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"Salve, Marce."

Translation:Hello, Marcus.

August 27, 2019



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Why salve and not salvete?


Salve is for addressing one person (Marcus in this case) and salvete is for a group.


I guess this will come up over and over again, but the pronunciation of v is different between classical (i.e. reconstructed) and ecclesiastical (Catholic, continued beyond the fall of the Roman Empire up until the present day). Classical uses a "w" sound, ecclesiastical uses a "v" sound.


Okay so I understand there is some sort of inflection on the name Marcus. This also explains why the team is not inputting anglicized names as acceptable solutions. I hope we will eventually get some tips and notes soon for the inflections. At any rate I am so grateful they got this course up and running!


Marce is in the vocative case. It is used for direct address. With names ending in "us", the vocative ending is "e". So, for example, Titus becomes Tite, Quintus becomes Quinte, etc.


Yes, and a few are even stranger, like Gaius becoming Gai


"Et tu, Brute?"

Brutus, in the vocative case is "Brute."


The inflection is the vocative case. We're talking to Marcus, and since his name is masculine (ending in -us), it changes to Marce in the vocative. :)

Volgav vitsenanieff nivya kevach varatsach.


Why Salvete would be wrong?


Salve is for greeting one person. Salvete is for a group.

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Expanding on Daniel's explanation, this is a verb, "salvere", which means "to be in good health".
"Salve" and "salvete" are the imperative forms, singular and plural respectively.



So i answered with marce, and for it wrong? I don't understand...


Is this the vocative case?


Marce is Vocative, yes.


So, since c is pronounced as k before e, the course uses the classic pronunciation (in Mediaeval Latin it would be "ts").

Shouldn't the l sound be pronounced like the l in modern German or Italian (or like the English one in "leaf, believe")?


I believe C is always pronounced like K in classical Latin.


Yes, with a Classical pronunciation it will always be a K sound.


Which other standard pronunciation is there besides classic?


Yes, Caesar was "kesar" or (earlier) "kaisar", not "sezar", "chezar" etc.


tshezar is the ecclesiastical pronunciation. Which one is the more correct between ecclesiastical and classical: things are not so clear that many people say, it's a real debate.

I would say for instance, old French did pronounce the "c" as "tsh". Where did it come? And the Italian pronunciation. So, it's really not so clear. There are some hints in a direction, and some hints in the other one.


The salve sounds fine to me.


So would Optimus Prime's name properly be Optimus Primus, with Optime Prime being his name in the vocative.


It should be "Optimus Primus" in Latin, so "Prime" is surely in English.


I just read on one of the other exercises that you are NOT translating names here, so that time (putting in alternatives for names) can be spent on getting this out of Beta, instead. Yet here I am forced to translate the name Marce into Marcus, or it's marked wrong.

I did report this, but am I wrong on this?


His name is Marcus. When you call him directly, you say Marce!. That isn't translating his name, but declining it according to use.

I see Marcus - video Marcum

I give it to Marcus - Do Marco

All nouns decline, including names.


Names decline? Wow...

Hmm... well, I had nothing in the lessons to that point to help me notice that. Nor any idea as yet how one declines such things.

Just sayin'

Thank you


that is true although i think they want you to analyze and memorize "in this case then this, in that then that" if you want a lesson on declensions i think there are charts and tools online but idk; i'm taking this for school (online bc of coronavirus) so i have a teacher most of the time so i'm not sure.

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Of course there are online resources.

Here is a plain-English overview of what the cases are and how they work:
Latin cases, in English

Here are the noun and adjective declension charts:
declensions 1-3
declensions 4&5

Adjectives must agree in gender, number, and case with the nouns they modify, but they have their own declensions. Sometimes you get lucky and the adjective just happens to follow the same declension as the noun, but that is not a guarantee.

For good measure, here are the verb conjugation charts:
1st Conjugation
2nd Conjugation
3rd Conjugation
3rd i-stem Conjugation
4th Conjugation


"Marce" isn't a translation of Marcus, it's the vocative case of Marcus. Latin has a declension, but English hasn't (it has only the objective case of pronouns). The Latin declension has six cases. All nouns, including personal/proper names, change and acquire different endings in Latin depending on the role they play in the sentence. I advise you to read the grammar of the skill in the browser version of Duo before starting the lesson and to read the comments in the discussion before asking your question.


Woof... I get the feeling that Latin is going make German seem easy.

As for grammar... I'd love to read some, but where is such a thing? People keep (in these forums) referring to "grammar articles" and other features in the browser version. I only use the browser; I don't like apps when a browser will do as well. But... grammar? Where? I see no tips, no grammar articles, no broken eggs... none of the things folks keep suggesting should show up for me.

Perhaps I'm an idiot and it's right in front of me?


when do we use salvete and salve ?


You use salvete when you are referring to more than one person, such as "Hi (group of people)". Salve is the singular.


Why is "Salvete, Marce" wrong?

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Because Marcus is only one person.

Salve, Marce!
Salvete, Marce et Stephane!


Oh! I get it now. Thank you!!


Why does it say wrong just for forgetting to put the comma? Punctuation never got me a wrong before?!

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The correction algorithm does not look at punctuation. If we knew your full exact answer, letter-for-letter, we could help you see the real reason it marked you wrong.


Marce o Marcus? Is the some name in the two languages.


I put "Hello Marce"


Latin names change ending depending on their role in the sentence. But, in the end, his name is still Marcus.


It saunds like "Salve, Marque!"


I listened to both audios for this exercise and they are both saying marce with a hard C and a voiced e at the end. Did you not hear the e?


I know the translation is 1=1 but, they really won't accept "Marce" in English? It has to be "Marcus"?


Names change based on what they do in the sentence, Marcus, Marci, Marco, Marcum, but they are always returned to Marcus in English.


So, wouldn't it be Marcus cause you're only talking to one person?


Marce is still singular. This is the vocative form of Marcus, for talking directly to him.


i don't understand why you have to translate the names into english? you don't translate peoples given names you just call them what they're already named


You aren't translating the name into English. His name (in Latin) is Marcus. When we call his name, we use the vocative form Marce, but his name is still Marcus.


Isn't Salve referring to multiple people?


No, salve isn't, salvete is plural.


I think that Marc should be accepted


From the Tips & Notes in Basics 1: "A little convention: we will not accept translations of names as alternatives in this course. Marcus's name is Marcus, not Mark, and Stephanus is not Stephen or Steven."


Where are these legendary "tips and notes?" I keep hearing about such and can never find them. Are they only in the tablet/app version or something?

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They're available on both the website and the app, although it used to be exclusively on the website. It used to be represented with a lightbulb. Now it's the word "tips".


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