Ukrainian for russian speakers
This post is addressed to people how are natives to both russian and ukrainian languages. I know that this the case for many of Ukraine citizens. Guys, please consider creating a course teaching ukrainian for russian speakers.
I am a native russian speaker myself and I'd really like to learn your language. Social life in Ukraine is absolutely fascinating these days and I'd really like to be able to read the news from your country.
If you agree that such a course would be much appriciated please upvote.
I'm neither interested in learning Russian nor Ukrainian right now, but I absolutely support your idea. DuoLingo would show a great sign of equality once again and it would really help the people in both countries. I guess they will implement other languages like Norwegian or Esperanto first, though.
I think as far as non-English courses go, Ukrainian/Russian and Russian/Ukrainian should be among the priorities, considering how intermixed their lingual cultures are.
This isn't a perfect solution, but there's an English for speakers of Ukrainian course in development already, which means that Ukrainian for English will have a fair chance of being up next. You might be able to put your English skills to use to learn. (I have no idea if any of the developers of either that course, or the Russian course are also fluent in the other language to be able to create an additional course going directly between the two.)
English for speakers of Ukrainian course is in the phase 1 in the incubator and has a long way to go. Even if the same team will eventually start Ukrainian for english speakers, I doubt it will be released before 2016. So it would be really nice to gather another team dedicated to this course.
They're predicted to be in beta around the end of July 2014. The way the incubator works, the same team is responsible for both directions for a pair of languages. Once they get one course into beta, its reverse is set up in phase 1. According to the people who work on the incubator, they can reuse about 50% of the work they already did, plus they learn how to get the work done better over time, so the 2nd course tends to move faster than the first.
There's no guarantee, but it doesn't seem outrageous to think that they may have English -> Ukrainian in beta by the end of 2014 if things move smoothly. (You could try to learn a little from Ukrainian -> English, since I've heard of some people on the forums doing similar things, but I'd imagine it's tough to get very far that way.)
You might even want to go to a site like memrise.com or set up a deck in Anki to start learning some basic vocabulary, so you'll be able to move faster through the lessons down the line when a class is ready.
I'm not trying to say that a Russian -> Ukrainian class wouldn't be a great thing. I hope that it happens very soon. I just wanted to suggest other options because right now we have no idea if anyone's applied to make that class and no idea how long the Duolingo team would hold off on setting it up even if they did get great applications (they only add a few languages at a time, because the incubator itself is still a work in progress and they're not yet at the point where they're comfortable adding additional courses very quickly.)
As for "these days", I really hope that agenda fades away before a course like this happens to get released. Note that I don't claim the prospective course to be superfluous, it would be wonderful to have it on Duolingo and, most likely, it will eventually appear. I just question the motivation.
As for Putin's aggression against Ukraine, I do believe it we will be over in a few months and as you said long before the course could be released. But this is not the only thing that makes Ukraine interesting. I admire their civic movements that made pro-european course possible.
Shchiro dyakuyu // Thanks a lot! Still, it can take a while to have the course incubated, released, troubleshot and taken by you, which means trying you wings in Ukrainian is being postponed even further. In the meantime I highly recommend reading more Ukrainian texts, perhaps using a dictionary. Since Russian is your mother tongue, it promises to be way easier for you than for anglo-, hispano- and lusophones I know, and they all succeeded :)
As I observe from the online language learning community, the half or even more of the Ukrainian language learners are Russians. Should be a good idea.
Is there a difference between Spanish and Portuguese? Or between French and Italian? Answer my questions and you'll automatically answer yours =)
So what? Similar is not identical. Similar is still foreign. Besides, there is a Spanish course for Portuguese speakers, and vice versa as well, yet I don't see anyone complaining.
I'm a native English speaker and learned Spanish years ago. My wife's family speaks Ukranian and I would like to learn it. I am currently studying Russian since I've independently had an interest in it for years. Once I know Russian I'd like to study Ukranian from a Russian source; I figure that way I could better study the differences. Therefore I hope that Duolingo course is available when I'm ready for it.