Welsh aka "Elvish" lol

How come Welsh hasn't really gotten as many active learners or people who stick with it as other languages?

For those who don't know, the two most common forms of Tolkiens' "Elvish" are Quenya which is based on Finnish, and Sindarin on Welsh.

It sound so beautiful and is the much easier Celtic language to grasp for English speakers. I don't see too many people advance far in Irish.

Anyone having trouble w learning Welsh or having a hard time being motivated because of the low speaker population? The Welsh gov't has a goal of 1 million native speakers by 2050. I think it has about 1/3 of that right now, maybe more.

P.s. anybody have good resources for Welsh? Facts?

July 16, 2019


I have been with Duolingo for three years, but I have not been as committed as I want to be. I find it hard to motivate myself as not many people speak Welsh in Cardiff and I am unable to practise with others. I mainly struggle with pronunciation because of this. I have chosen to learn this language as I am welsh and want this language to continue. The language may also help me with my future career. I am very cultural for my country.

July 16, 2019

Cardiff has around 55000 or more Welsh speakers and plenty of learners. Get in touch with Menter Iaith Caerdydd and LearnWelsh Cardiff to ask about local Welsh-language groups and events. LearnWelsh offer many courses, too.

July 16, 2019

I live in Cardiff and there are loads and loads of events for Welsh learners: conversation classes in pubs, events at museums, plays, even hikes for Welsh learners. Did you go to Tafwyl in June? That was fantastic.

July 18, 2019

"P.s. anybody have good resources for Welsh? Facts? "

There are plenty of novels for learners of different levels available from Amazon (and others) by authors like Lois Arnold (I recommend "Ffenestri") and Bethan Gwanas ("Bywyd Blodwen Jones"). They usually include a glossary at the bottom of each page to help with new grammar.

Other, more obvious, resources are BBC Radio Cymru (aimed at native speakers, but I'm happy if I can get the gist of what's going on - or even just knowing the topic) and S4C (Channel 4 Wales - good as subtitles on many programmes are available in English and Welsh).

July 16, 2019

I don't live anywhere near Wales, but I love learning Welsh. It is one of the most fascinating languages I've ever studied. I have Welsh ancestry, and I feel rather drawn to it. A fun book I have used is the Usborne Internet-Linked Welsh for Beginners. It's for children, actually, but I still like it.

July 20, 2019

Thanks for posting this. Since you have
some information on Tolkien's constructed
languages, would you happen to know if
the 'High Valerian' language also might be
based on the Welsh language??

Great topic. Thanks in advance.
Keep up the good work!


July 17, 2019
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