https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MobiuS_360

Any tips for an absolute beginner?

Question, any Russian speakers or learners around who can maybe give me a few tips in the beginning stages and how to start comprehending and starting basic sentence/conversation ? It's a language I've wanted to learn for a while but have always been discouraged from it. I'm currently looking into local classes though.

There's an internship in 3 years I plan on applying for, which requires language knowledge, Russian being one of their most desired.

-MobiuS

August 8, 2019

36 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Vetyr_Cylni

Sure! Im not fluent, but close enought.

  1. There is a different alphabet, try to watch youtube videos on it. Some letters look like english letters, but are pronounced differently. For example: "x" is pronounced like the letter h, "c" is never hard like k.

  2. Once you learn the alphabet, learn to recognise the letters in their handwritten form. Many of them are quite different. Its not that hard thought.

  3. Russian Grammar is more free, meaning the order of the words can we changed around.

  4. No articles! Unlike in languages like English and Spanish, Russian doesnt have any articles. So you wont have to learn the words for a, an, or the.

  5. Dont get discouraged! Russian is one of the most spoken languages on the internet, so it wont be too hard to find someone to practice with. It would be even better if you can find someone to talk to, one on one!

  6. Russian Spelling. Russian is very phonetical, unlike English, where you dont always spell a word by how it sounds. In Russian once you hear a word the spelling wont be that far from what you heard.

  7. The "o" can sound like an a, but that depends on wether or not the syllable is stressed.

  8. Read/watch things that you enjoy!

  9. Russian is close to other Slavic languages, so if you ever choose to learn a different related language after knowing Russian, you will already know some of the words!

Search the Russian forums on here as well, you can find lots more tips! https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/13955228

One question, why do I feel as if my grammar is off? I feel like I'm making a lot of mistakes.

August 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LICA98

"x" is not pronounced like the English h, rather like Scottish loch or Spanish José (it's a sound that doesn't really exist in English)

Russian also isn't "very phonetical" but it's definitely more phonetical than English

August 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Vetyr_Cylni

Yeah, true! Thanks!

August 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Royal1223

No, it's very phonetical.

August 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mortificator

Not very. Less than German or Spanish. Many poor Russian children suffer at school. :)

August 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MobiuS_360

Thank you Vetyr_Cylni! You're advice is great, I do see Russian speakers all the time on the internet, and always try and see if I can sound out some of the words XD

But all I know so far really is да у привет from my few Duolingo lessons. I'll eventually start looking online for more serious lessons, and like I said in my post I'm searching for local courses as well. The only problem is the closest Russian class is 30 mins away from me, so I'm not sure if I want to make the commitment yet.

I'll definitely also look into YouTube videos and video resources.

I saw your comment LICA98, thanks for the corrections, and I see you have both Polish and Russian in your language flag list. How similar would you say they are and which one is easier in your opinion?

-MobiuS

August 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Vetyr_Cylni

Glad I could help! Im learning Spanish mostly throught the internet, although I have a friend who speaks Spanish. I could make a vocab list, if it helps. Maybe buy a book on Russian. Another thing that might help, is learning english on doulingo throught Russian. Just set your language to Russian and learn english. Im doing it for Spanish, it can boost your skills if you are forced to read in Russian. Might not work well if you cant read Russian yet. Maybe try making a personal vocab list, doing it in a notebook will let you write it and develop written memory. Also practice forming sentences.

August 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MobiuS_360

You're absolutely right! I used to keep a French notebook that I forgot about, maybe I'll start using a Russian one as well. Thanks for reminding me ahaha

Good luck with Spanish, it's a beautiful language, and thanks again for the tips!

-MobiuS

August 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Vetyr_Cylni

Спасиба! Thanks! Welcome!

August 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mortificator

How similar would you say they are

No one Russian person won't understand a word in Polish. Even thought both languages have Slavis roots.

August 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Vetyr_Cylni

I can read polish and understand words here and there, certain words, like the word for apple, and I, are really close. Polish is an Western Slavic language while Russian is Eastern Slavic, so they are different. I can understand some polish. Written mostly, not much for spoken, but that depends.

August 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Royal1223

They say dzcevcenka for 'girl' while Russians say 'devushka'.

August 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Vetyr_Cylni

ja for i is pretymuch same, jablka and jablaka, niet and net, dont know what mortificator is talking about. Maybe he just saw the written language and made an assumption.

August 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mortificator

Maybe he just saw the written language and made an assumption.

If you hear or read Polish you won't understand even 10%. Do you want to bet? :)

August 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/olga248831

dzcevcenka - for me is девчонка -mischievous little girl :) and not 'devushka - young lady

August 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mirokha

Polish is an Eastern Slavic language while Russian is Western Slavic

Quite the opposite. Guess you mistyped. :)

August 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Vetyr_Cylni

Oops! Thanks for pointing that out!

