https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JimKillock

CHALLENGE: Get me a perfect Latin translation out of GoogleTranslate and I will give you 10 lingots

Deadline: Sunday 8 September 3pm BST

First to post an example of an English text of at last 30 words that returns a perfect Latin translation wins.

It can be done. Can you work out how?

EDIT: bicolingo won and got 10 lingots.

September 7, 2019

23 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bicolingo

Type the same word 30 times and you might have a chance :-)

It really sucks badly, doesn't it? I've been pretty surprised by the quality of Google translate with other languages, but the Latin is abysmal.

September 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JimKillock

It can be done! Without 'cheating' as you suggest.

September 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bicolingo

The Lord's Prayer comes close, but it translates debita rather too literally as debts.

September 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JimKillock

You are on the right lines. Why would the Lord's Prayer work? And if your version is close, what gets you a better version?

September 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bicolingo

Yes, I see what you're getting at. The official contemporary Catholic version of the Lord's Prayer in English works:

"Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Your Kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as in heaven Give us today our daily bread. Forgive us our sins, as we forgive those who sin against us. Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil."

September 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/karasu4

GT doesn't always translate. Sometimes it finds the translations online, and presents it as its own work. For some reason it rarely does this with entire texts, only passages.

September 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JimKillock

I'm not sure: see my answer below, and try it out.

September 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JimKillock

So I've given the two people here both 10 lingots as they had both found a way to do it.

How to do it:

Try some text from the Douay-Rheims translation of the Vulgate

I'm finding today it is tending to slide in extra words, which is annoying. At random however, I found that:

Except the Lord of hosts had left us seed, we had been as Sodom, and we should have been like to Gomorrha. GoogleTranslate

returns

Nisi Dominus exercituum reliquisset nobis semen, quasi Sodoma fuissemus, et quasi Gomorrha similes essemus.

– which is an exact translation.

Why is this? As others have mentioned, there are core texts Google trains on. The Bible is central to this in most Google Translate versions. As a result you can usually get it to spit out perfect Latin – so long as it's text from the Bible.

September 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bicolingo

"...I've given the two people here both 10 lingots as they had both found a way to do it."

Actually, they were both me, so I'm giving 10 back :)

September 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Beata_Pietraga

bicolingo
You are honest. Lingot for you ;)

September 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bicolingo

Mihi nomen est Marcus. Ego Romae habito. Roma in Italia est. Ego discipulus est. Ego linguas disco. Frater meus quoque discipulus est. Soror mea in urbe laborat. Illa duo filii habet.

September 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bicolingo

I originally put in the last sentence : Illa in ludo laborat and it was translated as "she works in the game" ! :-)

September 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JimKillock

Well, your chunk of text does work so you win. It wasn't what I had in mind, so I will explain in a moment.

September 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JimKillock

What was the English you inputted?

September 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bicolingo

Oh, I'm sorry, you meant English to Latin translation? I misunderstood the top post.

September 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ArtyomYabloko

It translated this poem I wrote perfectly:

odi et amo. Quare id faciam fortasse requiris. Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior.

not quite 30 words, but can I still have those lingots?

September 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JimKillock

I hope this doesn't sound mean but I did say "first to post". I'll give you three as it's interesting it manages Catallus as well.

September 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ArtyomYabloko

brother please don't hold out on the rest of the lingots it took me ages to write this poem, I had to do scansion and iambic hexameter and travel back in time to ancient rome and become catullus and fall in love with lesbia and have my heart broken just to write this poem then travel back to the future to put it into google translate and see if it worked

September 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JimKillock

haha! it sounds very painful. I'm not sure Lingots are going to help you much.

Have you thought of Hortus Lidl Gin?

September 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ArtyomYabloko

frater, trade mihi lingotti

September 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JimKillock

lingōtiī nōn sunt bonī, sunt inūtiliī et obtūsī

September 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JimKillock

Nōs servī Bubōnis DuaeLinguae qui in Lingōtēs solūti erunt, nōs exspectamus capere lībertātēs nostrōs, per ¯M lingōtī.

September 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ArtyomYabloko

di immortales jimkollock, cur te scelestus??

September 8, 2019
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