XD I'm looking forward to the discussions on this one! I know enough people are bothered by "Nueva York" in the Spanish course and "Novi Eboraci" kind of adds an extra level of fun! ;)
Do you imagine the New York song in latin? ~Nova Eboraci Nova Eboraci~
I don't understand why they are bothered, Nueva York, it's beautiful.
Whats the break down of the name new York. New is pretty obvious. Whats the connection to York?
The name of the town York actually comes from the Latin word Eborācum through a complex series of changes. The Latin word itself comes from the local Celtic word for the area.
Eborācum, 2nd declension: nom. Eborācum, gen. Eborācī, dat. Eborācō.
And in case anyone's interested, the local Celtic (Brittonic) word was Eborākom or Eburākon. This is probably eburos "yew tree" + -ākon/m "place of, belonging to", or the intial element could be Eburos a Celtic personal name.
Although modern Brittonic languages (Welsh, Cornish, Breton) have lost their case endings, Common Brittonic (CB) had plenty, like Latin. You can see similarities between the Latin and CB endings:
Latin: nom. Eborācum, gen. Eborācī, dat. Eborācō
CB: nom. Eborākom, gen. Eborākī, dat. Eborākūi
Proto-Celtic eburos (yew) + -ākos (-ock) -> Eborākom
Old English folk-etymological alteration of Eboracum, based on eofor (boar) + wīc (village) -> Eoforwīċ
Old Norse Jór(ví)k
Middle English York, Ȝork
New York (city) was New Amsterdam in the area of New Netherlands and was renamed in 1664 when it was taken from the Dutch.
The original York got its name by a series of changes over many centuries. There were plenty of Vikings in York (Jorvik) but not many Dutch.
New York didn't exist when Latin developed so the name has been latinised more recently to make it sound good in Latin lessons.
Probably the latin name of York (in England) when it was founded, I guess.
Yes, I went to university in York, and it was Eboracum during the Roman conquest.
I don't know for sure, but since the Romans had a presence in Britain (Britannia), I guess it is probably the Latin name of the English city later called York.
Perhaps York in England? Just like between New Zealand and Zealand in the Netherlands
Good question. I wonder the same and found this on Internet: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eboracum?wprov=sfla1
Eboracum was the name of what today is York in UK.
Okay, I have just found out. Eboracum was the Roman's largest town in northern Britain apparently meaning 'Yew' tree place, later etymology suggests uses concomitant with the words for 'ivy' and also 'ivory' -almost too interesting to be useful, but for what it's worth, from Wikipedia.
Imin ancient Greek it is 'Εβόρακον for York. But it is the ancient name. It is Υόρκη in Modern Greek. So I am not sure it is right Eborakum in a modern view of Latin
Is Novi Eboraci in locative case? So -um will change into -i in locative?
Sorry, my initial answer was wrong. It is locative, like the "domi" example earlier.
From Lewis and Short Lexicon via the Perseus Project: Eborācum , i, n., I.the capital of the Brigantes in Britain, now York, Eutr. 8, 19; Inscr. Orell. 190 al.
Two things here; yes this could be considered the Roman equivalent of York, hence Novum Eboracum for New York.
However, I'm a lot more concerned with the use of the genitive here to denote location. I'm no Cicero, but I don't think this is very good use of Latin inflection.