"The students study the Latin language in school."
Translation:Discipulae in ludo linguae Latinae student.
I can't even find "disculpae" on a declension paradigm.
So, I'm puzzled, too. I'm new to Latin. I'm sure there's something I'm missing. But ...
Case: Singular, Plural
Nominative: Discipulus, Discipuli
Genitive: Discipuli, Discipulorum
Dative: Discipulo, Discipulis
Accusative: Discipulum, Discipulos
Ablative: Discipulo, Discipulis
Vocative: Discipule, Discipuli
Hey, I'm glad you're getting started and sorry for your confusion and frustration. Many words in Latin have a masculine and feminine version. In this case Discipulus refers to a male student, while Discipula refers to a female one. Discipula follows the first declension. Similar words are Magister and Magistra, teacher. Amicus and Amica, friend. As well as many others. This usually happens with First and Second declension nouns. If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
Those are masculine so they are all broken down in 2nd declension. Ae in discipulae is plural nominative of 1st declension so therefore its feminine. So do a 1st declension breakdown with the stem in 1st and it'll be easier. So discipulae in this case is A/The/Female students.
Sorry, I'm a bit rude, but this lesson is killing. This course is pretending to by a system for teaching Latin.
But how it could be a system, when after passing 3 courses I got questions about random grammatical cases?
We were studying accusative and I still know nominative and now WOW WOW hey mister student try to guess the DATIVE endings for this example. And abblative too.
Is it some kind of noodle-teaching technique?
There is now a "my answer should NOT be accepted" choice for reporting that kind of error.
There have been a few discussions about typos that might not be typing errors in the Latin course.
I don't know if the Latin course contributors/creators have any power yet to implement a change based on that feedback.
However, while I don't want to make assumptions, it seems like using that button is still probably a good idea for those of us in courses like Latin.
Classical Latin had no lower case, spaces or punctuation. Everything was written in what we would call capitals and as a seamless, unbroken line of text. (Scriptio Continua / Continuous Script) Learning Latin this way would be more difficult, so since medieval times we have applied modern linguistic practices to the language. One of these which apply in modern western language like English, French, German, etc... is the capitalization of languages.
Many have pointed out that the declension of the word is the first declension, and, therefore, female gendered. You do, however, bring up an important point. The exact composition of the audience is brought into question. Latin has a way of dealing with this. If the gender of the crowd is unknown, or if it is a mixed gendered audience (there are both men and women), then the gender assigned to the word is masculine, which is the second declension. The proper word, therefore, should be "discipuli" not "discipulae." The other argument would be that you use the original declension instead of this rule if there is ambiguity concerning the gendering of the word. I was taught it the way I explained, but perhaps someone else knows better.
Studio is one of a number of verbs that are normally followed by the dative case. It originally meant something like "I give my attention to" and if you think of it that way the dative makes more sense. (compare credo – I believe in or trust in which is another verb often followed by a dative)
I put this: discipulae student linguae latinae ludo = what did I say, and why is it wrong, please?
I find it really confusing that word order doesn't matter sometimes, and yet at others it does! Also the whole dative, genetive, etc makes my mind glaze over!
(I have no idea what they mean, tbh, but it seems I'm going to have to learn in the near future or give up on Latin for a bit!)
You just forgot the: "in" ludo.
The dative is what we call the "indirect object" in English. The genitive describes something possessed by something, in English we use "of" or " 's " to mark the genitive. Such as "the wife of Mark" or "Mark's wife" For example, "I give you a glass of water." "I" is the nominative, the person being named as doer of the verb. "give" is the verb, the action taking place. "glass" is the accusative case, the thing receiving the action of the verb. "you" is the dative, as you are the indirect object, the indirect receiver of the action of the verb. "of water" is the genitive, as it describing something the glass possesses.
Both English and Latin has a preferred word order. "I am going to the market." in English. While Latin prefers to put verbs at the end "ad foro eo" ( to market I am going).
But you could say:
"To the store, I am going" or "eo ad foro" (I am going to market) and it would still make sense, although it would sound strange to native speakers. But you could not say: "Store going I am to the" or "ad eo foro" (to I am going market) This is because certain chunks of information have to be together and in a certain order to make sense, that applies to all languages, including Latin. For example, just like in English adjectives can not go anywhere. Otherwise statements like the: "The tall man and the old dog" would not make sense. As you would not know if old is describing the dog or the man. Thus the adjective has to be beside whatever word it is describing. But since often a single Latin word contains chunks of information by itself, it appears more flexible. For example "eo" is the equivalent of "I am going" in English. This allows word order to be interchanged more easily without becoming incomprehensible. But this does not mean Latin lacks any order or grammar.
Using "in ludo" would help clarify the correct meaning. As the root word "Ludus" does not directly translate to "school". It's meaning covers a variety of things that English would use multiple different words to express. Like "play", "game" "practice" or "work" as in the case "ludi domestici" = "homework". By adding the preposition "in" it would clarify you are referring to physical location, i.e. a school. But if you wish to avoid using prepositions, you could use "schola" a more direct translation of school" as in: "discipulae schola linguae Latinae student." Although I doubt Duolingo has gotten around to entering all these other possible options yet.
But sometimes a sentence can be so ambiguous as to be incomprehensible, i.e. incomplete sentences. For example an English equivalent "play". I can say: "I am going to play" or "I am going to the play". Just like "ludo", "play" can be a location, verb, gerund etc... depending on the context. However, if I say "I am going play" it is so vague, as to be confusing, there is no way to tell what is meant. Using "ludo" without any context would produce a similar problem. It would be unclear if you mean: "The students study Latin Language at the game", "The students study the Latin language game", "The school students study the Latin language", etc...
In Latin and many other languages, nouns, pronouns, and adjectives have various forms according to their uses in a sentence. The nominative, the case of the subject, is the basic (lexical) form, the form you will find in a dictionary. The other cases, such as dative and accusative, change or "fall away" from the nominative form. The declension of a noun (say) is just the list of all these forms for that particular noun, such as filius, filii, filio, and so on. A declension can also refer to a whole group of nouns (say) with similar forms. Thus filius is said to be of the second declension, while filia is of the first declension. Look up a Latin noun on wiktionary.org and it will show you its declension with all the relevant forms in the various cases.
This is a youtube playlist of everything basic that would be needed to know. And more. Declensions are a grouping and should be utilized along with cases as a whole unit because it's like both time and space. Knowing the ending of the noun you can detter that it is in a certain declension and will help you break it down. Don't ever get deterred from the amount of info there. Patience and practice. Just start with 1 declension and master that to a degree then try another. I'm almost done memorizing them and they are severely helping me understand latin. Hope this helps. Especially if you click the link. My best wishes.