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Doubts with the dialect.

I got a doubt recently that has been going around in my head, it's about the Norwegian dialect that we learn here in Duolingo, do you know which one is?

September 8, 2019

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Deliciae
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You're learning Bokmål, which is one of the written standards of Norwegian.

The voice you're hearing is a TTS which is modeled on what we'd refer to as standard østnorsk. Norwegian does not have any official standardized pronunciation, but standard østnorsk is as close as you'll get. It resembles many of the Eastern dialects spoken in and around the capital, and is a way of speaking that's easily understandable and lies close to written Bokmål. If we go back a few decades, this is what all the newscasters would speak.

For more information:

https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/9169298
https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_%C3%B8stnorsk

September 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sdcch

Thank you so much for taking the time to write this, and thank you so much for the information; my doubt began when I heard the singer Gabrielle and realized that she said "eg" instead of "jeg", she pronounced "deg" like /deg/ instead of /dai/ and made the /r/ sounds more like those of French, Would you know where that accent is from?

September 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Deliciae
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Bare hyggelig!

Yes, she's from Bergen. The Bergen dialect is pretty distinct and easily recognizable both because of the skarre-r you mentioned and the lack of a feminine gender. Saying "eg" and "deg" is common in western Norway, so you'll hear that in a number of dialects from that region.

https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergensk_dialekt

September 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sdcch

Wow, this of the Norwegian dialects is quite interesting, I think there are several of them by the geography of the country; by the way, how many dialects do you know and speak?

September 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/THason

From a Norwegian native - I understand all of the Norwegian dialects (and I did not when I was young) but I can speak only one of them - my own. Some people can pick up and speak other dialects fairly well, and I know a few people with this ability, but this is in my experience rare.

September 9, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Deliciae
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I speak a mix of two dialects, and while I can move across the spectrum of those two, I would not feel comfortable imitating other dialects.

Understanding other dialects is rarely an issue for me. Yes, I'll encounter the odd unfamiliar word, but it's usually in a context, which will make it easier to guess.

It helps that I've moved around a lot: I was born in Oslo (Eastern Norway), and have since lived in Ås (Eastern Norway), Stokmarknes (Northern Norway), Trondheim (Central Norway), Bergen (Western Norway) and Stavanger (Western Norway).

September 12, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jack-Gyro

Those are the common pronunciations of the dialects that use Nynorsk as their backing and written language. An exception to this is the Stavanger dialect, in which that area has something called "diglossia"- where they write in Bokmål, but talk within the Nynorsk archetype.

September 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Tembo441

Learning "standard" Bokmål gives you the greatest chance of being understood anywhere in Norway - for some areas, you'd find that you have to speak fairly slowly even if you're fluent.

Even those people who speak Nynorsk will generally understand you, and these days even most of the Sami people will speak at least a little Bokmål. Although, if you're planning on spending time with the Kven people, you'd be better off learning Finnish.

September 8, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Adrian442793

There are many, many more resources for learning Bokmål. That said, there are coursebooks and grammar books for Nynorsk, and many people do set out to learn Nynorsk instead.

It depends partly on your motivation for studying Norwegian. For instance, if your grandparents spoke a particular dialect, you might want to focus on that.

September 8, 2019
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