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Question about the Hebrew Nikud?!

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I recently studied the Hebrew Nikud and I noticed that the "Kamatz אָ" is pronounced by some people as (Ah) and by another people as (Uh)! So should I pronounce it as (Ah) OR (Uh)?

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September 6, 2019

10 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IngeborgHa14

If used in an unstressed closed syllable, it is called Qamatz Qatan [קָמַץ קָטָן] and pronounced [o]: חָכְמָה [khokh-ma] wisdom.

September 6, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shoda_Fayez

Aaah I got it now thanks a lot :) because some people said that it's related to the Ashkenazi Jews (orthodox Jews, religious people...etc) pronounce it as (uh) is that right ?

September 6, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TeribleT

From fluent forever's Hebrew kit (https://blog.fluent-forever.com/learn-modern-hebrew/):

Usage Notes: Vowel Diacritic: "Kamats katan" - Kamats is usually /a/, but sometimes makes an /o/ sound.

For more info see:

https://dictionary.co.il/blog/2016/06/03/great-tips-for-understanding-the-kamatz-katan/

And

http://www.ulpan.net/kamatz-katan

September 6, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shoda_Fayez

Oh thanks a lot for that! They are so beneficial :)

September 6, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MemberOfBigDiam

I think that in modern Hebrew, in general, it's pronounced as "Ah".

September 6, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shoda_Fayez

OK todah rabah :)

September 6, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ihamsa

There are people who pronounce it as Uh (שָלוֹם --- shulem, דָוִד --- Duvid) but it is dialectal. You should not.

September 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dimitrij_

Uh-oh .. :) I think the Uh transliteration you saw in some sources was intended to approximate the sound "ʌ" you'd get in the Am. English duh or uh-huh, and not in the German Uhr or Uhu.

September 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ishay520111

Native speaker here. If you're talking about modern Hebrew, there is no such distinction. As some have mentioned, there are some cases of Kamatz Katan which is pronounced as "o", but in the vast majority of cases, it is an "a" vowel, just like Patach. My suggestion is don't try to compare it to English vowels, because they are too different. You could, however, compare it to vowel pronunciation in other languages, that approximate those of Hebrew more closely, like Spanish for instance. Kamatz Gadol (the normal one) always sounds similar to "a" in Spanish. Now, if you're talking about traditional Ashkenazi, Yemenite etc. pronunciations, that's a whole different story but that's not modern Hebrew and it's not what the course is about.

September 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shoda_Fayez

Oh thank you so much for this explanation :) here is a lingot :)

September 9, 2019
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