August 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LICA98

that's not true, even before I started learning Polish I could understand around 30%-40% of the written language

August 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mortificator

Because you know many other languages. ;) You can understand 30% of words but 0% of sentences.

August 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mortificator

причём тут вообще английский и французский, они друг от друга гораздо сильнее отличаются

Тем не менее, я понял половину слов. :) Около четверти английских слов - французские. А ещё четверть - латинские, которые присутствуют в обоих языках.

August 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/olga248831

Excusez moi, mais c'est difficile à assimiler cette phrase entierement. J'agrée avec Mortificator. - Excuse me, it's difficult to assimilate this phrase entirely. I agree with Mortificator. Ну, что здесь сложно понять? Не правда ли :)

August 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mortificator

Мужчина ест яблоко и пьёт воду Mężczyzna je jabłko i pije wodę

yeah it's totally not possible to understand

А так? :) "Мэжчи знае ябко и пьеводэ"

August 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/olga248831

Знает что?!

August 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LICA98

Мужчина ест яблоко и пьёт воду
Mężczyzna je jabłko i pije wodę

yeah it's totally not possible to understand

August 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/olga248831

So everyone should understand this phrase in French without using google translator, as many words are similar to English :)

Excusez moi, mais c'est difficile à assimiler cette phrase entierement. J'agrée avec Mortificator.

P.S I do not speak Polish but Russian yes. So your sentence without your translation I will have understood like that: Mężczyzna - may be the doctor or the medecine;

je - ? may be advise

jabłko - the apple and may be "pije wodę" drink water

August 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LICA98

а причём тут вообще английский и французский, они друг от друга гораздо сильнее отличаются

вам непонятны предложения типа "dziewczynka je jabłko" или "mama czyta gazetę"? если понятны то значит всё-таки не 0% можно понять как сказал mortificator

August 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/olga248831

В английском и во французком огромное количество похожих слов, как в примере, который я привела, но это не значит, что точный смысл фразы будет понятен. Так и с польским, украинским и русским. Каждый язык имеет свои нюансы, даже , кажующиеся похожими слова имеют другой смысл и от этого меняется смысл фразы. Как Mężczyzna в написании для меня больше похоже на "медицина", чем на " мужчина" - значит значение фразы уже не верно. Теперь я знаю, что je- это есть, я пыталась говорить с поляками, которые не говорили по-русски, в результате мы остановились на английском, т.к мы друг друга не понимали. :)

August 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mortificator

olga248831

Это был хороший пример. :) Хоть я и понял общий смысл, но не стал экспертом по французскому языку. Так же, как по немецкому и итальянскому. Владея двумя родными языками - русским и украинским - я, тем не менее плохо понимаю не только польский, особенно устный, но даже белорусский. Что уж говорить о чешском или болгарском?...

August 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LICA98

Около четверти английских слов - французские. А ещё четверть - латинские, которые присутствуют в обоих языках

а в русском и польском аж 77% но тем не менее тебе не понятно почему-то

August 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mortificator

в русском и польском аж 77% но тем не менее тебе не понятно почему-то

Я даже белорусскую речь (86%!) понимаю с трудом. :) Касательно польского - иногда я на слух понимаю целые предложения. Чтение требует другой перекодировки. Вчера пару минут обдумывал польский анекдот из 5 предложений... :)

Кстати, в Вашей табличке сходство между английским и французским составляем 27%, а между английским и русским - 24%. Как думаете, почему? :) А теперь выбросьте эти 24 процента из 77.

BTW https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D0%A1%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%B0

August 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/olga248831

At first begin to learn the alphabet, this is the first thing that Russian children learn at school. Read this topic https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/33248708 and you will find other sources that can be useful. Good luck.

August 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MobiuS_360

Thank you so much!!!

-MobiuS

August 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/thefifthjudge

More on the "learner" end of things, but the biggest tip I always give for understanding vocab is to check words on Wiktionary. Being one who has rarely studied less than two languages at a time, Wiktionary has enabled me to quickly have reliable vocabulary translations, look at word etymologies to help me link them to each other, and view verb conjugations (and in Russian's case, noun declensions as well). Happy studying!

August 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MobiuS_360

Trying it out now! I've also been looking at alphabet lessons on YouTube, the Russian alphabet is actually really easy.

-MobiuS

August 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Yehor__

Hey, I'm a native speaker, so, if you have any questions or problems while learning Russian I am more than happy to help you

August 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MobiuS_360

Thank you, I'll keep it in mind!

-MobiuS

August 8, 2019
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