Can I spend my 1000+ lingots on never again seeing Duo's "encouraging" messages?
I hate seeing them, I hate seeing "10 on a row!" or "you are learning!" or any those messages, because they are false, nobody is actually encouraging me, and I have had streaks of 300+ days before, so I don't need this false encouragement.
Luckily I have all these lingots and nothing to spend them on, so I would be more than happy to spend them all on never again seeing those messages.
I wouldn't mind seeing encouraging messages in the language I'm learning, or maybe have useful study tips or fun facts or whatever...
I wouldn't mind fun facts or tips/tricks. They serve a purpose. "Encouraging" messages do not.
Carol Dweck of Stanford University has done a lot of research on the ill effects of empty praise. It looks like many users intuitively realize this. But if those messages were in the target language they'd be useful on a linguistic basis, and more fun!
I agree with you. I think they should do the same with the ads. I ignore them in English. But when I went to Chile on holiday all the ads were in Spanish so I paid them attention.
jairapetyan- have some lingots for mentioning dweck. RSA Animate did a nice ten minute video on her ted talk.
Oh, it's just an encouraging thing in Korean, not like... it's not actually "fighting" exactly- it's equivalent to "go ____(insert soccer team, little brother, etc's name)
This really is a good idea! Unlike the majority of commentators here, I like the motivational messages. Yet, in the target language they would be far more useful and fun. Tips and fun facts – always good.
No - give me 10,000 lingots! Songve is forever being seen coming out of the shop wearing dark glasses and clutching huge shopping bags. That's why there as never anything left to buy in the shop!
What shop? Do they accept lingots in Venezuela? I thought bolívars were worth very slightly more... Oh, the Duolingo Shop. Okay.
Do what the rest of us do and just ignore them.
Come on now, you can do it :-)
(Have another lingot, I'm on a mission to get rid of them all)
That's an awfully defeatist stance. Ignoring a problem =/= fixing a problem.
Nah, you take some lingots. They just keep appearing. I must get rid of them.
I love how you are trying to get rid of them all and people are giving you lingots when you comment. lol
I did not use Duolingo for 2 years. When I'm come back a few days ago, I did a few lessons and suddenly that message appears. I thought, wow Duolingo implemented a new algorithm to show you when you actually learn a new thing. 2 hours later, I notice that message appears always if you answer well some exercises in a row. It was so dissapointed, but at least I was happy the first time I saw it.
7 days after: how can i kill that owl?
This is the problem. See it once - wow! See it a hundred times and question why?
Hey, Alan! I agree. When I first started learning, I didn't see Duo pop up at all. The first time I saw him, I thought that I must be doing something right. Now I'm just really annoyed that Duo keeps popping up. It's so fake and empty. I will assist you in the murder of that owl. él es cubos de mocos con sangre y cabello.
I'm not sure about the web version but you can disable it on your phone under settings.
I'm on Android and I can still turn off motivational messages in the settings
my "favorite" is the smirking "even when you're wrong, you're learning!" after a series of mistakes. how encouraging! now be off
Who's Owl Pacino? Oh never mind. I'd only roll my eyes anyway. So you were in the shop and you bought him?
It's too bad that you don't like Duo's appearances. It's supposed to motivate you to be even better. I hope it doesn't affect your studies. Keep up the good work and happy learning.
"...It's supposed to motivate you..."
I think it works like the high pitched teenager repeller at shopping centres in reverse. The oldies are to be driven out leaving Duolingo for the kids.
The signal Duolingo are sending out is "we want students with fast new computers who like movement"
I agree. By the way, I had to look up what "high pitched teenager repeller" is and Jesus, it's genius!! They should have that everywhere, not just in the UK.
Someone forgot to put in an if statement in the code to not show message after showing message > 10 times
I love how you said you had too many lingots, and then people gave you more
I'd have to spend 8 hours a day figuring all that out to save 8 seconds. Talk about diminishing returns!
What exactly do you need 8 hours for? All you need to do is
1) copy the coloured code in the end of that post
2) open console in your browser from the menu
3) paste this code there when you are on the main page of the site and press Enter
4) enjoy distraction-free study for a day
This all takes less than 1 minute.
that may sound easy for but it's got many not computer literate people like myself confused. I cant get to step three with the code as I dont understand where it should be put. I've spent at least 2 hours in the past reading posts and trying to figure out how to disable it.
