive remark. There are millions of users here who are all trying to learn how to communicate via dozens of languages.
I'm not mad or anything, just trying to remain logical. Downvote if you want, I don't really expect to get upvotes here and I honestly don't care. I'm just trying to learn and share what I've learned, because that's productive. It's kind of the point of this site, to be honest.
Yeah, this whole thing is super out of sequence now but just thought I'd mention that I've found a way around that reply button vanishing: If you reply to the highest comment in that branch, the reply button will appear and you can then delete your junk post. I don't know why it works but it does for me at least.
In response to your actual post though, no worries about the pun. Sorry if I came off as accusatory.
Using the trick I just taught you, I think it goes on forever. (Although the screen will eventually not display it ideally)
Yeah, the display is odd... Weird. I've never seen a reply chain this long before. It looks like it's coded to default back to the primary position when it runs out of scripted increments to the right. Funny, you really do learn something new every day on Duolingo.