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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CarlosLM.

Tree "finished" at Crown Level 3. Highlights.

This is the first time I'm studying Latin seriously, and I think Latin is really fun. I started without reading any grammar, as an experiment if I was able to do the whole course without any extra help, but at some point I felt that I was needing to figure out too many things, and other things I was simply learning them "by heart". So I read all the Duolingo tips and notes, and I started to work the exercises along with the Wiktionary and this declension table (https://www.tes.com/en-ie/teaching-resource/latin-noun-declensions-1-5-wjce-gcse-latin-language-nouns-11246967), to know at every moment the function of every word in a sentence, and its particular declension or conjugation. This is a big exercise in patience, as sometimes you will think you know a part of a grammar table just because you're using your short term memory, but the real learning comes with some spaced repetition after some weeks (or maybe months.) Furthermore, my real goal it's to gain some fluidity reading and writing Latin (at an intermediate level), so I need even more practice to internalize all the grammar knowledge, to be able to understand simple Latin texts without thinking in grammar, or write what I want directly without having to analyse too much.

Now I'm very happy, because after getting the Level 3 in the whole tree, I feel that I start to remember most of what it was taught (For example, using an alt account I could get the Latin Owl doing the 2 necessary test-outs, and I only failed one question.) And I also feel that I've gotten a first level of "fluidity", well, if I restrict myself to the Latin words taught so far. :-D

So to celebrate, I made a general revision of what I think are the main points taught by Duolingo so far. Almost all is off the top of my head. I only edited to add some bits which were important for me. Can you fill in the gaps? What do you think of the Latin course so far?

P.S1. For now I'm done, however I'll keep plowing until Crown Level 5, as I think it's important to keep revising so as not to lose my current initial level. Hopefully, a new update of this amazing Latin tree will come soon, before I run out of exercises to do. :-)

P.S2. FYI I almost always type my Duolingo exercises, and try not to use the Word Bank (of course, I hover on words if I need it.) I mainly use the Word Bank to figure out words in the dictation exercises, but at higher Crown Levels sometimes you won't have it, so it's very important to get used to the contributor pronunciation of Latin words. And I wouldn't be too perfectionist about little mistakes in audio due to the influence of the native language. My tip is to just report silently if you think that parts of the audio were clearly mispronounced, and move on.


What you will learn

  • 3 first declensions, cases: Nominative, Accusative, Ablative (singular), a bit of locative (for city names), a bit of vocative (for first names)
  • Only present tense, indicative + a bit of Imperative (Da mihi, Noli/nolite + )
  • Modal verbs: soleo, volo, velim, possum, debeo...
  • Special verbs: loquor (deponent), placet/placent.
  • Question words: Quo, unde, quomodo, quid, quis, ubi.
  • Possessive adjectives and pronouns: ego, tu, nos, vos, me, mihi, te, tibi, nobis, vobis, meus, tuus, noster, voster, etc.
  • Time expressions: post/ante (tertiam horam), noctu, interdiu, vesperi, mane, sero, semper, saepe, cotidie...
  • Some mithology: Iuppiter, Mars, Minerva, Bacchus.
  • Roman places: forum, balneum, via, platea, templum, villa (atrium, lararium, cenaculum, cubiculum, culina, latrina, tablinum.)
  • Animals: psittacus(-i), bubo(-nes) [here is our Owl xD], canis(-es), mus(-res).

What you will not learn (at the moment)

  • Macrons.
  • 4th, 5th declensions.
  • Genitive, dative cases.
  • Almost all verb tenses.
  • Complex sentences.

Is it recommendable?

  • Yes, totally. It's fun, but maybe it would be even better to wait for a more complete tree.
September 11, 2019

22 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Robert-Alexan

Hi, congrats, That's a great achievement. Let me add some things here, that may be interesting for you and other learners:

  1. and a bit of subjunctive ... if you missed that
  2. well, and there's a pinch of dative too <-- pronouns do have cases, too
  3. you meant to say modal verbs :-)
  4. btw: volo and velim is the same verb (which also refers back to the aforementioned #1).

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CarlosLM.

Thanks for your so interesting comment, and for the congrats! ;-)) OK, I'll go step by step:

  1. and 4. Yes, at some point I learnt that "velim" is the present subjunctive of the "volo" verb. Are there more subjunctive bits I missed?
  2. Yes, I think I didn't mention it. And "nummis" is in the ablative plural, and the verb "appropinquo" demands the "dative", so you had "deae" in one exercise.
  3. Yes, I think "modal verbs" is a better denomination than "auxiliary verbs", thanks for the correction. However, I think "sum" could be considered as an "auxiliary" verb, as it's needed to complete some conjugations.

Now let's hope that the dative and genitive are treated in depth in the next tree update. And about the 4th, 5th declensions, are really that many words in Latin which belonged to them? There was "meridies", but it's really hard to learn a whole declension with only 1 or 2 examples.

Of course, I'm looking also forward to new verb tenses. To get exercises using either the imperfect or future would be nice, but I'm not a contributor, so at the end of the day, any new skills will be welcomed! :-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Elin.7-1

Congrats

Modal verbs and Auxilliary verbs are completely different.

Auxilliairy verbs are the present tense for of (usually) to be or to have which when combined with a participle creat a past tense (usually perfect in Romance languages).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CarlosLM.

Right, I was tired and I didn't use the term "auxiliary verb" correctly. Hopefully I didn't commit more big mistakes with the grammar denominations! ;-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CarlosLM.

@Robert-AlexanPLUS

By the way, congrats for your 1000-day streak! That's dedication! ;-D


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/buck72

Congrats on the Latin course. Thanks for writing an interesting post about Latin, I enjoyed reading it. ALFY. :) Chris


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CarlosLM.

@buck72

By the way, is ALFY some kind of Latin abbreviation? What does it mean? :-/


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/buck72

A Lingot For You. :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CarlosLM.

I thought it might be something related to ALF, the old American sitcom, which stands for Alien Life Form xDDD

I need to learn some Duolingo jargon! :-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CarlosLM.

Thanks for your kind words! :-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DavidPNash

There's also a touch of dative in the "School" section (with "studere"), and a little explanation would have been nice -- nothing huge, just something along the lines of "some verbs' objects get a different case, which we'll cover in more detail later". I remember being briefly confused when "studere" + accusative kept getting marked as "You have a typo."


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CarlosLM.

Yes, I agree, without some Wiktionary work, I wouldn't know that "studeo" is usually used with the dative.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Robert-Alexan

appropinquare in later levels also commands the dative


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CarlosLM.

I had told you that. "Appropinquo" and "appropinquare" are the same verb.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Robert-Alexan

True. My fault :-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LordEragon05

Congratulations here is a lingot.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MacBasse

Ave, thank you for your great post. May I ask, out of curiosity, what is your native language?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CarlosLM.

Of course. My native language is Spanish, and I come from Spain.

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