To open the console I think you have to press F12 on the keyboard if you use Google Chrome as your browser. Then, at the top is written «elements», «console», «sources», and so on. You have to click on «console» and put the code in there. I'm not sure about what I'm saying, but hopefully, it would work.
I can't find a way to open a console on the Android version of Firefox (never mind to paste code into it).
WHOOOOOOSH! The lingot fairy strikes again! Enjoy your newfound wealth, peasants!
y...you can turn them off you know ? Go to settings and right under the general section is "Motivational messages"
I'd welcome the opportunity Ray. On mobile web there isn't even a general section let alone an option to toggle motivational messages on/off.
Which platform are you using to study with Duolingo?
Both computer and mobile. i've only found the settings via the phone though.
Open Duolingo on your phone and click on the face tab (between the heart and badge/shield tabs) You'll see it has your profile picture and all your achievments and friends. Above your profile icon it will say profile and next to that text is "settings" Click on the settings text and it'll display all the settings options. The very first thing you'll see is your profile information like user name, email, password and progress sharing. Scroll down and it'll have a section called daily goal where you can select how much XP you want to get per day to get your daily goal Below that is the general section where you can turn off sound effects and motivational messages.
If you still dont see it I can take a mini video or screen shots and share but I hope my instructions help you find what you are looking for :)
Thank you . Sorry not to write sooner the 'settings/general' opt out is now set on my phone as you described.
All Duolingo need do now is to carry the effect of this setting across to the mobile web version (the one I mostly use) and the job will be a good one!
What? People don't like these? I think they're so cute, especially when I bought and equipped a new outfit for Duo from the store.
When I miss a day, duo leaves these messages 'encouraging' me to keep learning but the thing is that i have no time these days... I try whenever I can but all of the emails duo lingo sends me takes up my inbox and it's really annoying!! My mum comments on them too, she gets the 'You have made Duo very sad' ones a lot :)
I got that one for my school account and I didn't care and eventually the emails stopped.
I'm still somewhat new here in terms of actually being active, what exactly are the lingots actually for? I have more than enough to buy everything in the shop (all like three things) a hundred times if I wanted to. I don't really understand why DL makes them seem like a commodity.
The lingots are to buy things in the shop (special lessons, streak freeze, streak wager, and timed practice, as well as on mobile you can get some costumes for Duo) but tbh the shop is bland and a waste of time and space for what it's worth. Just my opinion and my two cents.
And then when I get multiple things wrong, the messages still come up but it always things like "Welp, you're trying!" and "At least you're learning!" Wow, thanks, Duo, you're wonderful at encouraging me, kicking me while I'm down.
When it makes me write a phrase like "yo no comprendo mucho español" I'm always like, "are you trying to tell me something, Duo?"
Hate this, hate that, cmon now. Ignore it, it's not all about you. The popups keep many others happy. And I'm quite happy with Owl Pacino, whoooah!
You know, we're not asking to get rid of them entirely, just to let us disable them if we find them too distracting. Then you can still enjoy them as much as you like and we would be able to enjoy stress-free lessons. I personally can't ignore something that hits me in the face when I need to concentrate so these messages are affecting my studies very negatively.
"...You know, we're not asking to get rid of them entirely, just to let us disable them if we find them too distracting..."
I wonder why Duolingo won't do this and keep everyone happy?
Maybe because then they couldn't measure retention rates with an unbiased sample.
why did this dude get downvoted for speaking the truth and making a legit useful suggestion?
Because some people disagree and they have no points to argue with, so down the vote goes.
Its really a lot like voting, ah how the weak get power, its truly amazing.
I don't give lingots away often, but the shop doesn't have anything too amazing in it, so here's one.
I remember having them around some time ago. Then they just disappeared. Maybe, if we just close our eyes and make a wish, they will vanish again.
I like them, but I can see how since they aren't actually prompted by anything of significance, they'd get tiresome.
I want to spend my lingots to instead receive passive aggressive and threatening messages from the owl that gradually escalate over time.
That would actually make the currency worth something.
