https://www.duolingo.com/profile/cam495351

Less "Match the Pair" games...

I love this app and this course but I might have to go somewhere else. The amount of "match the pairs" is ridiculous. Every other thing I do is matching the same thing over and over again.

Maybe we could have more challenging things like directly translating from Japanese to English without help. Or just anything to make it more challenging/different.

PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS!

August 5, 2019

10 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Procellis

I think that you might be suffering from the level 5 bug. As you level up your skills the exercises are supposed to become increasingly difficult. In some trees and some skills new sentences might be unlocked, but in general the most important difference is more translations into the target language and less matching. The problem is that level 5 is poorly designed. It is not really a level but rather a state of having finished all levels. You would expect it to be at least as difficult as level 4, but no, the programmers did not do their job properly. Instead of giving you harder exercises the fifth level will give you a little bit of everything, which means more of the early level content.

But on the other hand, if you are getting a lot of matching even on level three and four, you might be suffering from some A/B test meant to analyze how easy exercises will influence user behavior. The only way to solve that problem is to create new accounts until you get an account that isn't suffering from this issue.

August 5, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gxIKLACh

Admittedly it's been a while since I've tackled some of the earlier lessons, so it's hard to recall what proportion of the lesson content back then was indeed "match the pairs" related. I'm also on the old Japanese tree, whereas I see you are on the new, so my experiences might be different to yours.

But, with the above in mind, the lessons that I am and have been doing for the past few months have had very little "match the pairs" content at all. Maybe it occurs once or twice at the beginning of the lessons, and then the rest of the questions are a mix of translating from English to Japanese, Japanese to English and audio exercises. I can only speak for myself, but I personally find these lessons sufficiently challenging and I do feel that my Japanese is improving substantially as a result.

If I recall correctly, I feel that the lessons became noticeably more challenging somewhere around Home/Family/Restaurant. So it may be that you just need to hold on a little longer to see if things improve for you. (Or, it could just be that it doesn't take very much to challenge me when I'm trying to learn Japanese! :p)

August 5, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/cam495351

I'm on the home/restaurant part and it's still match the pairs every other activity, I hope it does get more challenging.

I'm also having to rely on the comments a lot as they don't seem to explain a lot :)

August 5, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TENCHIJIN.

Yeah. I think it correlates with the crown level rather than the point where you are in the tree. Level 0-2 you get images, matching and multi choice exercises.

I personally don’t like them because I learn less efficiently that way. The level 3 fill in the blank exercise is also ridiculously easy and rather annoying. Crown level 4 is all typing btw.

Also, I found out that, on my main account, as I do a ladder tree Spanish from Portuguese, the tree is not "infected" with those type of exercises and I can do mainly typing exercises. Then the CEFR aligned reverse tree, English from Portuguese has a lot of those image, matching and multi choice exercises.

I wonder if the Contributors have any control of how many image, matching and multi choice exercises there are?

August 5, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gxIKLACh

When I first started the Japanese course, I remember that I got through the earlier parts of the tree very quickly because it was full of very easy exercises (I thought I would finish the tree in no time at that rate!), which is why I suggested getting past a certain point in the tree to see some improvement.

If you're past the Home/Restaurant point on the tree having completed all to Level 5, and you're still getting loads of "match the pairs" exercises even on Levels 3-5, then that doesn't really sound right, and as Procellis suggests you might well be suffering from some kind of A/B test issue.

August 5, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ISpeakAlien

It's like that on the Chinese course too and it's very annoying.

August 5, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Robert_Martens

Did you know you can skip the matching pairs without penalty? Try typing in the Japanese and or English. THat is challenging

August 6, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Fake760343

It depends on where you're doing the lessons(and probably poxy a/b settings too...) For me they're mandatory in the app but skipable on the website. Which is fine because the app's "health" stupidity is well, stupid.

August 6, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GrafDyon

The biggest problem with this is that not only are those excercises very numerous, they are also the worst excercises for the later levels, since by then you should be able to just translate word by word.

August 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/No-Con

Less john and maria I say

August 7, 2019
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