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- "Tu non es pater."
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The whole point of these discussions is to make languages fun. I've been studying them for my entire life and have a few under my belt. If they hadn't have been taught in a fun environment, I wouldn't have bothered. Deleting comments makes this not fun. Go and see the Danish or the German module forums for examples. A lot of people will be turned off, which is a shame as I've always wanted to learn Latin.
What she tells you after you abdicate the empire to what you thought was your oldest son.
I heard this sentence once. I had no idea my reaction was the same as others until I found this thread.
How would you say "You are not a father"; "You are no father" in Latin?
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I translated "Tu non es pater" as "You are not a father" and it was accepted. Latin does not have the definite or the indefinite article. Most of these sentences can be translated either way.
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Latin contains articles, but are not used in the same method as modern languages. If it did not have any articles, the translation of "Winnie the Poo" would not be "Winnie Ille Pu." The articles specify "this one" or "that one" as opposed to "the" or "an."
In Finnish we don't have articles either so I can say that it doesn't really cause any problems like you might think. If we would want to say that you are not someone's father in particular, we would just clarify who's father, but without clarification it works as a general statement.
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There are many languages without articles. They either clarify in a different way or or becomes clear in context
The theatrical pronunciation here is fun, sure. However, the "r" in "pater" should be audibly pronounced as a rolled tongue "r". It has been cut off a bit
Unless you're from the Northeast of England, this declension has been outdated for quite some centuries now. Even then, it is only part of a dialect and Duo is always based on the standard variety of a language.
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it should be accepted IMHO, as this course itself demonstrates that there is no such thing as an outdated language
"Thou" is the informal second person pronoun and was considered disrespectful in all but the most familiar settings. The difference is similar to the tu-vos distinction in Spanish. I use EmodE (early modern English) for a writing project and it really bugs me when the language is butchered in popular media. sigh What Pablo said.
You're nearly right, it would be; Luke, ego sum pater tui.
Although that's my fault for trying to correct someone at 3am in the first place.
Is it possible to eliminate the "Tu" somehow? "es" is 2nd Pers. Sg. I think, so maybe something along the lines of just: "Non es pater."?
Technically, yes, but the sentence would lose the wonderful dramatic emphasis that the audio implies.
For real, the quality of the audio for this course is quite poor, especially considering the other courses on this site. And this one is no exception. But the delivery! Man i hope when they get around to update the audio in the next 50 years or so, the voice actress they have mimics this delivery
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Given the audio is all recorded by volunteers and not by an voice simulation program, I think the fact it contains audio at all is a bonus.
It's a dead language and it has quite a few speakers, actually i feel kinda blessed for this complement to my textbooks... You know, in my country we have no Latin teachers at all
I don't think that it is dead. Its just changed. Changed into Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Catalan, Romanian, and French.
That doesn't imply that it's not dead though. With the same logic you could argue the Australopithecus Africanus is still alive as it has evolved into the members of the homo genus and eventually into modern humans.
"You haven't experienced Strindberg until you have heard him in the original Latin."
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Father_%28Strindberg_play%29)
The crowd at the forum goes nuts as Ieremus Spqringus reveals the findings of the oracle.
Yeah, they still have a long way to go. But remember this course is still in beta phase.
I think the problem with the pronunciations is that they're all native English speaker, so the accent is very strong. Maybe they should seek some native Romance language speakers to do it.
Btw, I'd definitely volunteer. I mean no offense to anyone, but my pronunciation is certainly better than what I've been hearing here.
I came here to see comments about the line delivery, I am not disappointed.