...why can't you just ignore them? I know some younger learners that light up when they see those messages. The messages inspire them to keep doing Duolingo. Just deal with it for the few seconds that they pop up
I'm pretty certain this thread is talking about the messages on web (where this was added only very recently), not in the app (where it was added a long time ago).
The reason you can't ignore them on web is because it stays on the screen permanently until you acknowledge you've seen it by clicking the "continue" button. If you ignore it on web, then the lesson will never move on to the next exercise. You'll be stuck on the screen with the owl for eternity if you ignore it. XD
It's not like in the app where it only pops up for about two seconds and automatically disappears quickly on its own. If they had implemented it this way on web too, then people might not have minded quite so much.
I'm guessing you do Duolingo on the mobile apps rather than using the website to do it?
This so true. I hadn't used Duolingo for about five years, and when I became active again, I immediately started getting 50 emails a day, all of them like " You are doing great" or "You are very fluent in Hindi" when in reality, I hadn't gotten a single answer correct for about 5 lessons. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!!!!!!!!!
What I like is the ability to use this service at a rapid fire pace. When I used to use Rosetta Stone it took too long to load pages between questions. The owl is another enter button that I need to press when doing problems quickly. What they could do is place it in some of the empty space below the questions and include accuracy statistics.
I was working today, and when that dang blasted owl showed up it completely broke my concentration
You are obviously quite accomplished in French. I'm fairly new to Duo Lingo, but I do like Duo - he's cute and I don't see enough encouragements, yet. It's usually 'pay attention to the accents!!' or it's not 'au' but 'a la' (with the grave accent on a, of course).
I feel like the messages can be helpful for some more than others. I find it helpful to have those just as a reminder, I also feel like its what makes Duolingo Duolingo.
I kinda like the little owl popping up on the screen. But I certainly haven't been on here as long as you. I can see how it could get old!
personally i think they are really cute and break up the learning a little for me, however it is your own opinon and i totally understand what you are saying too :)
You can disable them in settings. (at least on smartphones) That's what I've done. Go into settings > General > Motivational messages -and turn the slider to off. There you go. Solved the problem without the need for any lingots :)
The problem is that there is no such option on the web. Otherwise there wouldn't be hundreds of complains here.
I don't understand it... i have no problem with it :D Maybe my brain totally ignore it or like this. I more concentrate on what i learned, and what i can more learn. ;)
Well, when I get a few in a row wrong I can count on duo to tell me not to give up.
idk... for me, Duo is the embodiment, the face of all the people who worked so hard to make this app a reality. That in itself is encouragement to remind me how lucky I am.
I understand, but it does encourage some people. So try to ignore it and try to have a good day in spite of it. Duolingo has a lot of imperfections, but it has a lot going for it also. Try to see the good and overlook little quirky things if possible is my advice to you and myself too because I also get irritated with Duolingo daily over something.
I think the reaction would be nothing if the motivational feature was built in on day one. Yet it was added to the Andriod App before the negative feedback to this led to an opt out being added. Now it has been added to the mobile web version without an opt out.
Why make something as good as the Duolingo learning experience better for some, worse for others without providing a toggle to keep both camps happy?
Lol I understand you mate, it would be more useful if they can give out some rewards for completing a number of lessons. But having those messages does not hurt at all by the way, maybe it can make someone else more encouraged but just not you or some others
I love that owl and she (he?) motivates me... I don't want mine to fly off into the ether. Perhaps a nice feature would be to be able to choose your encouraging animal for those who don't enjoy green owls, and one choice could be nothingness - no encourager. The idea from SleepyCat4 about having this in the language of study would be very sweet also.
Try to get used to them. They're probably having a positive effect on your learning that you're not perceptibly aware of.
Ah, yes. They help improve your skills on insulting Duo in other languages.
I'm not sure I can help much, maybeee just block their email or?.. But I know that i can help with ur lingots :)
I've not been able to check; though a contributor upthread reported that the opt out was gone from Android?
Nancy I'm delighted the motivational messages work for you.
What of those who only find these a nuisance? Why can't they be allowed to opt out?
It's impossible to create an app to fit everyone's needs, probably they are busy trying to fix bugs, create quality content, open new languages and so on, I believe there are other priorities for Duo's developers.
