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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Beata_Pietraga

Where else is Latin used?

Hi! I'm from Poland. I study here at Duolingo and I am happy to understand languages a bit. Latin is interesting, but it's a dead language.

Where else is Latin used?
In Poland, you can hear Latin in the church.


I want to know Latin, because European languages have a lot of Latin words.

My English is poor. I study for nine months at Duoilingo.
Thank you for Latin and other languages.

September 6, 2019

50 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MikeNolan6

Latin is used in medicine, in biology and in law. Nearly all plant and animal species are named in Latin. One of my favorites is "Mephitis Mephitis", which is the genus and species name for a skunk. Mephitis means 'a bad odor'.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LaCroixRouge141

Question: How would you tell the difference between a wolf and a dog, would you use the genus names canis familiaris and canis lupus ?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TimmyFangs

Lupus is Latin for Wolf. Think of familiaris as having family in it, and a dog is family.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gigach

Technically it should be 'canis lupus familiaris', as dogs and wolves are still very much the same species.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/garpike

Technically, it should be 'Canis lupus familiaris', as a genus is always capitalised.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arda2207

technically this is duolingo and not a professional academic setting, so you dont have to correct anyone


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PERCE_NEIGE

Lupus = wolf.
Canis = dog.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slogger

When Finland held the presidency of the European Union in 1999 and 2006 it issued bulletins in Latin.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Papualaisooppera

Finland has issued Nuntii Latini since 1989! There was also Doctor Ammond who sang Elvis in Latin.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slogger

Yes. IIRC it was the two originators of NL who wrote up the bulletins for the EU. Unfortunately, NL's run ended this June :( after 30 years.

Doctor Ammond! He perhaps may not have sing quite like Elvis, yet was extremely amusing . . . but the last time I looked, several years ago, there was nothing to be found posted online by him, after an appearance in Saint Petersburg, Russia. Do you have any links for his songs?

Now that Nuntii Latini has been retired, the best Latin audio from Scandinavia (or almost anywhere) that I know of is by Daniel Pettersson (latinitium.com, and a Youtube and Patreon channel), although no Elvis AFAIK; Johann Winge seems to be instrumental in republishing some very useful intermediate Latin texts, too, I should mention, but no audio--again, AFAIK, which is only through web browsing.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Papualaisooppera

The only Doctor Ammond record I have is a c-cassette recording made from of a radio broadcast.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slogger

VERY cool that you have a recording! You wouldn't think of posting it online, would you?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Michelle994326

Actually, Johan Winge publishes audio of himself reading several passages from Latin literature on his website (http://alatius.com/latin/).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TimmyFangs

Latin is a language in Vatican City in Rome. I guess it's only for church. But, there are a couple spots where it is still spoken. Most sciences and arts used Latin up until the late 19th century. From Newton's Principia Mathematica to Gauss's Disquisitiones Arithmeticae. So, it's still worth learning. If you learn latin, it helps in learning English and all of the Romance languages, since they derive from latin.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JimKillock

Latin literature is huge of course, particularly from the early modern period, just after the printing press. At that time many novels, tracts, scientific and cultural works were in Latin, if the author wanted a European audience.

In terms of speaking and so on, or listening, there's a very incomplete start of a list here.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Beata_Pietraga

Studendum vero semper et ubique.
(You have to learn always and everywhere.)

Thanks :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jason137255

The Latin you hear in the Catholic Church is slightly different than what Cicero would have been familiar with. The main difference is in pronunciation. The church, headquartered in Italy largely preserved the grammar of Classical Latin but it reflects the sound changes in Italy cerca the fifth century. Basically, they simply assumed that it was pronounced the same way. Hence, C doesn’t have a hard C pronunciation and V shifted into its modern form in the church.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gigach

They still use Latin in the Polish Catholic Church? Most countries seem to use the vernacular nowdays, after the Church immolated over 1000 years of tradition in 'Vatican 2.0'.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Beata_Pietraga

Goodtimes_Gordon
In the church they speak little sentences in Latin. The mass is in Polish.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MacBasse

Maybe you're just not aware of it, but I think every country with considerable presence of Catholic church has https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Mass somewhere in the state.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LaCroixRouge141

Latin was the national language for Poland for a while, they are strongly tied with the catholic church and the most religious country in Europe followed by Romania.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gatiquo

Latin used to be the scholarly language so that all the learned folks could speak to each other.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lars200

Here is a tip: https://la.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicipaedia:Pagina_prima Personally, I also like the Latin version of Google Translate because it uses the traditional Italian pronunciation (and not the reconstructed classical pronunciation taught here).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PERCE_NEIGE

Yes, but Google: don't use it to translate or to learn.

