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"Soror in urbe est, mater domi est."
Translation:The sister is in the city; the mother is at home.
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It should accept ‘Sister is in town, mother is at home.’ While generally English does not hide pronoums, in this case it can, in order to refer to a particular set of mother and sister.
Yes, but both translation are accepted, they are translated the same in Latin (unless you really needs to say "the", and you would use a demonstrative)
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yes this should be accepted - it is a normal way to express the location of sister and mother
Your point is well taken, I see what you're saying. The "my" is inferred in this sentence, and we know whose sister is being referenced. Excellent!
Because the standard syntax in Latin is SOV (Subject, Object, Verb), but Soror est in urbe should also be right, because the Latin syntax is very flexible.
I don't think that the English sentence should be displayed with a comma splice. I think the translation requires perhaps a semicolon or a conjunction. Just trying to help.
Comma splice:
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/comma-splice/
So, you would add a "and" in English to translate the Latin?
She is ...., and the other one is....
They say in the article, that we should avoid to use commas to unite two Independent clauses. But it appears to me, as a French user, that's this sentence is rather a figure of speech called parallelism, often used in my language.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallelism_(rhetoric)
One is..., the other is....
This rule of comma splice seems to be controversial, about what is or not a comma splice. Some people label everything as a comma splice, some other analyzes the sentence to spot exceptions.
Someone said:
The "rule" against comma splices only comes into play in fairly formal discourse where joining long phrases or clauses with a comma instead of an explicit conjunction (an and or a conjunctive point) may lead the reader to expect a list.
In speech, in writing which emulates speech, and in many literary contexts the comma splice is perfectly acceptable. Even in formal discourse it is acceptable when the spliced elements are short and the construction is sufficiently distinct from the surrounding text to be understood at first glance.
Why is the "in" only used once? "in urbe est", followed by "domi est". When is it ok to not use "in"?
Domus is special that way. "Domi" = "at home", you don't need (and can't use) "in" with "domi". At least that's what I saw in the discussion of some other sentence.
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En latín hay restos de un caso que se perdió; es el locativo y que indica el lugar "ubi" "en donde" y solo hay tres palabras: domi (en casa), humi (en el suelo) y (ruri, (en el campo). Subsiste también en algunos nombres propios: Matriti (en Madrid) Es parecido al francés 'Chez' moi'. No se dice 'chez ma maison' al menos hasta época reciente.
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You don't normally connect two phrases with only a comma. The translation should allow for the use of "and" or "while."
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In Latin it does not use many conjunctions if they are unnecessary. It is more asindhetic.
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English uses more conjunctions and we are translating into English. Source language rules should never distort the target language.
it should accept " the sister is in the city and the mother is at home." they put it as wrong even though the word and, was the only problem.
I literally said the sister is in the city AND the mother is at home. How is that wrong? We cant use commas so that seems like the most logical way to translate it.
Maybe they translate "town" with "opiddum"?
https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the/latin-word-for-0cd0b19231db9a2b915e37ea2c366c9029cd9020.html
Edit: an admin told me that "town" was about to be added to the answer database. I still don't know if a distinction between oppidum = town, and city = urbs, would be coherent.
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The speaker seems to be swallowing up the t at the end of the est's. It sounds to me like he is saying es.
I put in the correct translation and it said I was wrong? I'm confused. And I checked it 4 times. The answer I put in was right, and the correction said I was wrong when it said the exact same thing I said
It's the second time that I make a mistake on this one... The first part of the sentence is pronounced and I begin to give the answer, then I find out that there would have been another part following. Frustrating.
I would respectfully request that they re-record this sentence with a different speaker, as there is a strong (Non-Latin sounding) accent noticeable here.
should the sister is in the city but the mother is at home be correct, it seems the same as The sister is in the city; the mother is at home.
soror in urbe est mater (dont know what ive typed here) est. error: "you've typed in english" lol xD
I didnt put a semi colon; that is enough to make it incorrect :(