"It's impossible to create an app to fit everyone's needs"
This is taking an App that functions and slowing it down whilst annoying a proportion of the user base.
That said I know others are delighted though it's a shame Duolingo 'forgot' the opt out that was already deployed in their Android flavor.
It's true, reminders have saved me quite some times from losing my streak!
I was thinking the same, people get upset for such vain reasons, there are a lot of moaners in here! We should focus on the positive and be thankful that Duo let's most of us learn for free. At least you as a plus member would be more entitled to complain than OP.
The OP is free to ask for something as simple as an option to turn off the motivational messages, even though you all see it as something insignificant.
i don't mind the one with the owl and a blank page. i see it as a time to pause and reflect on the lesson.
You used to be able to turn it off. Check under settings. I thought about it but he's cute so I changed my mind. I like to know when I've gotten 10 or more I a row correct :)
I don't think this pop up at 10 always holds ime. EDIT A pop up at 5 only in a 17/17 lesson just now.
Still we're all different - which is kind of the point.
This argument and the one about movement in icons can be seen as part of the never ending battle between the authoritarians and the libertarians in our community.
I would suggest this also covers the arguments over '-5 and die' and leagues.
I'll never understand why people react so negatively to positive messages XD I think people would be much happier if they just accepted the nice things in life instead of finding something to complain about in every little thing.
Divvivia we are not all the same; we all have different ages and are from different cultures. Why the surprise when others, on finding their learning experience spoilt by what they see as a detrimental a change, complain about it? Duolingo should have acted with sensitivity and built in an 'opt out' and kept more students on side.
I would give you a lingot, but as you're trying to get rid of them, I won't. If anybody is trying to get rid of lingots, you can give them to me. I don't mind having extra and nothing to spend it on.
Haha I have nearly reached a thousand lingots myself (and have just given you one.....I LOVE that you've been given so many lingots for this post by the way ). I've bought my three suits for Duo and my extra lessons...what now?! We need more things to spend our precious jewels on please!!!
I know that they are programmed in but I like them. I still appreciate them.
There was (is?) on Android; I tried to find one on web but it seems there isn't one (at least not yet)
Not sure. Someone posted something about settings general though these don't exist on mobile web.
Maybe you need to update your app. I don't know if it's a recently added feature but it's definitely there now for mobiles.
Thanks for replying. I use mobile web day to day and the Android App only occasionally when out on the road. Last I looked there was an option to hide motivational messages on that platform.
I was somewhat thrown by another poster's claim that the option was removed from Android. So in the interests of science I'll check now - Yes there is a Motivational messages toggle under Profile/Settings/General.
turn them off in the settings. under general "display motivational messages" Same with the sound effects!
There are so many things that people are willing to spend lingots on that Duolingo silently refuses to add. For example, a dark theme would literally take about 10 minutes to add (how hard can it really be to change the CSS a little if a certain theme is enabled? Wouldn't it be similar to the different Duos that can be purchased?).
What about Tips & Notes for all courses on the apps? Not much effort would be needed to add those for courses that already have them, and the lack of them severely reduces the effectiveness of Duolingo.
I will chuck in another thousand for the fund. It is almost as annoying as the cartoon interface has become. But the Duo team will simply ignore all feedback and continue to inflict more and more senseless frills on it's users. Lingots, crowns, annoying owls, this level, and that. Best to ignore it, they won't change.
Thank you all for the part of this discussion about things to spend lingots on. Most fun I've had all week. :D
I know there's a setting for this on mobile because I turned it off but idk what to do about this on PC. Hope this helps!
If you are on a laptop or computer, it is possible to turn off the option “motivational messages” in settings. At least, I remember seeing the option last time I was in settings.
I believe you're talking about the settings for notification emails, which is something completely different to what this thread is talking about.
What this thread is talking about: the motivational messages screen feature that was recently added to the website, where the website now interrupts lessons a few times a day just to display this screen.
What this screen looks like: the Duolingo owl, a speech bubble containing a motivational message, and a "continue" button that you now have to press an additional time to get to the next exercise in the lesson.
Only the Android app has been given a setting letting the user choose whether to have these motivational message pop-ups. The website (and reportedly the iOS app) doesn't have any setting to disable it.