I'm happy, because unlike the Duo course, they translate names on the Latin wikipedia, Iacobus Chirac, héhé, sometimes they even say Iacobus Chiracus! Should be "Carius" not "Chiracus" but they way.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WulfgarGoodread

Latin is a language that we use to try to impress one another.

I seem to recall reading that Latin was the official language of the court of the Kingdom of Poland (and maybe the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/karasu4

We have access to enormous amounts of Latin literature, from the time of the Roman Republic, all the way to the enlightement and modern times. Reading a work such as Virgil's Aeneid in Latin is a literary experience that beats any translation a 100 times. It is incredible to experience how the ancient authors were able to exploit the grammar and the sounds of the Latin language, to make it into a vehicle for expression that is far superior to most other languages in that respect. Reading Latin literature in the original language opens up a world of new understanding and perspectives on language, history, literature and mythology. I learned Latin only for the sake of reading Classical Literature, and it was worth every second.

If you want to have a look, a good deal of Latin literature has been collected here, to be read online: http://www.thelatinlibrary.com


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Beata_Pietraga

It is very interesting !
Thank you very much!
Lingot for you :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DragonPolyglot

Honestly, most of the Latin used today is used in the church and maybe in certain universities. But, because the Internet makes everything easier, there are ways to practice Latin by reading books and even listening to music. The place that probably has the most use of Latin is Vatican City. Latin is an official language of the Vatican, they even have an ATM machine that uses Latin as the interface language. (that last part both fascinates me and makes me chuckle in glee... Latin might be dead, but it's not extinct!)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/garpike

(Apparently the machine in question.)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/vytah

And of course it's in Comic Sans.

It's a nice juxtaposition: a language often thought as serious and sage vs a font that it though as silly and ugly.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PERCE_NEIGE

How a font could be silly?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Beata_Pietraga

Really?? ATM machine that uses Latin as the interface language?
I have to go to the Vatican. I haven't been to the Vatican yet.

Thank you very much. Great message !
Lingot for you :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slogger

Many drugstores of a U.S. national chain--I forget which one--used to have Latin on the doors . . . well, "TUO", anyway, which was actually "OUT" seen through the back of the glass. ;)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PERCE_NEIGE

It's the official language, everything is in Latin.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Rp6jfp20

It was the lingua franca of the enlightenment so people from everywhere could communicate but its not as precise as a lot of languages. There aren’t words to express certain things in Latin. And in ancient times, a lot of Romans spoke ancient Greek because they could express themselves better in ancient Greek than Latin.

Today, historians, classicists, and classical archaeologists need Latin and it useful for ordinary people to know as western civilization is greatly based on the Roman world. So you can understand today's world better if you read the old writings. You would surprised on how cicero’s arguments of government can relate to many countries today.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Beata_Pietraga

Cyceron:

Usus magister est optimus.
Salus publica suprema lex esto.

and

Praeterita mutare non possumus.

Cicero's sentence teach us at school :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PERCE_NEIGE

Now, is it English or Esperanto? Or another one?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PERCE_NEIGE

Latin is completely dead in France (government wish), or almost. All the money and the resources are taken from the Latin teachers and the Latin classroom. So, don't count on France.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DjaildoQuaresma

Sad to hear that. I fear soon they'll be financing Arabic courses.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dojaduolingo

Caesar's Legion in the Mojave Wasteland I suppose ;)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sean52990

There is a cartoon in Latin in today's Daily Telegraph (an English newspaper) about the Prime Minister returning to work after being ill with Covid-19. Here is a link: https://www.pressreader.com/@nickname15975033/csb_JpPCdSAbnKdxhU-f5lgLLMOMT9kktXqWWbCwaOfzD5vymwN6oqXNhL_tUaGLG1grRa-h1cyqPB9b96dvf_nuiw


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JimKillock

To be fair, Lidl are a major user of Latin for cheap alcohol brands.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PERCE_NEIGE

I don't see the brands.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hydrntc

It's spoken in Vatican City sometimes.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Poligloto7

If you want some latin music, look for gregorian chants, podcast in latin here's one: https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2019-06/latin-news-vatican-radio-hebdomada-papae.html

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