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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MurielDE

Hearing "tun" between words

Not sure if it is in my ears or in the lady teacher's pronunciation, but when she reads aloud any length of text, I keep hearing "tun" between words, as if it were a way to link words when you speak fast. The "tun" disappears when she speaks slowly word by word. It's never written, as far as I can tell. What do you think? Is it just me or does it exist?

August 15, 2019

7 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/aphmonica

it may be the feminine nouns in nominative case. they are used with dammetain and you get a tun sound at the and of the word. also in adjective clause you use tun.

August 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MurielDE

I see - it is not written though... Thanks for your reply. At least I know I am not just hearing things.

August 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/nizzle1931

From what I understand, this "tun" sound comes from the Tanwin/Nunation/Double Vowel grammatical concept. It is used to indicate the indefinite article but is not usually not written. I wish Duo would explain it early on in the lessons and show the Tanwin just so learners can understand why, where and how to use this grammatical tool. I understand there is a lot to take in (new alphabet, new sounds, new grammar) when beginning to learn Arabic but I feel this should be addressed early on, even to simple degree at first.

August 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MurielDE

Wow ! Thank you! That is why..! As long as I know that I am not crazy and there was a rationale behind that sound, I will look forward to learning more eventually.

August 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/John222384

I thought it was a dialectic to smooth out the sound between words - it doesn't appear to have any reason or consistency and I've learned to ignore it.

August 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LantasticO

No it is in fact the "Tanween" as described by user nizzle1931 earlier. Mostly used in speech to denote an indefinite noun (one that is not preceeded by Al/El-equivalent of "the").

Example:

The dog --> Al-Kalb

dog --> kalbon (the "on" sound here is pronounced in arabic but not written so the word stays the same)

It's not directly written but denoted by adding a diacritical mark to the letter. Something similar to the accent marks in other languages (think of Umlauts in German). Although it can be skipped in writing, I find many people do write it even in hand writing.

August 21, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/daal39
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It seems to me that if it is an option to write these extra sounds, it would be great if they were written in the course as a crutch so to speak. Reading Arabic is already pretty hard if one has no previous background, and these unwritten sounds are quite a stumbling block. One option would be to remove them at higher crown levels, when the learners have a better grip on the Arabic alphabet.

August 24, 2019
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