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JAPANESE TREE v2 KANJI GRID

I used the list here as the source.

July 29, 2019

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/testmoogle

Nice! Very interesting to look through. ^^

I notice that adds up to only 1,115 kanji in the course? A little short of the "~1,200 kanji" figure stated for the course. It does feel like there are more hiding in the course that just aren't present in the words list though.

However, I keep looking at the "missing kanji" for N3 & N2 and thinking "I'm sure this kanji was in the course..." then finding no results when searching for sentence discussions with these kanji...

N3 追 (追う, chase/follow); 婦 (夫婦, married couple); 努 (努力, effort); 抱 (抱える, hold/have); 皆 (みな, all/everyone); etc.

N2 秒 (びょう, seconds); 州 (九州, Kyushu); 賞 (しょう, prize); 述 (述べる, mention); 券 (旅券, passport); etc.

Maybe I'm thinking of the reverse tree instead. Or maybe I'm thinking of kanji I typed and were accepted, but the kanji might not be taught. Still seems weird how many of them make me feel like I've seen them in the course though.

As for the kanji at the bottom, the "Not in our JLPT list Kanji" section... Lol. It always makes me laugh when I see those kanji which are missing from this JLPT list, because that list is the same one most websites use for marking the JLPT levels of kanji -- including jisho.org, haha.

How are 分 and 的 not in any of the JLPT levels?! They must easily be in the top 200 most used kanji, haha. Also, 身 (出身, origin); 無 (無い, not); 可 (可能, possible); 韓 (韓国, South Korea); 丈 (大丈夫, OK/alright); ... How? XD


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/s456976

Indeed, very interesting. Right, there are 1,115 kanji in FieryCat's list.

Yes, I have encountered 追、婦、努、抱、皆、秒、賞、述 in the reverse (Japanese → English) tree too. For example:

from my notes:

  • (新しいコースを加)
  • その警察は私たちをっています。
  • その男性はその女性をいます。
  • 彼は私をいます。

There is something to explore: Browser → Storage → Local Storage → duo.languageTokens.ja. Apart from some odd pinyin-romaji entries it does contain: (and 1023 other kanji)

  • その警察は私たちをっています
  • 私は
  • その警察官は私たちをっています
  • その警察官は私をっています
  • 私はいかける
  • 警察が私たちをっています
  • その警察は私をっています
  • 警察は私をっています

Haven't seen 券 as in 旅券 (passport) in either course yet. 券 is also not in the languageTokens list. This Japanese course (English → Japanese) uses パスポート (at least as far as I can see; have not finished the new tree yet).

州 seems to appear in the Chinese (English → Chinese) course: 州长 (zhōuzhǎng, governor).

Which list does the "Not in our JLPT list" section refer to?

枕喉咳坊拭無妖罠阪俺鞄袖丈碗膝拶鹸誰分的
韓爪炒肘鍋哺噌謎戚茹可寿鍵身杖椅蹴貼噛餅
挨噂箸 


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TENCHIJIN.

I am 99.99% sure I've also seen those kanji on the new EN-JA v2 tree. The total number has to be greater than 1,115.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BlackYeti42

I notice that adds up to only 1,115 kanji in the course?

1,116 by my count, were you excluding the kanji iteration mark, 々?

As for kanji missing from the list, I know for a fact that I've seen the kanji 曇 in tree 2.0, and as that's not on the list, it certainly does not include all of the kanji in the new tree.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/g12343

Hi, thank-you for the post.

Can you also update with the Kanji Kentei list? Thank-you so much!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Aine89244

Wow that's super nice!!! I feel they are quite difficult, because I found some Kanji that I can't use correct or I have never studied before lollollol


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/fallingleaf_271

Hey, consider yourself lucky. In Chinese, Kanji is all we have to work with. No alphabet, no nothing. Just radicals and characters.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DestinyCall

On the upside, in Chinese, the characters have half as many readings and the more complex characters usually include clues to help guess the right way to say them.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/malfruemulo

Amazing, is there an equivalent to this that uses school grades instead of JLPT?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TENCHIJIN.

I updated the opening post with another grid, sorted by Jouyou/Jinmeiyou


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