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"Num urbs Novum Eboracum in California est?"
Translation:Surely the city of New York is not in California?
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Why refuse "New York city is not in California, is it?", which would expect negative answer as well?
Agreed. I had to listen to this simple sentence at least three times to get it into my head, because the slow-and-bad-ly-pro-nounced-and-bad-ly-timed audio was so offputting
The new audio for this one sounds like he's saying "orcs" instead of "urbs."
If this is translated as 'the city OF New York' then should New York instead be in the genitive?
Novum Eboracum is in the nominative because it is an appositive elaborating on the word urbs. The English use of "of" isn't possessive (genitive in Latin) but rather a shortening of "by the name of."
I'm not a native speaker but saying "in the city New York" (city [called] New York) maybe sounds like a bad English. Maybe "New York city" could be accepted. In Latin you would say it like this - in nominatives.
Urbs novum eboracum. Urbs is first therefore it is "the city, new york." That's my monkey explination at least
I don't know about the grammar etc, but it SOUNDS like he says 'Novi Eboraci' - which is what I typed :(
The accent is very anglosaxon so difficults comprehesion. You may not appreciate that nuance, but sounds like barbarians speaking Latin. The spoken parts should be done by either Spanish or Italian people, even Portuguese people, who are related phonetically and grammatically to Latin. However I don't want to wrest merit to you, guys. You did outstandingly very well. Congrats!
When you want to make a yes/no question you use "estne" instead of "est" in the beginning of the sentence. Moreover the "-ne" part indicates a question, so you also need to use "suntne" instead of "sunt" in that context
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1) "Surely New York is not a city in California", 2) "Surely New York city is not in California" & 3) "Surely the city of New York is not in California" are all accepted. 2 & 3 mean slightly different, but 1 has a very different meaning.
The sentence doesn't have 'non' (no, not). Then how is the answer- surely the City of new york is not in California.
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Because when a sentence begins with Num it means the speaker is expecting the answer to be negative. It does not need the negative non but you need to translate it as such. This is explained in the tips section. I'd recommend looking over it to help you understand it better :)
I'm pretty sure New York didn't exist when Latin was a current language. I thought I was taking an ancient Latin course.
It's an ancient language course, but it's whimsical. So they have some modern location names and lots of sentences about drunk, angry parrots. (The extra joke is that York (in Britain) was called Eboracum when it was part of the Roman Empire.)
I see absolutely no reason why it would mark "... New York city... " wrong. Any clue?
It should be a question also in english, with the right position of is before ny
Where is the 'not' coming in, is it from the 'num'. I translated as 'Surely the city of New York is in California', but it is not taking it.
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"Surely New York city is not in California" was rejected the first time. I copy pasted and did it again at the end and then it was accepted. Bit strange.
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Hello,
"Californiae" would be the locative, which exists only for names of cities and small islands (plus a handful of common nouns like "domus"). Since "California" is neither one nor the other but the name of a state, you can not use locative case for that word.
Instead, since you are talking about a place where the "action" is taking place without movement involved, you use the following construction: preposition "in" + noun in the ablative case.
Why do we sometimes say eboraci and sometimes Eboracum please . I know they are singular or plural but what defines it ,? Is it the subject or the context ?
Novi Eboraci means "in New York" whilst Novum Eboracum just means "New York" :)
im so confused, it says "type what you hear" and I am hearing the Latin phrase but every time I type it, it says it's wrong. It wants me to type the translation which contradicts "type what you hear".
So if someone says this to me, do i answer "No" because NY is not in Calif., or do i answer "Yes" because the speaker is correct in saying NY is not in Calif.?
I think "is the city of New York in California?" is an alright translation
I believe that would be "Estne urbs Novum Eboracum in California est?" because your question allows a yes/no answer without any presumption of a negative answer.
The "correct" answer given - "Surely the city of New York is not in California?" would require 'New York' to be in genitive case, i.e. 'Novi Eboraci'. As it is, I translated "urbs Novum Eboracum" as being nouns in apposition, i.e 'the city, New York, ... ' .
...the city, New York,... should be accepted, so long as everything around it is correct. If you report it the course creators can fix it.
Fair enough. How do you 'report' a possible new answer long after you have completed the lesson? (I'm new to Duo:)
By retaking the lesson and making the same answer.
BTW I can't see any reason for the genitive.
